Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

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Base Goku (post) > Cooler.

Nope.

Yes.

The suppression he displayed on their short fight before he transformed was inferior to Goku.

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I'm sure that the widely accepted SSJ multipliers, established via Daizenshuu, V Jump, Death Battle, etc are as follows:

SSJ - 50x
SSJ2 - 100x
SSJ3 - 400x
SSJ4 - 4000x

SSJ God seems to be heavily debated, with the multiplier sitting somewhere between 5000 - 50,000

I actually have SSJ God at 2 million haha.

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Unless you are bound by the Daiz on that 150 million for SSJ Goku, that 470 million for Cooler is doable.

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So those idiotic 250K and 75K for Vegeta and Krillin are from V-Jump and not the Daiz after all. More reason to ignore them.

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So those idiotic 250K and 75K for Vegeta and Krillin are from V-Jump and not the Daiz after all. More reason to ignore them.

HMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!! I'm still keeping Krillin at 75,000 though. Gohan jumped to a rather high level prior to his Zenkai so it's only natural that Krillin would thanks to that potential unlock. Plus, I have a hard time believing Krillin surpassed Tenshinhan without that boost.

I have him at 200K at minimum. He's suppose to be of help against Freeza.

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HMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!! I'm still keeping Krillin at 75,000 though. Gohan jumped to a rather high level prior to his Zenkai so it's only natural that Krillin would thanks to that potential unlock. Plus, I have a hard time believing Krillin surpassed Tenshinhan without that boost.

I have him at 200K at minimum. He's suppose to be of help against Freeza.

That seems a little high.

To quote someone from another forum:

Chapter: 282 (DBZ 88), P15.1
Context: talking to Goku
Vegeta: “You seem confident after becoming so overwhelmingly strong, but you absolutely can’t win against Freeza like this! Not unless you were immortal! You don’t understand a thing about how fearsome Freeza is!”

Chapter: 283 (DBZ 89), P1.1
Goku: “I think that I’ve gotten pretty strong, if I say so myself…But you’re saying that I still absolutely can’t beat Freeza…!?”
Vegeta: “That’s right. If you want to fight him, you’d better prepare yourself. Freeza’s strength is most likely far beyond your imagination…”

If Vegeta felt Kaio-ken Goku's power against Ginyu (180,000), then this would mean Krillin (and Gohan) must be above 180,000 as well, which is clearly far out of Ginyu's reach.

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Don't you think the gap from Vegeta and Freeza is a little big? Freeza did have to put effort in that little struggle.

500K seems more fitting.

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Why wasn't Freeza at FP there?

He gets shocked by Vegeta not only catching his punch but managing to hold him off. Krillin even wonders why Freeza is still calmed.

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Why wasn't Freeza at FP there?

He gets shocked by Vegeta not only catching his punch but managing to hold him off. Krillin even wonders why Freeza is still calmed.

I take it you don't remember the part where Freeza powers up and blows off his armor?

You can't be serious.. Right?

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The levels are fine, he's on his right to ignore Base Saiyans < Freeza. But I do agree that Trunks should be >= the future androids.

I also love that you put Piccolo almost equal to Vegeta and Trunks at the CG, what made you change your mind Vic?

The kids << Piccolo and Gohan?

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Getting 50 times stronger in 10 days is no way impossible. Piccolo did it on Kaio's planet.

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He did say that but then went 100%

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Piccolo never expressed inferiority to Krillin or Gohan (they are easily on the 200K ranged). There's also Nails comments.

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I don't give a crap. Never use Dragon Ball Wiki, it's a disgrace.

A little late, but is this attitude really necessary? I've been noticing some hostility in your posts as of late. Please try to chill and keep things shonen, especially when discussing something as subjective and irrelevant in the long run as fan-made power levels.

Also why I agree wikis are not reliable, this time THEY DO give a source. That makes that info trustworthy.

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Just to be clear, I don't go by base GT Goku > SS3 Z Goku.

But that is more than proven.

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I'll try to make a minimal list with Freeza at 120 million. I just read the fight with him and SSJ Goku and besides the Nova Strike, Freeza did nothing to Goku.

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I'm curious as hell at the power levels for Gotenks, Yakon, Super Vegeta, Gohan and Goku in that picture. Anyone knows?

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They aren't half bad, thanks.

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Tarles at 19,000? Seriously?

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80,000,000 for me.