No denying that. But everything he's done since, from the Boo arc to his post Dragon Ball-material, has indicated that era of storytelling isn't a style he's going to return to. (And as a small point of dissent, I don't think the two Piccolo arcs quite fall into that mold.)EXBadguy wrote:What're you talking about? Many folks outside this community were expecting the new material to have the quality as the first three sagas before BoG was announced.
I'm talking about production and pacing -- I can see why you might not like the story as much.VintageSaiyan wrote:This is so annoying and it's being thrown around every single time somebody criticizes Super. IMO the "rose tinted glasses" are being worn by those that defend this steaming pile of turd, it has nothing to do with nostalgia and everything to do with standards.
No one should use the phrase "steaming pile of turd" while legitimately discussing a piece of work, especially in a thread like this aimed at sussing out expectations vs. flaws, etc.
But literally picture what this place would look like if we had weekly threads during the Namek/Freeza arc. Actually try to imagine that. I don't think most people appreciate what a shitshow that would be, because they watched Z without first reading the manga, and on a daily schedule, all of which dampened the impact of one bad episode, instance of poor pacing or poor adaptation. But, like, yikes. I get that Z has high highs, but it has a lot of lows along the way -- many of which I have no doubt would be deemed franchise-ending if given a weeks' reflection on message boards.
Again, strictly from a production/pacing/adaptation side.
Toei did make a mistake with Super by not allocating particularly high resources to its first five or so episodes, to be fair.
God, no. The old movies are triple/double-feature action spectacles meant to be flashy series advertisements for Japanese children on breaks, and they're totally fun through that lens, but most of them barely even have writing outside of facilitating a fight with the main villain.ExBadguy wrote:cuz some of the old movies did have better writing the the last two new movies, so there's definitely potential for Toei to improve in that area.