Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

[dbzfan7]

I'm thinking about what to do with Pure Evil Boo. Vegeta made it sound like he could be dealt with just like Fat Boo. I know Vegeta isn't the best indicator but he already knows about the "Fat an Skinny" Boo's and he says it would be unfavorable for Boo if he reverted to either of the two forms. In the manga it showed while brief Pure Evil Boo absolutely decimating Fat Boo while Fat Boo managed to put up a little of a fight against Kid Boo.

Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P7.3-6
Context: Vegeta grabs good Boo’s pod and wonders what will happen if he pulls it out
Vegeta: “This’ll be fun…Will you turn back into this fatso? Or will you become that scrawny guy? …Either way, it seems that your power will doubtlessly fall below what it is now.”
Boo: “Sto-stop it! Do-don’t touch that! Hands off!”
Vegeta: “Kukkukku…You seem even more panicked than I expected…Apparently it will be quite unfavorable for you…”
Boo: “Th-that’s the only one you mustn’t tear out…! I-I’ll stop being me!”
Goku: “’I’ll stop being me’…?”
Vegeta: “That sounds interesting…Did you really think I’d listen to you?”

[dbzfan7]

Well, if Pure Evil Boo only possesses the majority of Fat Boo's power, who was stronger than the SSJ2's but still something SSJ3 Goku could handle... then yeah, that'd be good for them. They might not even need SSJ3 to take care of him. Presumably, Fat Boo would have LOST power when he expelled the evil that became Pure Evil Boo, making him weaker too.

Fat Boo: 10
Pure Evil Boo: 6
Mister Boo: 4

Something like that is usually what I go with.

Seems too close. Pure Evil Boo dominated Fat Boo. You could argue the manga didn't show enough of the fight so it could have been closer. If we use the anime he pretty much destroyed Fat Boo. Seems Pure Evil would at least be Kid Boo level, but Vegeta says they could handle Pure Evil so perhaps he'd be below Kid Boo.

I think he should be below SSJ3 Goku as they seem to hint that Pure Evil can be handled, but still should be above SSJ2 as he's stronger then the Fat Boo that did better than SSJ2 Vegeta against Kid Boo. Problem is there isn't much room for a gap there.

[dbzfan7]

Isn't this the same sized gap that was implied between Goku and the Ginyu Force he faced upon initially arriving on Namek (1.5x'ish)? Seems like plenty to describe Buu vs Buu.

Problem is Pure Evil Boo easily stomps Mr. Boo. Mr. Boo puts up a better fight than SSJ2 Vegeta, and Vegeta says Pure Evil Boo can be handled. That doesn't leave much room for a gap.

[dbzfan7]

Problem is Pure Evil Boo easily stomps Mr. Boo. Mr. Boo puts up a better fight than SSJ2 Vegeta, and Vegeta says Pure Evil Boo can be handled. That doesn't leave much room for a gap.

It's not really a problem. If you believe Mr Buu splitting again spits his current power (just using Kaboom's numbers again):
Fat Buu: 10
Pure Evil Buu: 6
Mr Buu: 4
SSJ2 Vegeta: 3?
New Pure Evil Buu: 2.4 (same ratio as before, 60%)
New Mr Buu: 1.6 (40%)

SSJ2 Vegeta > New Pure Evil Buu

If you believe Mr Buu splitting again somehow would release a Pure Evil Buu equal to the previous one, then there's always SSJ3 Goku, or Gohan. >_>

Mr. Boo and Pure Evil Boo are too close IMO. Mr. Boo actually puts up some fight against Kid Boo which puts him significantly above Vegeta. Mr. Boo couldn't do anything to Pure Evil Boo. He just gets smacked around until he gets turned into chocolate.

[dbzfan7]

Mr. Boo and Pure Evil Boo are too close IMO. Mr. Boo actually puts up some fight against Kid Boo which puts him significantly above Vegeta. Mr. Boo couldn't do anything to Pure Evil Boo. He just gets smacked around until he gets turned into chocolate.

If you make the gap between the two bigger than the already decent 1.5x, wouldn't that push Mr Buu even further away from Kid Buu? Unless you're implying that Kid Buu should go between Mr Buu and Pure Evil Buu...

Well if we go by a 1.5 gap then I can maybe make it work.

[dbzfan7]

Lowered my levels a week ago so I thought I'd re-post them.

Spoiler:

Still debating on doing the movies,GT, or The End. So far the headache on balancing it all is too much. The End I may do as well as BOG. Gt and the other movies are pretty much out of the picture.

DBZFan7's Attempt at Power levels Oh My Gami Kai

In Progress. Fix them later

SSJ= 50x Base
Grade 2= 75X/1.5x Super Saiyan
Grade 3= 100x base/2x Super Saiyan
SSJ2= 100x base/2x Super Saiyan
SSJ3= 400x base/4x Super Saiyan 2/8x Super Saiyan
Fusion= (a+b)x6
Potara= (a+b)x400 If power levels aren't equal the multiplier changes to the percentage difference between the two power levels.

Journey To The West

Goku: 10
Oozaru: 100
Bulma: 4
Shuu: 5.8
Mai: 5.8
Pilaf: 3
Yamcha: 8
Oolong: 3
Puar: 2
Gyamao: 13
Muten Roshi: 40 (suppressed)

Training With Chores

Goku: 12
Krillin: 6.5
Muten Roshi: 80
Lunch: 4
SSJ Lunch: 7.3

Jackie Chan's Here To Kick Ass And Take Boobs

Goku: 82
Oozarau: 820
Krillin: 65
Yamcha: 60
Jackie Chan: 80
~Full power: 180
Nam: 70
Girin: 72
Bacterian: 12
Ran Fan: 6.3

Dr. Gero Wants A Word With Dr. Frappe

Goku: 90
Krillin: 75
Silver: 15
Major Metallitron: 83
Murasaki: 17
8: 110
Buyon: 85
White: 7
Blue: 88
Arale: Who knows except Toriyama saying she’d beat Piccolo Daimao era Goku

You Killed Upa’s Father, Prepare To Die

Goku: 92
Goku (post training): 140
Bora: 35
Karin: 190
Tao Pai Pai: 120

I Wanna Be a Big Boy

Goku: 140
Red: 3
Black: 18
Robot: 125

You Couldn't Just Predict Goku Winning?

Goku: 142
Muten Roshi: 80
Krillin: 85
Yamcha: 80
Fang: 78
Invisible Man: 20
Mummy Man: 100
Akuman: 110
Grampa Gohan: 142

To Kill Or Not To Kill

Goku: 180
Krillin: 130
Yamcha: 125
Jackie Chan: 139
Tsuru Sen'nin: 120
Chaozu: 115
Tenshinhan: 180
Panputto: 7
Chappa-O: 90

Krillin's First And Only Death.... Right?

Goku: 180
Goku (fatigued): 100
Krillin: 130
Yamcha: 125
Muten Roshi: 139
Chaozu: 122
Tenshinhan: 180
Yajirobe: 175
Tambourine: 170
Cymbal: 150
Piccolo Daimao (old): 210


Thank You Super Convenient Water

Goku (post water): 260
Tenshinhan: 185
Drum: 205
Piccolo Daimao: 260

Maybe I Should Have Done Something

Goku: 260
Mr. Popo: 300
God: 340
Piccolo (kid): 100

I Am The Best Around And Nothing's Ever Gonna Keep Me Down

Goku (weighted suppression): 280
Goku: (w/o weights suppressed): 300
Goku: 380
Krillin: 215
Tenshinhan: 280
Yamcha: 200
Chaozu: 180
Chi Chi: 130
God: 340
Cyborg Tao: 210
Piccolo: 370


Goku Had Sex...How?

Goku (weighted): 334
Goku: 416
Kamehameha: 924 (and rising)
Piccolo (weighted): 322
Piccolo: 408
Piccolo (weighted post): 329
~Makankosappo: 1,020-1,030
~Full Power Makankosappo: 1,330
Gohan: 710
Angry Gohan: 1,307
Gohan (post boost): 1
Raditz: 1,500
Muten Roshi: 139
Krillin: 206
Yamcha: 177
Tenshinhan: 250
Chaozu: 110
Farmer: 5

I Am The Saiyan Prince, That’s What I Am

Goku (suppressed): 5,000
Goku: 8,200
Kaioken: 16,400
Kaioken X3: 24,600
Kaioken X4: 32,800
Hypothetical X5: 41,000
Vegeta: 18,000
Vegeta (post fake moon): 10,000
Oozaru Vegeta: 100,000
Oozaru Vegeta Full power: 180,000
Vegeta (weakened): 4,500
Nappa: 4,000
Gohan (calm): 981
~Masenko: 2,800
Piccolo (suppressed): 1,220
Piccolo: 3,500
Krillin (suppressed): 1,083
Krillin: 1770
Yamcha: 1,480
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Chaozu: 610
Saibamen: 1,200
Kaio: 3,500
Yajirobe: 970

Z-Fighters In Spaaaaaace

Gohan (minor suppression): 1,500
Gohan: 2,200
Gohan (some potential) 14,000 (rising)
Krillin (minor suppression): 1,500
Krillin: 1,800
Krillin (potential): 13,000 (rising)
Vegeta: 24,000
Vegeta (zenkai): 30,000
Kui: 18,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Zarbon (transformed) 30,000
Freeza: 530,000
W. Nameks (suppressed): 1,000
W. Nameks: 3,000
Freeza Soldiers: 1,500
Nail: 42,000

Go Go Ginyu Rangers

Goku: 90,000
Kaioken: 180,000
Kaioken X10: 900,000
Gohan: 14,000 (rising)
Krillin: 13,000 (rising)
Vegeta: 30,000
Guldo: 10,000
Reacoom: 40,000
Burter: 40,000
Jeice: 40,000
Ginyu: 120,000
Ginyu (Goku): 23,000
Freeza: 530,000
Nail: 42,000

The Guy Everyone Thought Was A Woman

Goku: 3,000,000
Kaioken X10: 30,000,000
Kaioken X20: 60,000,000
SSJ Goku: 150,000,000
Gohan: 300,000
Gohan angry: 900,000
Vegeta: 400,000
Vegeta (Zenkai) 2,400,000
Krillin: 75,000
Piccolo: 35,000
Piccolo (fusion weighted): 1,400,000
Piccolo (fusion): 1,600,000
Freeza: 530,000
Second Form: 1,000,000
Second Form (power increase) 1,300,000
~full power: 1,500,000
Third Form: 2,300,000
Final form (3%): 3,600,000
50%: 60,000,000
Full Power Freeza: 120,000,000


Wow Two Super Saiyans, No Way This Form Will Get Overused

Goku: 3,600,000
SSJ Goku: 180,000,000
Vegeta: 2,800,000
Piccolo: 2,600,000
Gohan: 300,000
Trunks: 3,300,000
SSJ Trunks: 165,000,000
Mecha Freeza: 140,000,000
King Cold: 100,000,000

Goku Gets Benched Again

Goku: 4,200,000
SSJ Goku: 210,000,000
SSJ Goku (sick): 170,000,000 (decreasing)
Vegeta: 4,600,000
SSJ Vegeta: 230,000,000
Piccolo: 175,000,000
Gohan: 3,000,000
Trunks: 3,900,000
SSJ Trunks: 195,000,000
19: 96,000,000
~Goku ki absorbed: 140,000,00
20: 110,000,000
~A little of Vegeta ki absorbed: 115,000,000
~Some of Piccolo's ki absorbed: 135,000,000
18: 300,000,000
17: 310,000,000
16: 520,000,000

Hentai To The Extreme

Vegeta: 4,600,000
SSJ Vegeta: 230,000,000
Gohan: 3,000,000
Trunks: 3,900,000
SSJ Trunks: 195,000,000
Piccolo (Super Namek): 315,000,000
18: 300,000,000
17: 310,000,000
16: 520,000,000
Initial Cell: 270,000,000
Cell: 520,000,000


And You Thought Cell Couldn't Be More Distrubing

Piccolo (Super Namek): 315,000,000
Vegeta: 13,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 650,000,000
Super Vegeta: 975,000,000
Trunks: 12,500,000
SSJ Trunks: 625,000,000
18: 300,000,000
16: 520,000,000
Semi Cell: 730,000,000

Behold the Perfect Body (You Wish You Could Touch It)

Vegeta: 13,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 650,000,000
Super Vegeta: 975,000,000
Trunks: 12,400,000
SSJ Trunks: 620,000,000
Super Trunks: 930,000,000
Grade 3 Trunks: 1,240,000,000
18: 300,000,000
16: 520,000,000
Semi Cell: 730,000,000
Semi Perfect Cell (full power): 780,000,000
Perfect Cell initial: 900,000,000 (and rising)
Perfect Cell (vs Trunks): 1,200,000,000
Perfect Cell (Restrained Buffed) : 1,800,000,000

Cell games: Gohan's Wussy and Badass moment

Goku: 50,000,000
FPSSJ Goku: 2,500,000,000
Gohan: 60,000,000
FPSSJ Gohan: 3,000,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan: 6,000,000,000
~Rage Boost: 7,500,000,000
Vegeta: 38,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 1,900,000,000
Trunks: 38,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 1,900,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
Perfect Cell (vs Goku): 2,700,000,000
FP Perfect Cell: 4,500,000,000
Buff Perfect Cell: 5,200,000,000
SP Cell: 7,300,000,000
Cell Juniors: 2,200,000,000

Gohan The Power Ranger

Gohan/Green Ranger: 60,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 3,000,000,000
Goten: 48,000,000
SSJ Goten: 2,400,000,000
Trunks: 49,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 2,450,000,000

Everybody’s Kung Fu Fighting

Goku: 82,000,000
Vegeta: 70,000,000
Gohan: 62,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 3,100,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan: 6,200,000,000
Goten: 50,000,000
SSJ Goten: 2,500,000,000
Trunks: 51,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 2,550,000,000
Piccolo: 1,300,000,000
18: 300,000,000
Kaioshin: 2,000,000,000
Kibito: 55,000,000

Bibidi Babidi Boo

Goku: 82,000,000
SSJ Goku: 4,100,000,000
SSJ2 Goku: 8,200,000,000
Vegeta: 70,000,000
Gohan: 62,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 3,100,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan: 6,200,000,000
Goten: 50,000,000
SSJ Goten: 2,500,000,000
Trunks: 51,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 2,550,000,000
Piccolo: 1,300,000,000
Kaioshin: 2,000,000,000
Kibito: 55,000,000
Pui Pui: 200,000
Yakon: 78,000,000
Dabra (if at SSJ level): 2,900,000,000
Dabra (if at SSJ2 level): 6,000,000,000

You Wouldn't Like Boo When He’s Angry

Goku: 82,000,000
SSJ Goku: 4,100,000,000
SSJ2 Goku: 8,200,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 32,800,000,000
Vegeta: 70,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 3,500,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta: 7,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta: 8,200,000,000
Gohan: 62,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 3,100,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan: 6,200,000,000
Goten: 50,000,000
SSJ Goten: 2,500,000,000
Trunks: 51,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 2,550,000,000
Piccolo: 1,300,000,000
Kaioshin: 2,000,000,000
Kibito: 55,000,000
Dabra (if at SSJ level): 2,900,000,000
Dabra (if at SSJ2 level): 6,000,000,000
Majin Boo initial: 2,600,000,000
Majin Boo initial (if SSJ2): 5,700,000,000
Majin Boo (1st Boost): 15,000,000,000
Majin Boo: 20,000,000,000

The Grim Reaper Of Annoying

Goku: 82,000,000
Piccolo: 1,300,000,000
Gohan: 62,000,000
Kaioshin: 2,000,000,000
Kibito: 55,000,000
Goten: 50,000,000
SSJ Goten: 2,500,000,000
Trunks: 51,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 2,550,000,000
Gotenks: 600,000,000
SSJ Gotenks: 30,000,000,000
Majin Boo: 20,000,000,000

Boo Loses Weight?

Majin Boo: 20,000,000,000
Majin Boo Pissed: 50,000,000,000
Mr. Boo: 20,000,000,000
Evil Boo: 30,000,000,000
Super Boo: 250,000,000,000
Piccolo: 1,300,000,000
Goten: 60,000,000
SSJ Goten: 3,000,000,000
Trunks: 60,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 3,000,000,000
Gotenks: 720,000,000
SSJ Gotenks: 36,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 288,000,000,000
Gohan (post Z-sword): 90,000,000
Goku: 82,000,000
Kaioshin: 2,000,000,000
Kibito: 55,000,000

The Ultimate Shafting

Super Boo: 250,000,000,000
Bootenks: 539,300,000,000
Gotenks: 720,000,000
SSJ Gotenks: 36,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 288,000,000,000
Gohan (post Z-sword): 90,000,000
Ultimate Gohan: 400,000,000,000
Goku: 82,000,000
Kaioshin: 2,000,000,000
Kibito: 55,000,000
Piccolo: 1,300,000,000

The Magic Fashion Accessory

Ultimate Gohan: 400,000,000,000
Goku: 82,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 32,800,000,000
Vegeta: 82,000,000
Vegetto: 65,600,000,000
Super Vegetto: 3,280,000,000,000
Super Boo: 300,000,000,000
Bootenks: 539,300,000,000
Boocollo (Piccolo with boys): 251,420,000,000
Boohan: 651,420,000,000
Kibitoshin: 5,754,000,000

Mr. Satan Saves The Universe For Realsies

Goku: 82,000,000
SSJ Goku: 4,100,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 32,800,000,000 (decreasing)
Vegeta: 82,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 4,100,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta: 8,200,000,000
Boocollo: 251,300,000,000
Super Boo: 250,000,000,000
South Boo: 265,000,000,000
Kid Boo: 36,000,000,000
Mr. Boo: 20,000,000,000
West Kaioshin: 3,000,000
North Kaioshin: 2,800,000
South Kaioshin: 20,000,000,000
East Kaioshin: 2,000,000,000
Dai Kaioshin: 5,000,000,000
Ultimate Gohan: 400,000,000,000
Goten: 60,000,000
Trunks: 60,000,000
Piccolo: 1,300,000,000
Kibitoshin: 5,754,000,000

[dbzfan7]

Copycat! We have Gohan and Gotenks at the same levels.

I did this a week or two ago. I just forgot to re-post it.

[dbzfan7]

Copycat! We have Gohan and Gotenks at the same levels.

I did this a week or two ago. I just forgot to re-post it.

I was trying to be funny .

I know. I was just being literal.

[dbzfan7]

I ignored the V-Jump battle powers because I don't believe they can work. But I go mostly by what is officially stated.

And we can't decide what's official and what isn't.

I don't think they work either.

[dbzfan7]

It's almost impossible to incorporate every possible hint or line or statement.

[dbzfan7]

So, uh...

... A lot of THESE are certainly new.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/list/

A lot of those don't even make sense.

[dbzfan7]

Am I the only one who is going nuts over the Pilaf Gang levels?

[dbzfan7]

It's as canon and official as everything Toriyama put into the manga.

Pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt.

Pbt.








Pbt.

(Fuck BoG)

Godku>Vegetto

[dbzfan7]

Billy
Super Vegetto
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jank busta ass foos

No no honey, whether we like it or not the almighty Goku is now the most powerful saiyan.

[dbzfan7]

No power levels for the other's in Jaco?

[dbzfan7]

No power levels for the other's in Jaco?

Who did I miss?

Tights, the old guy, the shark, the thugs.

[dbzfan7]

Please don't use Dragon Ball Wiki.... Ever .

How about you lighten up the discussions in the threads? All the debates I've seen from you seem to be super-serious.

But the discussions are Super Cereal.

[dbzfan7]

Hell anyone can make the wiki say what they want. I could have it say Raditz died because he lost the will to fight or some shit like that.

[dbzfan7]

Beers thinks he's incapable of beating him and Goku doesn't argue. Goku actually argued when Tarble talked down to him.

Or the good ol "Why bother making a statement at all that's not true if you don't retcon that statement later"

[dbzfan7]

Also why I agree wikis are not reliable, this time THEY DO give a source. That makes that info trustworthy.

It's misinterpreted though. He's credited as the author of Dragon Ball, not the creator of GT. GT was made by a bunch of people in Toei. Toriyama's involvement had nothing to do with the story either.