Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

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Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:17 pm

I don't know why some people here and elsewhere insist he was bluffing of hyping himself up. He is a skilled fighter and has good battle sense, so I doubt he was just plain wrong about how strong he was. And as for lying, why? What would he gain? Scaring Gohan some more? Maybe, but the simpler answer is that he really was about to blow away the solar system. Some people deny it because of a lack of "feats". But Dragonball in general has almost none of this. Goku and Freeza in Ressurection "F" looked to me like they were punching each other about as hard and fast as they were on Namek. If I go on "feats" should I conclude that neither of them have actually gotten stronger and both are just bluffing or lying? Of course not. So why give Cell such a hard time about that statement? Honestly, is it even so strange for a fictional supervillian from a series known for ridiculous OPness to be able to destroy a fictional solar system of unknown size?

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He didnt do it and then he lost......
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Re: Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:20 pm

If Cell was talking about an explosion wave, I could buy him being able to destroy a Solar System. The thing is, the Kamehameha is a linear, guided blast that only goes in one direction: forward. So unless Cell made it spin over and over and over until it annihilated everything or directed that thing into the sun, I fail to see how him just firing it at Gohan could cause such devastation.
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Re: Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:22 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:He didnt do it and then he lost......
Because Gohan's blast knocked it back. It's the same reason Vegeta's Garlic Ho didn't destroy the Earth. Goku bounced it back.

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Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:23 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:If Cell was talking about an explosion wave, I could buy him being able to destroy a Solar System. The thing is, the Kamehameha is a linear, guided blast that only goes in one direction: forward. So unless Cell made it spin over and over and over until it annihilated everything or directed that thing into the sun, I fail to see how him just firing it at Gohan could cause such devastation.
It would hit the Earth and then explode out in a sphere that would engulf the Solar System

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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:25 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:If Cell was talking about an explosion wave, I could buy him being able to destroy a Solar System. The thing is, the Kamehameha is a linear, guided blast that only goes in one direction: forward. So unless Cell made it spin over and over and over until it annihilated everything or directed that thing into the sun, I fail to see how him just firing it at Gohan could cause such devastation.
I have to agree with this.....best logic I've seen from a DBZ fan.
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Re: Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

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RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:If Cell was talking about an explosion wave, I could buy him being able to destroy a Solar System. The thing is, the Kamehameha is a linear, guided blast that only goes in one direction: forward. So unless Cell made it spin over and over and over until it annihilated everything or directed that thing into the sun, I fail to see how him just firing it at Gohan could cause such devastation.
It would hit the Earth and then explode out in a sphere that would engulf the Solar System
Along with himself?
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RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:If Cell was talking about an explosion wave, I could buy him being able to destroy a Solar System. The thing is, the Kamehameha is a linear, guided blast that only goes in one direction: forward. So unless Cell made it spin over and over and over until it annihilated everything or directed that thing into the sun, I fail to see how him just firing it at Gohan could cause such devastation.
It would hit the Earth and then explode out in a sphere that would engulf the Solar System
Then he would kill himself.....
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Re: Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

Post by Cetra » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:30 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:If Cell was talking about an explosion wave, I could buy him being able to destroy a Solar System. The thing is, the Kamehameha is a linear, guided blast that only goes in one direction: forward. So unless Cell made it spin over and over and over until it annihilated everything or directed that thing into the sun, I fail to see how him just firing it at Gohan could cause such devastation.
Technically he could still have that power in his Kamehameha, even if he did use the wrong blast for the destruction . As far as his power per se goes I do not doubt he can.
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Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:33 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote: Along with himself?
He would quickly teleport away to safety.

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Re: Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:34 pm

Cetra wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:If Cell was talking about an explosion wave, I could buy him being able to destroy a Solar System. The thing is, the Kamehameha is a linear, guided blast that only goes in one direction: forward. So unless Cell made it spin over and over and over until it annihilated everything or directed that thing into the sun, I fail to see how him just firing it at Gohan could cause such devastation.
Technically it could still have that power in his Kamehameha, even if he did use it wrong blast. As far as his power per se goes I do not doubt he can.
It would definitely have the power but yeah, its the wrong type of blast to use if 360 degree type destruction is what you're aiming to do. Unless he was also aiming that sucker at the sun which is quite possible too.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:35 pm

RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote: Along with himself?
He would quickly teleport away to safety.
To where? He would have to sense someone to teleport to, and he doesn't know where to look. And we all know what happened when Goku tried to teleport out of the way of a large explosion. He couldn't do it.
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Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:38 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote: Along with himself?
He would quickly teleport away to safety.
To where? He would have to sense someone to teleport to, and he doesn't know where to look. And we all know what happened when Goku tried to teleport out of the way of a large explosion. He couldn't do it.
Anywhere outside the Solar System would work. He'd probably just go back to Kaio

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Post by Cetra » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:41 pm

Better question is why didn't he use an IT Kamehameha in the first place. Dumb arrogance .
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RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote: Anywhere outside the Solar System would work. He'd probably just go back to Kaio
Kaio was dead. Instant Transmission doesn't just let people teleport at will; they need to lock on to something to anchor them. And it requires total concentration. How's Cell gonna do that with the equivalent of a supernova in his face, when Buu Arc Goku couldn't do it?
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Re: Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:45 pm

Cetra wrote:Better question is why didn't he use an IT Kamehameha in the first place. Dumb arrogance .
He's a Shonen Jump Villain, he must make things climatic. But if he did do a IT Kamehameha, the Solar System would be destroyed.

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Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:47 pm

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RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote: Anywhere outside the Solar System would work. He'd probably just go back to Kaio
Kaio was dead. Instant Transmission doesn't just let people teleport at will; they need to lock on to something to anchor them. And it requires total concentration. How's Cell gonna do that with the equivalent of a supernova in his face, when Buu Arc Goku couldn't do it?
Goku was surprised. Cell probably had a lock on whatever he was teleporting to before charging his attack. He would have been ready to go.

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Re: Why can't people accept Cell's Solar Kamehameha

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:48 pm

RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:
Cetra wrote:Better question is why didn't he use an IT Kamehameha in the first place. Dumb arrogance .
He's a Shonen Jump Villain, he must make things climatic. But if he did do a IT Kamehameha, the Solar System would be destroyed.
If he aimed it at the sun or guided it around like Goku did against Raditz, him just firing it at Gohan in one direction wouldn't automatically make every planet, moon, star and the sun just explodes from it merely existing.
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RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:
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RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote: Anywhere outside the Solar System would work. He'd probably just go back to Kaio
Kaio was dead. Instant Transmission doesn't just let people teleport at will; they need to lock on to something to anchor them. And it requires total concentration. How's Cell gonna do that with the equivalent of a supernova in his face, when Buu Arc Goku couldn't do it?
Goku was surprised. Cell probably had a lock on whatever he was teleporting to before charging his attack. He would have been ready to go.
Show me where Cell indicates that he has locked on to anything?

Goku wasn't surprised, he saw the blast coming, and had time to grab Mr. Satan and Dende. He just couldn't concentrate.
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