DragonBall Z Abridged

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:06 pm

What about Movie 7?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by KaiserNeko » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:15 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:What about Movie 7?
That'll be soon. Not sure when exactly, but soon!
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Looking forward to it!
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by ShadowDude112 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:02 am

coola wrote:I'm also looking forward for Janemba movie, i wonder if it still be done together with TGWTG/Channel Awesome?
Why would you want it to? TGWTG/Channel Awesome is awful. The site is awful and the people on the site are terrible.
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by KaiserNeko » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:55 am

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coola wrote:I'm also looking forward for Janemba movie, i wonder if it still be done together with TGWTG/Channel Awesome?
Why would you want it to? TGWTG/Channel Awesome is awful. The site is awful and the people on the site are terrible.
Um, a couple of the people who work on that site are actually friends of ours...
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ShadowDude112 wrote:
coola wrote:I'm also looking forward for Janemba movie, i wonder if it still be done together with TGWTG/Channel Awesome?
Why would you want it to? TGWTG/Channel Awesome is awful. The site is awful and the people on the site are terrible.
Um, a couple of the people who work on that site are actually friends of ours...
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TonyTheTiger wrote:Broly would be much funnier being kept as-is. Let everyone else react to him.
Yes this.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by ShadowDude112 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:34 pm

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ShadowDude112 wrote:
coola wrote:I'm also looking forward for Janemba movie, i wonder if it still be done together with TGWTG/Channel Awesome?
Why would you want it to? TGWTG/Channel Awesome is awful. The site is awful and the people on the site are terrible.
Um, a couple of the people who work on that site are actually friends of ours...
I never got an e-mail that there was a response to this.

But are you telling me Linkara is not an awful person? Someone who complained because people were using adblock on his videos and he wasn't getting money? If that's your main source of income, you should really re-evaluate. Then, he complained about people asking when new episodes of History of Power Rangers was coming, something that everyone did. Something that was so asinine, Rocco from Mega64 made fun of him for it. He also doesn't do a good job of describing comics. It feels like he just reads a summary on Wikipedia. When I saw Linkara in the Moustache video, I almost threw up in my mouth.

Doug just doesn't know what he's doing. He just yells into a camera because he thinks people will find it funny. Not to mention he just lost his touch and doesn't know what to do anymore. He should have stopped NC, but only brought it back because he needed money instead of doing something better.

Yes, they helped you when Youtube took you guys down, but come on, Kaiser. Those are only two people I mentioned. I can't think of a single person, other that Josh and Ryan who do BGP, that make good content on that channel and is actually a decent person.
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Mewzard » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:02 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:I never got an e-mail that there was a response to this.

But are you telling me Linkara is not an awful person? Someone who complained because people were using adblock on his videos and he wasn't getting money? If that's your main source of income, you should really re-evaluate. Then, he complained about people asking when new episodes of History of Power Rangers was coming, something that everyone did. Something that was so asinine, Rocco from Mega64 made fun of him for it. He also doesn't do a good job of describing comics. It feels like he just reads a summary on Wikipedia. When I saw Linkara in the Moustache video, I almost threw up in my mouth.

Doug just doesn't know what he's doing. He just yells into a camera because he thinks people will find it funny. Not to mention he just lost his touch and doesn't know what to do anymore. He should have stopped NC, but only brought it back because he needed money instead of doing something better.

Yes, they helped you when Youtube took you guys down, but come on, Kaiser. Those are only two people I mentioned. I can't think of a single person, other that Josh and Ryan who do BGP, that make good content on that channel and is actually a decent person.
As a person who has talked with and Podcasted with Lewis Lovhaug several times, I would say he's actually a good man. He's been nothing but a standup guy from my experiences with him, and I really don't appreciate the insults against him. What's wrong with him wanting to live on the work he does? If he can, more power to him. Team Four Star also is making money off of some of their work via ads in LPs and Patreon, would you complain about them as well? Both they and Lewis have equal rights to do so.

You can argue asinine if you want, but he was probably getting a ton of e-mails at the time since his first videos in the HoPR series were coming out rapid fire, only to slow as he reached the point where he hadn't seen the shows any more. Not even an issue anymore, as he scheduled out the last several, and is one away from being caught up.

As for the AT4W reviews...that's a matter of personal opinion. I (and many others) like them, you (and many others) don't. Nothing wrong with that. Taste is subjective.

In the end, you can hate the site and its content all you want, it's a free country. But you don't have to be rude to people and disrespect them because of it by calling them terrible people.

Try showing some level of civility and respect, and don't let your hate for something boil over to this extreme. It's not cool.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by KaiserNeko » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:09 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:I never got an e-mail that there was a response to this.

But are you telling me Linkara is not an awful person? Someone who complained because people were using adblock on his videos and he wasn't getting money? If that's your main source of income, you should really re-evaluate. Then, he complained about people asking when new episodes of History of Power Rangers was coming, something that everyone did. Something that was so asinine, Rocco from Mega64 made fun of him for it. He also doesn't do a good job of describing comics. It feels like he just reads a summary on Wikipedia. When I saw Linkara in the Moustache video, I almost threw up in my mouth.

Doug just doesn't know what he's doing. He just yells into a camera because he thinks people will find it funny. Not to mention he just lost his touch and doesn't know what to do anymore. He should have stopped NC, but only brought it back because he needed money instead of doing something better.

Yes, they helped you when Youtube took you guys down, but come on, Kaiser. Those are only two people I mentioned. I can't think of a single person, other that Josh and Ryan who do BGP, that make good content on that channel and is actually a decent person.
How... are any of these people awful?

Linkara is a friendly, very upright person. He's there for his friends, he's very personable, he's a hard worker who's dedicated to his fanbase and his craft. Yeah, he's a dork, who's overly opinionated, gets too caught up in the little things, and more often than not his complaining about complainers is hardly beneficial, but I of all people know what it's like to have a ravenous fanbase breathing down your neck. Sometimes... you just want to tell people that it's not appropriate to be so impatient and downright entitled. He could be better composed, but I don't think he's an idiot, I don't think he's a bad person, and I'm pretty sure anybody on this forum has had similar lapses in judgment. We're not perfect.

Also, if you don't enjoy his comic book reviews, that's fine. But I know he does a lot of research on the topics he cares about and he's grown a fanbase of people who enjoy the way he runs his show. You don't have to like it, but don't start calling him "awful" and insulting the man because you don't find his work to your satisfaction. You don't even know the man. I repeat, for emphasis:

You. Do not. Know the man. Internet rumors and /co/ bullshit amount to nothing.

Also, criticizing someone for utilizing a system to make money, then relying on their work and content that they produce to make said money, and then being frustrated by people who continuously cheat the system-- and thus them out of said money-- is just flat-out victim blaming. You'd rather he be cheated out of his money and suck it up. Truth be told? We're all struggling to make money, and anyone utilizing a system to be paid for the work they do deserves to have the system be used appropriately and then paid as per the arrangement.

Doug doesn't know what he's doing? Well, considering he's made more than enough money to quit his job, buy a house, and start a career off of his work, maybe that's not an entirely true statement. I'll admit, his first venture into a new series tanked, but at least he put himself out there and tried something new. Furthermore, his return to form integrated a ton of new ideas that he'd pulled from that venture, which ultimately enhanced and expanded the format he'd been using before to make it even more enjoyable than ever.

He's also been incredibly friendly with all of us, cameo'd when asked, has (to our knowledge) treated everyone else on the site with respect and appreciation, and while I can't speak too much for him personally, I've never gotten the impression that he is not a "decent person". I'm totally sure, however, that you've met him, talked with him, and made your own personal assessments. Same with the rest of the ChannelAwesome folk... Right? Otherwise, I mean, trying to go out of your way to call him awful and bash him and everyone else on that site would be totally inappropriate.

I don't have many bad things to say about a lot of folks on that site. I don't personally know a lot of them and I'm pretty sure you know them even less than I do. So while I might not find most of their content enjoyable, I don't think any less of them as people. We're all flawed and tragically human. Some of us just are more successful than others.

Look, to be frank: Your idea of what makes a person "awful" is really shallow and short sighted, in my personal opinion. These people work hard on their content, and while it may not be to your satisfaction, it's what they enjoy doing and have grown fanbases for. You don't have to enjoy it, but belittling them and bashing them completely degrades the concept of art in the first place. I'd suggest giving this a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67EKAIY43kg It talks about how dismissing and bashing someone's creative work, even though it might lack mastery and polish, is often a mistake because it completely misses the actual value of said art and the purpose behind it's creation.
Mewzard wrote:As a person who has talked with and Podcasted with Lewis Lovhaug several times, I would say he's actually a good man. He's been nothing but a standup guy from my experiences with him, and I really don't appreciate the insults against him. What's wrong with him wanting to live on the work he does? If he can, more power to him. Team Four Star also is making money off of some of their work via ads in LPs and Patreon, would you complain about them as well? Both they and Lewis have equal rights to do so.

You can argue asinine if you want, but he was probably getting a ton of e-mails at the time since his first videos in the HoPR series were coming out rapid fire, only to slow as he reached the point where he hadn't seen the shows any more. Not even an issue anymore, as he scheduled out the last several, and is one away from being caught up.

As for the AT4W reviews...that's a matter of personal opinion. I (and many others) like them, you (and many others) don't. Nothing wrong with that. Taste is subjective.

In the end, you can hate the site and its content all you want, it's a free country. But you don't have to be rude to people and disrespect them because of it by calling them terrible people.

Try showing some level of civility and respect, and don't let your hate for something boil over to this extreme. It's not cool.
Every. Goddamn. Thing. That he just said.

Edit: It's legitimately unsettling when someone tries to actively and openly degrade the value of people in this manner. As if it's a person's job or duty to spread the "Truth" when ultimately, they have no understanding of the true value of any of these people as they've never met them or interacted with them in any meaningful manner, and even worse, they try to use the quality of their content as a measuring stick for their own personal worth.
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Post by TonyTheTiger » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:22 pm

I've met Doug Walker personally way back in 2008 and I can vouch that he is a personable, very friendly guy. I don't understand this fad of extreme hyperbole when judging people. When at any given moment we can turn on the TV and see actual evil, the thought of indicting a perfect stranger as less than decent baffles me. I can only be glad that anyone who would do that must be lucky enough to be surrounded by incredibly loving people if their standards for human behavior are that high.

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Singh is King wrote:This was pretty hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-prh930dpE
I feel so left out since I can pretty much only grow a beard. How about love for the moustache-less? :cry:

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:47 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:I never got an e-mail that there was a response to this.

But are you telling me Linkara is not an awful person? Someone who complained because people were using adblock on his videos and he wasn't getting money? If that's your main source of income, you should really re-evaluate. Then, he complained about people asking when new episodes of History of Power Rangers was coming, something that everyone did. Something that was so asinine, Rocco from Mega64 made fun of him for it. He also doesn't do a good job of describing comics. It feels like he just reads a summary on Wikipedia. When I saw Linkara in the Moustache video, I almost threw up in my mouth.

Doug just doesn't know what he's doing. He just yells into a camera because he thinks people will find it funny. Not to mention he just lost his touch and doesn't know what to do anymore. He should have stopped NC, but only brought it back because he needed money instead of doing something better.

Yes, they helped you when Youtube took you guys down, but come on, Kaiser. Those are only two people I mentioned. I can't think of a single person, other that Josh and Ryan who do BGP, that make good content on that channel and is actually a decent person.
How... are any of these people awful?

Linkara is a friendly, very upright person. He's there for his friends, he's very personable, he's a hard worker who's dedicated to his fanbase and his craft. Yeah, he's a dork, who's overly opinionated, gets too caught up in the little things, and more often than not his complaining about complainers is hardly beneficial, but I of all people know what it's like to have a ravenous fanbase breathing down your neck. Sometimes... you just want to tell people that it's not appropriate to be so impatient and downright entitled. He could be better composed, but I don't think he's an idiot, I don't think he's a bad person, and I'm pretty sure anybody on this forum has had similar lapses in judgment. We're not perfect.


Also, criticizing someone for utilizing a system to make money, then relying on their work and content that they produce to make said money, and then being frustrated by people who continuously cheat the system-- and thus them out of said money-- is just flat-out victim blaming. You'd rather he be cheated out of his money and suck it up. Truth be told? We're all struggling to make money, and anyone utilizing a system to be paid for the work they do deserves to have the system be used appropriately and then paid as per the arrangement.
Okay. But going on a long rant during his video for longer than it should is awful. Everyone is going to ask when x comes out. That's just how people are if they like something. Some people are more assholish and mean about it than others. Oh well. But to go out and complain about it in your video and be like "I was at cons! I have to actually watch the episodes! I moved!" Just sounds like him being a baby. Because he was being a baby. I guess since I've never experienced being asked when something's coming out over and over, but it can't be hard to just tune out.

Also, he complained about people using adblock. He didn't say "hey guys, can you please not adblock my videos." He did the same thing with his History or Power Rangers rant. He acted like a baby about it. I can't think that Linkara is anything but a child because he complains about so many things. People adblock things, yeah, but that doesn't mean you should yell at your fans.

Recently, as in a few hours ago, I saw a video of one of his AT4W videos. So I figured, because of this conversation, to check it out. It was on Amazing Fantasy #15. And lo and behold, it was awful. First he goes on about Spider-Man being a clone maker and stopping smokers and making deals with the devils. It's like, the clone thing was a 90's story. Everything in the 90's was awful in terms of comic books. The smoker thing was something everyone did with their iconic characters so it seems nitpicky for Linkara to do that. The deal with the devil was a dumb story and everyone hates it, but holy shit, he just really hates it because he act like Spider-Man was real and made an actual deal with the devil. Then he goes on about the cover and how it's stupid. Like, it's a cover. Have you seen covers of literally anything? Books, movies, video games? Anything? A lot of them are dumb. Then he says "I'm going to review this via modern times" and he goes on about a character's comment about some dance the then nameless popular kids were going to. Like Linkara of all people can make fun of dialog that popular kids say. He was probably bullied and picked on, so now he gets to act all pretentious because he makes videos on the internet! Ha! That will sure show them! It's surprising he hates Spider-Man when Spider-Man presumably had the same problems he had. But no, it's bad because I don't like the character and I say it's bad. He can go stick his head back up his butt with that.

Also, let's not forget the brilliant comic that he wrote. http://lightbringer.comicgenesis.com/d/20060315.html

Except it's awful. He also did the art but was so embarrassed that he used an alias and said it was someone else. Tell me, how does he think he can critique these other comics, if he can't write a good one himself?
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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ShadowDude112 wrote:Except it's awful. He also did the art but was so embarrassed that he used an alias and said it was someone else. Tell me, how does he think he can critique these other comics, if he can't write a good one himself?
Can you make a successful online review show yourself? If not, what gives you the right to criticize him?

Just throwing your own logic back at you.
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Polyphase Avatron wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:Except it's awful. He also did the art but was so embarrassed that he used an alias and said it was someone else. Tell me, how does he think he can critique these other comics, if he can't write a good one himself?
Can you make a successful online review show yourself? If not, what gives you the right to criticize him?

Just throwing your own logic back at you.
Could I? If I really tried hard enough, and didn't let the perfectionist and pessimistic part of me tell me it wasn't any good, sure. I probably could. I don't doubt that I could make something better than anything Linkara could ever dream of if I had the time, money, and did multiple drafts that I was happy with and would have others read over.
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:59 pm

Then why not put your money where your mouth is?
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:02 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Then why not put your money where your mouth is?
Maybe I will when I stop procrastinating.
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Post by rereboy » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:51 am

These kind of things shouldn't be taken too seriously. I have no idea who you guys are talking about but it seems to me that the problem, from both sides, is taking things too seriously.

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Post by Noah » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:58 am

rereboy wrote:These kind of things shouldn't be taken too seriously. I have no idea who you guys are talking about but it seems to me that the problem, from both sides, is taking things too seriously.
Hell yeah, how about we back to talk about TFS DBZ Abridged?
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