The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:48 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:A couple of fights here:

- 4th form Freeza (Revival of F) vs. Uub (28 Budokai - assuming BoG and RF are canon to End of Z).
- Cell and Freeza (GT) vs. Base Vegeta (GT).
- 5 Cell Juniors vs. Kaioshin, SSJ Trunks (28th Budokai), SSJ Son Goten (28th Budokai), Piccolo (Buu arc) and Shisame.
- Son Goku, Jackie Chun, Nam, Krillin (21st Budokai) and Bora vs. Mercenary Tao.
1. Freeza tears Oob's nuts off
2. Vegeta
3. Tean 2 stomps
4. Tao wins pretty easily. Goku couldn't even come close to touching him in their first fight and that Goku is even stronger than the one from the 21st Budokai (who Jackie Chun was equal to).
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:19 pm

Bruce Wayne (Batman) vs. The "normal" humans

1. Ranfan
2. Mr. Satan
3. Videl
4. Colonel Violet
5. Ninja Murasaki
6. Man-wolf
7. Pamput

Scenario #1: If Bruce loses have Batman fight with no prep time.

Scenario #2: If Batman loses then give him prep time.

Bonus round w/ prep time (optional):

1. Bora
2. Nam
3. Grneral Blue
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:28 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Bruce Wayne (Batman) vs. The "normal" humans

1. Ranfan
2. Mr. Satan
3. Videl
4. Colonel Violet
5. Ninja Murasaki
6. Man-wolf
7. Pamput

Scenario #1: If Bruce loses have Batman fight with no prep time.

Scenario #2: If Batman loses then give him prep time.

Bonus round w/ prep time (optional):

1. Bora
2. Nam
3. Grneral Blue
Batman's defeated Bane, and quite a few people stronger than him. I don't see any of these guys doing any better. I'm assuming that these aren't one after another.

With time to analyze and prepare for the fights, Batman stomps all three of the special guys. He'd just gas them, or electrify his suit. And he's fought off stronger psychics than Blue before.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:38 pm

500 porta fusioned frieza soldiers vs all the z warriors in RoF movie? Could they kill some of the z warriors?

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Post by Ringworm128 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:49 pm

With some prep time and a load of gadgets, Bats could take out Tao and RRA arc Goku. Oh and SSJGSSJ Vegetto

All human fighters and a non frightened Gohan along with Popo and Piccolo, all with their Saiyan arc power levels and two Senzu each

Vs

Nappa.

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Post by Pannaliciour » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:54 am

Vegeta's rage vs ssj3 goku , ssj3 gotenks and mystic gohan ( all dbs , bog)

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Post by Khin » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:14 am

Pannaliciour wrote:Vegeta's rage vs ssj3 goku , ssj3 gotenks and mystic gohan ( all dbs , bog)
If the Rage Boost is permanent,Vegeta stomps everyone in his path,if it is not,Gohan or Gotenks might survive and trashes Vegeta

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Post by Khin » Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:14 am

1: Kaio-sama and Piccolo(Saiyan Saga) vs. Nappa

2: Base Bardock(Episode of Bardock) vs. King Vegeta

3: SSJ3 Gogeta vs. Ultimate Gohan

4: SSJ Gotenks(Pre ROSAT) vs. Kid Boo

5: SSJ Grade II Vegeta(Post ROSAT 1rst Time) vs. SSJ Grade III Mirai Trunks(Post ROSAT 1rst Time)

6: Majin Mr.Satan vs. Majin Spopovich and Majin Yamu

7: Kibito vs. Base Goku(Cell Games)

8: Kaioshin vs. Shisami

9: 50% Final Form Freeza(Post Training) vs. SSJ3 Vegetto

10: Chaozu(Boo Saga) vs. Babidi

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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:58 am

ringworm128 wrote:With some prep time and a load of gadgets, Bats could take out Tao and RRA arc Goku. Oh and SSJGSSJ Vegetto

All human fighters and a non frightened Gohan along with Popo and Piccolo, all with their Saiyan arc power levels and two Senzu each

Vs

Nappa.
No Vegeta means no one to warn Nappa's dumb ass not to stand there and let a Kienzan slice his head in half. Team Earth wins.

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Post by Captain Space » Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:59 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:1: Kaio-sama and Piccolo(Saiyan Saga) vs. Nappa

2: Base Bardock(Episode of Bardock) vs. King Vegeta

3: SSJ3 Gogeta vs. Ultimate Gohan

4: SSJ Gotenks(Pre ROSAT) vs. Kid Boo

5: SSJ Grade II Vegeta(Post ROSAT 1rst Time) vs. SSJ Grade III Mirai Trunks(Post ROSAT 1rst Time)

6: Majin Mr.Satan vs. Majin Spopovich and Majin Yamu

7: Kibito vs. Base Goku(Cell Games)

8: Kaioshin vs. Shisami

9: 50% Final Form Freeza(Post Training) vs. SSJ3 Vegetto

10: Chaozu(Boo Saga) vs. Babidi
1. Leaving the 'official' numbers behind us, I doubt the pair of them would do nearly as well as Nappa did against Goku; Nappa wins (unless somehow Kaio holds off Nappa long enough for Piccolo to nail him with a Makankosappo).

2. Didn't Bardock already surpass (or nearly) King Vegeta in the previous special? Bardock wins.

3. I mean, I'd say Gogeta stomps but I think SSJ1 Gogeta would beat this Gohan (based on the movie's presentation of what constitutes the main conflict and the biggest deal) so what do I know.

4. They can't be too far apart in power one way or the other...I'd say probably Gotenks? He has way, way more time with a full half-hour to finish Buu than he did in SSJ3, and even in SSJ3 he was mere seconds away from finishing the fight before his time ran out. Of course I'm not 100% Gotenks is stronger but I think he is.

5. I think it was pretty clearly established that grade 3 is just overall worse than grade 2. Otherwise Vegeta would've used it. This fight goes like grade 3 Trunks vs. Cell did, maybe dragging on a bit longer but Trunks will run out of energy first anyway.

6. Mr. Satan, one would assume. He did beat regular Spopovich and Yamu is presumably not even as good as Spopovich.

7. I have absolutely no idea.

8. Kaioshin, based on Piccolo being more closely matched with Shisami. And if you go by the line of thought that Piccolo only struggled with Shisami due to being tired, then Kaioshin for sure.

9. My in-no-way-confirmed-or-canon numbers say Freeza! (Based on my assumptions that 10% Beerus >>> SSJ3 Vegetto, and that SBG isn't that much weaker than SSJG, hence 50% final form Freeza is, like...equivalent to 20% or 25% Beerus or something?)

10. Chaozu I guess? *shrug*
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:01 pm

Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs. Cyborg Tao
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:17 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs. Cyborg Tao
I personally have Cyborg Tao as stronger than 23rd WMAT Yamcha so I think he takes it.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:27 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yamcha (23rd Budokai) vs. Cyborg Tao
Yamcha could keep up with Tenshinhan and weighted Goku's movements, while Taopaipai couldn't even keep track of a not trying Tenshinhan's movements. That alone should answer this match.

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Post by Rodimus Prime » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:05 pm

Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks vs Lapis and Lazuli.

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:18 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks vs Lapis and Lazuli.
If he beat them in Super Saiyan, shouldn't he logically be able to trash them in Super Saiyan 2. Unless you're talking about Trunks before that point, but in that case you hae to specify: is it the Trunks in the TV special, the Trunks that comes to kill Freeza, the Trunks that comes to help against the androids 3 years later, the Trunks that trained in the RoSaT or the one that trained for the Cell Games?

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Post by Rodimus Prime » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:24 pm

Doctor. wrote:If he beat them in Super Saiyan, shouldn't he logically be able to trash them in Super Saiyan 2. Unless you're talking about Trunks before that point, but in that case you hae to specify: is it the Trunks in the TV special, the Trunks that comes to kill Freeza, the Trunks that comes to help against the androids 3 years later, the Trunks that trained in the RoSaT or the one that trained for the Cell Games?
Yes I should have specified, it is actually the "teenager" (13-14 years old), sorry.

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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:49 pm

https://m.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/c ... ei_negima/

Raiten Taisō II Negi Springfield runs the Saiyan Saga Gauntlet:

- Unweighted Piccolo(vs. Raditz)
- Unweighted Goku(vs. Raditz)
- Chaozu
- 1 Saibaman
- Yamcha
- Krillin
- Raditz
- Tenshinhan
- Gohan
- Piccolo
- Nappa
- Full Power Goku
- Vegeta
- Kaioken x3 Goku

He's allowed to have a Senzu Bean after each fight. How far does he go?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:02 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:https://m.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/c ... ei_negima/

Raiten Taisō II Negi Springfield runs the Saiyan Saga Gauntlet:

- Unweighted Piccolo(vs. Raditz)
- Unweighted Goku(vs. Raditz)
- Chaozu
- 1 Saibaman
- Yamcha
- Krillin
- Raditz
- Tenshinhan
- Gohan
- Piccolo
- Nappa
- Full Power Goku
- Vegeta
- Kaioken x3 Goku

He's allowed to have a Senzu Bean after each fight. How far does he go?
Stops at Raditz.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:09 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Doctor. wrote:If he beat them in Super Saiyan, shouldn't he logically be able to trash them in Super Saiyan 2. Unless you're talking about Trunks before that point, but in that case you hae to specify: is it the Trunks in the TV special, the Trunks that comes to kill Freeza, the Trunks that comes to help against the androids 3 years later, the Trunks that trained in the RoSaT or the one that trained for the Cell Games?
Yes I should have specified, it is actually the "teenager" (13-14 years old), sorry.
The Super Saiyan Trunks that was weaker than Base Future Gohan?
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Post by LightBing » Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:30 pm

Dabura + Perfect Cell (Dance Fusion) vs Super Boo

Goku(End of the first arc) vs Yamcha (21st TB)

Tenshinhan,Yamcha,Kuririn,Chiaotzu and Yajirobe vs Kami - Everyone at beginning of Z powers

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