Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

[Analytic]

If you listen closely you can hear the transformation noise twice.

[Analytic]

It would have a myriad of contradictions like GT does.

Such as?

[Analytic]

It would have a myriad of contradictions like GT does.

Such as?

Do you want me to list them all?

Yes. GT's powerscale is admittedly a bit wonky, but I don't really see it being as bad as you're suggesting.

[Analytic]

Gohan had the same hair when he transformed when watching Spopovich beat up Videl. I don't think you could reasonably argue he's a Super Saiyan 2 there when it's talked about later against Kibito as a big deal and not a form Gohan just casually popped into not too long before.

Also, there is never a case of a Super Saiyan 2 consistently lacking sparks. Saying "Super Saiyan 2s don't have to have sparks because Toriyama sometimes forgets them in off-hand panels" is basically the same as saying "a Super Saiyans's eyes don't necessarily have no pupils since there's some panels where they are drawn with pupils" (Trunks against 2nd form Cell, for example). Using small panels where not much detail was put in or with a minor inconsistency to try and discredit a defining trait of a form is just reaching, in my opinion.

[Analytic]

Goku and Vegeta seemed to take Dabra pretty lightly. I don't see Cell's power being treated with as much disrespected (for lack of a better word) since he rivaled SS2 Kid Gohan who's power was still held in a high regard.

[Analytic]

Is GT Pan stronger than Namek Freeza?

Astronomically so. She prompted Trunks to question if she was stronger than him and knocked General Rild on his ass. She also taunted/mocked how weak one of the Evil Dragons (can't recall which one at the moment) and I don't think he'd be weaker than Freeza.

[Analytical Delusion]

It's probably been addressed here before, but how do you guys deal with that comment by Piccolo in the ROSAT about Gotenks having a chance in base state, without knowing at the time that he could transform after fusing? Is this statement incompatible with a 50x multiplier for SSJ without Gotenks getting ridiculously stronger from training for the equivalent of I believe a couple of weeks?

I guess we can handwave it to Goten and Trunks having higher growth rates than Gohan (maybe due to being conceived when their fathers had already attained SSJ) and so gaining a ton more from the ROSAT. Or maybe, like Goku/Gohan training together as SSJ and making massive gains due to the strain of the state, training while as Gotenks made them much stronger. It's also possible that fusion is a nonlinear gain (maybe something like [2x]^2), so they don't need to be dozens of times stronger than Goku/Vegeta/Gohan while they are all in base states.

[Analytical Delusion]

It's probably been addressed here before, but how do you guys deal with that comment by Piccolo in the ROSAT about Gotenks having a chance in base state, without knowing at the time that he could transform after fusing?

Easiest hand-wave answer is that he's just desperate for hope and overreacting. But a better answer I've taken a liking to is that he may have expected them to go Super Saiyan, become disheartened when they didn't and it appeared they couldn't, and then became optimistic again when they revealed they could.

I guess it's also possible that he had already decided that he was going to blow up the door at that point, so maybe he was acting out of character.

Maybe he also figured "Hey, they're so strong now, and they escaped from the original [Fat] Buu. He's much stronger now, maybe if somehow Gotenks can survive, or if we can trick [the current, Super] Buu into letting the fusion run out, Goten and Trunks can turn Super Saiyan and re-fuse, and we'll have a shot!". Typing that out actually, it doesn't seem like the worst idea.

[Analytical Delusion]

Except they have to wait an hour in between fusions.

Right, but you don't think Buu would be willing to wait? He was impatient at that point for the most part, but had he known that they'd be significantly stronger, maybe he'd be willing to wait longer.

(Just trying to justify it in-universe. Realistically it was probably a throw-away statement.)

[Angelus]

Your estimates of the Buu Arc base Saiyans' power levels?

[Angelus]

Which villains are slightly more powerful than 1/3rd of Buu Saga SSJ Goku? Based off your estimates.

How many times more powerful was SSJ Vegeta during the 25th WMAT compared to his ASSJ Post-1st day ROSAT self? Pre-Majin of course.

[Angelus]

Quoting you so you hopefully get the notification... I merged your two threads here into the Fan-Made Power Levels thread. Questions like the ones you're asking here are based entirely on people's own self-crafted figures, and belong here more so than as standalone topics in the In-Universe section.

Oh, no problem!

[apex_pretador]

I've calculated PLs from manga & anime into consideration, with the following points in mind:

Spoiler:

Manga >> Anime >>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
Filler sagas not included via being filler
No movies, no guidebooks
Scouter numbers are given preference.
A person needs atleast 30% advantage to 1-shot / curbstomp.
According to BoG, frieza > base goku significantly
Buu saga is filled with inconsistency, so it may have some errors.
Only assumption is about frieza full power, all others are observations.
Power levels based on manga & anime only:

This is a list prepared while focusing on manga & anime only. Some are theoretical numbers that are deduced by scenarios. Highest official power level is 1 million for frieza second form. (Assumption is that frieza has 120 mil FP.)

Raditz arc:

Spoiler:

Goku - 416
Piccolo - 408
Gohan - 1 (701) ((1307))
Raditz - 1310 (fully healthy & fit on earth)
Krillin - 206
Tien - 250
Yamcha - 177

Vegeta arc:

Spoiler:

Saibaman - 1200
Krillin - 1083 (1750)
Tien - 1108 (1850)
Piccolo - 1220 (2600)
Gohan - 981 ((2800))
Nappa - 5460 , post goku arrival 5201
Goku - 5000 (8180), KK - 11000
Vegeta - 18000 , galick gun - 18600, damaged & lost beam struggle - 6800
Goku - 8180, KK x2 16360, some damage taken - 7016
Goku - 7016, KK x3 21048 (theoritical) , 18870 (real, due to not perfecting) 19200 (kamehameha) , KK x4 kamehameha - 25600
Vegeta - Energy used in ki ball - 5600, great ape - 56000,
Goku - post KK 5700, dropping

Namek - Frieza arc:

Spoiler:

Goku - 90,000, KK can be directly multiplied upto 10x
Krillin - 1560 , post powerup 13,000 & rising , frieza fight over 75,000
Gohan - 1600, post powerup 14060 & rising, frieza fight over 130,000 , enraged 1,800,000
Vegeta - 24,000 , post zenkai 30,000 , frieza fight - 400,000 , final zenkai - 1.8 million
Nail - 42,000
Ginyu force - 39,000 for 3 important members, guldo 7,000
Ginyu - 120,000
Namekians - 3000
Dodoria - 22000
Zarbon - 23,100 , transformed - 34,000
Piccolo - 96,000 , post fusion - 1,200,000
Yamcha - 42,000 (anime,)
Tien - 57,000 (anime)
Chiatzu - 7550 (anime)
Frieza - 530,000 , 1,020,800 , 1,800,000 , 2,500,000 , 60,000,000 , 120,000,000 (All theoritical, at full power)
Frieza (levels just before transforming) - 520,000 , 910,000 , 1,650,000 , 2,200,000 , 36,000,000 , 78,000,000 (100%) , 60,000,000 (due to strain on weak body)
Goku - 2 million (legendary zenkai) , 38 mil (KK 20x) , 49 mil (kamehameha 20x) , 4 mil (another zenkai due to SS transformation) , SS goku - 80,000,000 & increasing with pure rage

Androids arc:

Spoiler:

Future trunks - 5 , 3.8 mil , 76,000,000 (SS)
King cold - 40 mil (possibly he's more)
Mecha frieza - 44 mil (possibly he's more)
Vegeta - 3 mil
Piccolo - 3 mil
Goku - 4.5 mil , 90 mil (SS)
Gohan - 1.3 mil, increases when enraged
Krillin - 600,000
Tien - 400,000
Yamcha - 100,000
Chiatzu - 22,000

POST TRAINING:

Spoiler:

Goku - 6 mil , 120 mil (SS, max) , 23 mil & dropping rapidly (heart virus)
#19 - 34 mil , post vegeta absorption 66 mil
Vegeta - 5.9 mil , 118 mil (SS) , post absorption 86 mil , post finishing move 68 mil, blasted #20 - 60 mil
#20 - 58 mil, absorbed vegeta's blast 64 mil , absorbed piccolo's power 66 mil
Piccolo - 50 million, Full power 78 million, post fusion 133,000,970 (vs 17) , 135 mil (full power)
Trunks - 5.8 mil , 116 mil (SS)
Krillin - 1.25 million
Tien - 1 million nearly, mastered to improve his power in short burst
Yamcha - 240,000.
Gohan - 6 million
# 17 - 133,000,000
# 18 - 130,000,000
# 16 - 152,000,000

From now, k = 1000x , M = million will be used due to high PLs

HTC = hyperbolic time chamber

Cell arc:

Spoiler:

Cell - 125 M, people absorbed 152 M
Piccolo (fused) - 135,000,000 , post HTC 400 M
Semiperfect cell - initial - 200 M, FP - 250 M
Tien - 1,000,004 , Tri-beam 100x till death
Super vegeta - 270 M, base 9 M , post HTC 450 M (SS)
Super trunks - 268 M, base 9 M , USS bulky form - 320 M (speed low, power high) , post HTC 449 M (SS)
Perfect cell - 310 M (initial) , 502 M vs goku , 750 M full power, 850 M super perfect
Goku - 12.5 M , 500 M (FP SS)
Gohan - 13 M , 520 M (FP SS) , 975 M (SS2 at full health)
Cell Jr - 453 M

Since everone is in millions, M will be skipped. So, PLs are in 1 million units now on.


Buu arc:

Spoiler:

Goku - SS2 990 , SS3 1980, base 13.2
Vegeta - SS2 majin 990 , base 13.2
Piccolo - 580
Gohan - 750 (SS2)
Dabura - 750
Kaioshin - 620 , post fusion 1320
Gotenks - 1200 (SS) , post training 2000(SS) , 3600 (SS3)

BUU

Spoiler:

Fat buu - Varies from 1200 to 1600
Grey evil buu - 1600
Good buu - 1400
Super buu - 3000 ,3200 (piccolo) , 4400 (gotenks), 3200 (kids defuse), 4500 (gohan) , 1100 (sparring with base vegitto) ( anime only )
Kid buu - 2400, FP 2460, Buff buu - 4500
Mr buu - 2100
Mr satan - 15 (exact)
Dende - 127 (exact)
Tien - 1
Krillin - 1
Ultimate gohan - 3900
Vegitto - 1100 , Super vegitto 33,000 at max (((Hypothetical SS3 vegitto 165,000)))
{{Gogeta (hypothetical) - 810 , super gogeta 24,300 , SS3 gogeta 121,500}}

Goku - 2300 (vs kid buu ss3 full power), 5000 (spirit bomb launched)

DBS


BoG arc:

Spoiler:

Ultimate gohan - 3900
Buu - 2200
Goku SS3 - 3600, base 24
Vegeta - base 30, SS2 2250, enraged 22500 (for a moment only)
Piccolo - 696
Gotenks SS3 - 3700
Beerus less than 1% - over 300,000, possible 100% - over 60,000,000 (estimate), 40,080,000 (vs goku)
God goku - SSG 40,000,000 , Base 360,000 , SS 18,000,000
Humans - all less than 1

Golden frieza arc (super):

Spoiler:

Base goku (pre training) - 360,000 , Pre frieza's arrival - 3,000,000
Base vegeta (when goku arrived) - 500,000 , Pre frieza arrival - 3,100,000
Whis - Much over 100,000,000
Beerus - Over 80,000,000
Tagoma - 45,000 (exact , pre training)
Frieza - 530,000 (exact, pre training)
Shisami - Below 5
Roshi - 2000 (exact)
Humans - 0.6
Gotenks - 3000
Gohan - 12 (suppressed, base)
Piccolo - 15 (suppressed)
Gohan - 700 , SS 3200, enraged 3500
Piccolo - 600 (clothes) , 720 FP
Tagoma - 800, ginyu changed - 1000 FP
Frieza - 4000 (1st form), 16,000,000 (final form)
Goku - 16,000,000, FP - 20,000,000, SSB - 60,000,000
Vegeta - 20,000,001

More edits will likely be made with DB super progressing.

Transformation guide:

Spoiler:

Great ape - 10x saiyan power level
Super saiyan - 20x
Super/ascended SS - 30x
FP SS - 40x
SS 2 - 75X
SS 3 - 150x
SS blue - 3x
SS (post BoG) - no multiplier, power up to best

Fusion guide:

Spoiler:

Buu fusion = A + B/3
Potara fusion (Vegetto) = (Goku + Vegeta) x 40
Dance fusion (Gogeta) = (Vegeta) x 60
Vegitto > Gogeta at equal PLs
Dance fusion (Gotenks) = (Trunks) x 20
Namekian fusion = { A + B (max potential) } x 8
Namekain refusion / completing
For king piccolo & kami - (A+B) x 40
For piccolo Jr & kami
Before king kai - (A+B) x 10
After king kai , before nail - (A + B) x 4
After nail , anytime in his life - (A + B) x 2

Key symbols
A = base / stronger fusee
B = absorbed / weaker fusee

DRAGON BALL

A try for pre Z power levels.

I'll go on a reverse approach, i.e. stronger to weaker.

Dragon ball:

Piccolo Jr saga:

Spoiler:

Kami - 230
Piccolo Jr - 235, giant form 250
Goku - 240, 200 (w clothes)
Tien - 200
Yamcha - 148
Krillin - 180
Tao - 140
Chiatzu - 115
Goku (pre training, post zenkai) 195

King piccolo saga:

Spoiler:

Goku (FP) - 180 (zenkai)
King piccolo - 173 (young), 157 (old)
Drum - 165
Tien - 135
Goku - 150 (Zenkai , vs old piccolo) , 119 (weakened vs tien)
Tamburine - 135
Yajirobe - 150

Tien saga:

Spoiler:

Goku (FP) 135
Tien 135
Krillin - 115
Roshi - 133
Chiatzu - 100
Yamcha - 110

Fortuneteller Baba Saga:

Spoiler:

Gohan 90
Goku 91
Devilman 72
Bandaged fighter 72
Yamcha 62
Invisible man 53
Krillin 65

Encounter with RRA:

Spoiler:

Goku (post training) 90
Tao 80
Goku (pre) 72
General blue 70
Krillin 65

21 WMA tournament:

Spoiler:

Goku 70 (FP) , 50 (drained & weakened) , 500 (great ape)
Nam 68
Krillin 65
Yamcha 60
Roshi - holding back to opponents' level

As a reference, I have goku BoDB at 15.

Movie / GT power level list

Spoiler:

This is a continuation of DBZ power levels by me

The movies & GT have a llot of plotholes, so are hard to rate, but I'll try my best. This follows the same scheme from my previous thread list. However, all them are alternate timelines, slightly different from main one.

The tree of might:
Timeline : Takes place when goku has defeated both nappa & vegeta and killed them and all his friends are alive. They train & become strong.

Spoiler:

Goku - 30,000, KK x10 - 290,000
Piccolo - 18,000
Gohan - 10,000
Turles - 24,000 , post fruit 300,000 , 2nd fruit 500,000

Lord slug

Timeline: Goku has defeated all the evil saiyans in last movie, so he didn't go to namek. So, no frieza fight. However, all the Z fighters train, & about 1.5 years later, slug arrives.

Spoiler:

Slug - 1,000,000 , giant form - 1,500,000
Goku - 50,000 , KK x20 - 980,000 ,SS - 1,250,000
Piccolo - 100,000

Cooler's revenge

Timeline : Goku arrives on earth after learning IT by sensing his friends. So, he's not trained for full year on yadrat. No KC & mecha frieza arrived here. But goku was much stronger than he was in original timeline by training with friends.

Spoiler:

Salza / sauza - 4 million, others - irrelevent
Gohan - 500,000
Krillin - 230,000
Piccolo - 4,090,000
Goku - 8 million, SS 160 mil
Cooler - Base 7,960,000, new form 110,000,000 (stronger than weakened frieza)
(too bad cooler, after years of training, & even getting a new form & full control, you couldn't surpass your little bro)
Note: cooler compared to frieza depends on personal choice. You can also have him at 130 M

Meta cooler is not taken into consideration due to being difficult to rate.

Super android 13:
Timeline : Hard to tell, but it is safe to say that this takes place before HTC training, but after goku's recovery. So, everyone is as strong as they were before HTC training. Kami fusion hasn't taken place

Spoiler:

Goku - 6 mil, SS 120 mil
Vegeta - 5.9 mil, SS 118 mil
Trunks - 5.8 mil, SS 116 mil
Piccolo - 68 million
Android 15 - 10 mil - 30 mil
Android 14 - 10 mil - 30 mil
Android 13 - 20 mil - 75 mil, Post absorption - 140 mil - 160 mil

Broly, The LEGENDARY super saiyan:
Timeline: This is the only movie till now which can fit nearly perfectly in the original canon. It takes place before the training of goku & gohan is complete in HTC. So, Goku is FP SS, gohan & others are in ascended form.

Spoiler:

Goku - 10 mil, SS 400 mil , super punch - 600 mil
Vegeta - 10 mil, SS 300 mil
Gohan - 9 mil, SS 270 mil
Trunks - 9.6 mil, SS 288 mil
Piccolo - 150 million
Broly - 11 mil, SS - 440mil , Legendary SS - 560 mil (initial) , 600 mil (at peak) , 540 mil (before end)
Note : Broly's power increases with rage & requirement, but his limit wasn't seen here. Simply put, he gets stronger if he is angry & needs power to overcome his opposition, the meaning of his LSS state.

Bojack :
Timeline : Takes place after 8-9 months of cell's defeat. Gohan is about as strong as he was in cell games, due to zenkai boost, & slacking off.

Spoiler:

Piccolo - 440 mil
Vegeta - 476 mil
Gohan - 500 mil, SS2 940 mil
Trunks - 460 mil
Bojack - 520 mil, Super form 780 mil
others - irrelevent

Second coming of broly
Timeline : This movie happens before buu saga, but in the time skip. However, it is not too close to buu saga, seeing goku isn't in SS3 form. But goten & trunks are much stronger here than in canon.

Spoiler:

Gohan - 400 mil (SS), 750 mil (SS2) , Family kamehameha - 1020 mil
Goten, trunks - 160 mil (SS)
Broly - SS - 520 mil, LSS - 750 mil, & still increasing
Broly - 1015 mil at max before pushed to sun
This makes broly the strongest character below fat buu, but above majin vegeta. He's the strongest movie villain till now.

Bio broly is skipped due to being ridiculous.

Fusion reborn

Timeline : Goku defeats fat buu in his SS3 form in this timeline, then goes back being into afterlife, while vegeta is dead too. So, janemba fights him after death of fat buu.

Spoiler:

Vegeta - 980 mil SS2
Goku - 980 mil (SS2), 2200 mil (SS3)
Pikkon - 1000 mil
Janemba - Fat form - 1300 mil , Super form - 2600 mil
Gogeta - Super gogeta - 10,000 million
SS3 goku has a higher power multiplier here due to being dead. Gogeta is the strongest ever character to appear in a movie by a large margin before god thing.

Wrath of dragon

Timeline: It takes place sometime after kid buu's defeat. In this timeline, Goku trains very hard, & becomes even stronger than SS3 gotenks in his SS3 form. Gohan in his ultimate form is much weaker in this movie.

Spoiler:

Ultimate gohan - 2200 mil
Gotenks SS3 - 3200 mil
Vegeta SS2 - 2400 mil
Goku SS2 - 2400 mil, SS3 - 4800 mil. Dragon attack - 6000 mil.
Hirudegarn - First form 3160 mil, second form 5000 mil
Hirudegarn is the strongest movie villain till now, even before transformation. After transforming, he's stronger than gohan buu. Ultimate gohan is nerfed in this movie.

So, movies are over. Now, it is time to rate GT.

GT

All initially in million, unless specified.

Spoiler:

Goku - base 4000, SS3 20,000 (Adult)
Goten - 18 , SS 360
Gohan - 350 , SS 3100
Piccolo - 800
Vegeta - 400, SS - 8000 ,
Kid Goku - base 3200, SS3 8000
Super baby vegeta - 40,000 , SBV 2 - 80,000, GGA 160,000
UUB - 4,000, majuub - 80,000
Kid Goku (tail) - SS3 60,000 , GGA - 180,000, SS4 180,000
_____________________________________
Super 17 - 120,000 (initial) & increasing by absorption.
Vegeta - 80,000 (SS)
Goku - 120,000 (SS), 190,000 (SS4)

Shadow dragon arc:

Spoiler:

Goku - SS4 200,000 , sprit bomb blast - 4,000,000
Nuova shenron - 200,000
Eis shenron - 160,000
Syn shenron - 165,000
Omega shenron - 1,650,000
Vegeta SS4 - 200,000
SS4 gogeta - 4,000,000

So, here I end.

[apex_pretador]

Interesting list, bro! But I think you could organize them in a better way using spoiler tags

Good Idea

Roshi - 2000 (exact)
Gotenks - 3000
Gohan - 600 , SS 3600
Piccolo - 600 (clothes) , 720

I assume you meant to put "200" here.

Nope. He got a little bit stronger due to training with krillin for android wait.

[apex_pretador]

Nope. He got a little bit stronger due to training with krillin for android wait.

"A little bit stronger" puts Roshi being two-thirds as strong as Gotenks, and stronger than Gohan and Piccolo combined?

He's stronger than raditz

Nope. He got a little bit stronger due to training with krillin for android wait.

Then he's stronger than Piccolo and Tagoma/Ginyu??

Exact means exact in units, not million units

Most of the other numbers on his list are in units of millions, to cut down on zeroes. So I think by the "exact" next to Muten Roshi's number, he means Roshi's PL is actually exactly 2,000 while the others are in the hundreds of millions or billions.

thanks, I meant this.

[apex_pretador]

Movie / GT power level list
This is a continuation of DBZ power levels by me

The movies & GT have a llot of plotholes, so are hard to rate, but I'll try my best. This follows the same scheme from my previous thread list. However, all them are alternate timelines, slightly different from main one.

The tree of might:
Timeline : Takes place when goku has defeated both nappa & vegeta and killed them and all his friends are alive. They train & become strong.

Spoiler:

Goku - 30,000, KK x10 - 290,000
Piccolo - 18,000
Gohan - 10,000
Turles - 24,000 , post fruit 300,000 , 2nd fruit 500,000

Lord slug

Timeline: Goku has defeated all the evil saiyans in last movie, so he didn't go to namek. So, no frieza fight. However, all the Z fighters train, & about 1.5 years later, slug arrives.

Spoiler:

Slug - 1,000,000 , giant form - 1,500,000
Goku - 50,000 , KK x20 - 980,000 ,SS - 1,250,000
Piccolo - 100,000

Cooler's revenge

Timeline : Goku arrives on earth after learning IT by sensing his friends. So, he's not trained for full year on yadrat. No KC & mecha frieza arrived here. But goku was much stronger than he was in original timeline by training with friends.

Spoiler:

Salza / sauza - 4 million, others - irrelevent
Gohan - 500,000
Krillin - 230,000
Piccolo - 4,090,000
Goku - 8 million, SS 160 mil
Cooler - Base 7,960,000, new form 110,000,000 (stronger than weakened frieza)
(too bad cooler, after years of training, & even getting a new form & full control, you couldn't surpass your little bro)
Note: cooler compared to frieza depends on personal choice. You can also have him at 130 M

Meta cooler is not taken into consideration due to being difficult to rate.

Super android 13:
Timeline : Hard to tell, but it is safe to say that this takes place before HTC training, but after goku's recovery. So, everyone is as strong as they were before HTC training. Kami fusion hasn't taken place

Spoiler:

Goku - 6 mil, SS 120 mil
Vegeta - 5.9 mil, SS 118 mil
Trunks - 5.8 mil, SS 116 mil
Piccolo - 68 million
Android 15 - 10 mil - 30 mil
Android 14 - 10 mil - 30 mil
Android 13 - 20 mil - 75 mil, Post absorption - 140 mil - 160 mil

Broly, The LEGENDARY super saiyan:
Timeline: This is the only movie till now which can fit nearly perfectly in the original canon. It takes place before the training of goku & gohan is complete in HTC. So, Goku is FP SS, gohan & others are in ascended form.

Spoiler:

Goku - 10 mil, SS 400 mil , super punch - 600 mil
Vegeta - 10 mil, SS 300 mil
Gohan - 9 mil, SS 270 mil
Trunks - 9.6 mil, SS 288 mil
Piccolo - 150 million
Broly - 11 mil, SS - 440mil , Legendary SS - 560 mil (initial) , 600 mil (at peak) , 540 mil (before end)
Note : Broly's power increases with rage & requirement, but his limit wasn't seen here. Simply put, he gets stronger if he is angry & needs power to overcome his opposition, the meaning of his LSS state.

Bojack :
Timeline : Takes place after 8-9 months of cell's defeat. Gohan is about as strong as he was in cell games, due to zenkai boost, & slacking off.

Spoiler:

Piccolo - 440 mil
Vegeta - 476 mil
Gohan - 500 mil, SS2 940 mil
Trunks - 460 mil
Bojack - 520 mil, Super form 780 mil
others - irrelevent

Second coming of broly
Timeline : This movie happens before buu saga, but in the time skip. However, it is not too close to buu saga, seeing goku isn't in SS3 form. But goten & trunks are much stronger here than in canon.

Spoiler:

Gohan - 400 mil (SS), 750 mil (SS2) , Family kamehameha - 1020 mil
Goten, trunks - 160 mil (SS)
Broly - SS - 520 mil, LSS - 750 mil, & still increasing
Broly - 1015 mil at max before pushed to sun
This makes broly the strongest character below fat buu, but above majin vegeta. He's the strongest movie villain till now.

Bio broly is skipped due to being ridiculous.

Fusion reborn

Timeline : Goku defeats fat buu in his SS3 form in this timeline, then goes back being into afterlife, while vegeta is dead too. So, janemba fights him after death of fat buu.

Spoiler:

Vegeta - 980 mil SS2
Goku - 980 mil (SS2), 2200 mil (SS3)
Pikkon - 1000 mil
Janemba - Fat form - 1300 mil , Super form - 2600 mil
Gogeta - Super gogeta - 10,000 million
SS3 goku has a higher power multiplier here due to being dead. Gogeta is the strongest ever character to appear in a movie by a large margin before god thing.

Wrath of dragon

Timeline: It takes place sometime after kid buu's defeat. In this timeline, Goku trains very hard, & becomes even stronger than SS3 gotenks in his SS3 form. Gohan in his ultimate form is much weaker in this movie.

Spoiler:

Ultimate gohan - 2200 mil
Gotenks SS3 - 3200 mil
Vegeta SS2 - 2400 mil
Goku SS2 - 2400 mil, SS3 - 4800 mil. Dragon attack - 6000 mil.
Hirudegarn - First form 3160 mil, second form 5000 mil
Hirudegarn is the strongest movie villain till now, even before transformation. After transforming, he's stronger than gohan buu. Ultimate gohan is nerfed in this movie.

So, movies are over. Now, it is time to rate GT.

GT

All initially in million, unless specified.

Spoiler:

Rildo - 2500 base
Goku - base 2500 , SS 25,000, SS3 100,000 at peak
Goten - 18 , SS 360
Gohan - 300 , SS 3000
Piccolo - 800
Vegeta - 200, SS - 8000 , Super baby vegeta - 80,000 , SBV 2 - 120,000, GGA 240,000
Vegeta post fight 400, SS2 30,000
UUB - 10,000, majuub - 100,000
Goku - 1100 , SS 22,000 , SS3 110,000 , GGA - 220,000, SS4 225,000
Super 17 - 50,000 (initial) & increasing by absorption.

Shadow dragon arc:

Spoiler:

Goku - 1250, SS4 250,000 , weakened - 200,000, sprit bomb blast - 4,000,000
Nuova shenron - 220,000
Eis shenron - 180,000
Syn shenron - 225,000
Omega shenron - 2,250,000
Vegeta - 600, SS4 - 240,000
SS4 gogeta - 10,000,000

So, here I end.

Multiplier :

SS = 10x for goku & gohan (mastered a lot of power in base)

Vegeta still uses 40x, while goten is still on 20x

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Solid list there. Just 2 problems I have.
- Salza seems too close to Piccolo, since Piccolo had the upper hand for most of the fight.
- In the GT list, Gohan is at 300, while Vegeta starts off at 200. Shouldn't Vegeta be much stronger than Gohan due to his intense training?

Good points. my explanaion:
Salza was the only one who gave piccolo problems. With piccolo's skill being nearly perfect , salza has to be very near him to even give him problems.
On vegeta & gohan , well , GT is ... GT. It is possible that this is due to ultimate / mystic power-up of gohan that still retains some strength in his base.

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Grouping the characters into tiers:

Just like PL lists, many tier lists have been made here. I'll just throw in mine too, based on my PL list:

1 to 5

Spoiler:

1. Human level:

Bulma
Farmer
"normal" humans

2. Nearly Superhuman level:

Satan
BoDB Goku
BoDB Krillin
BoDB Yamcha
Videl
Dende (pre potential unlock)

3. High Superhuman level:

21 WMAT Krillin
21 WMAT Yamcha
Invisible man
Nam

4. Post Roshi Goku level

21 WMAT Goku
General blue
Bandaged fighter

5. Tao level

Tao
Chiatzu initial appearance
Devilman

6-13

Spoiler:

6. Post karin goku level

Goku (post karin)
22 WMAT chiatzu
Gohan
Crane hermit

7. 22 WMAT level

Krillin
Yamcha
Cymbal
23 WMAT chiatzu
21 WMAT FP roshi

8. Master roshi level

Roshi
22 WMAT Tien
22 WMAT goku
Cyborg Tao
Tambourine
Dende (buu arc)

9. Yajirobe level

Yajirobe
Goku (vs yajirobe)
Old king piccolo
Yamcha 23 WMAT
BoZ Chiatzu
Drum

10. King piccolo level

King piccolo young
Goku (pre kami)
Yamcha BoZ
Krillin 23 WMAT
Tien 23 WMAT


11. Kami level

Kami
Popo EoDB
Piccolo Jr
Krillin BoZ
Tenshinhan BoZ
Peak canon Yajirobe??

12. BoZ level

Goku BoZ
Piccolo BoZ
Peak canon Yajirobe??

13. Below raditz level

Gohan , angry in pod
Gohan vs nappa
Chiatzu vs nappa

14-22

Spoiler:

14. Raditz level

Raditz
Very angry gohan
Yamcha post kami
Saibamen

15. Above raditz level

Krillin vs nappa
Tien vs nappa
Gohan masenko
Piccolo vs nappa
Namek farmers
RoF roshi

16. Under 9000

Nappa (fully calm and focused)
Goku post kai
Appule
Posi kai chiatzu
Guldo

17. Over 9000

KK goku
Krillin post guru
gohan post guru
Pre split piccolo/kami
Ozaru raditz

18. Prince level

Vegeta (first arrival)
KKx3 , KKx4 Goku
Cui
Peak canon chiatzu

19. Zarbon-dodoria level

Dodoria
Zarbon
Tagoma (pre)
Vegeta (on namek)
Ginyu in goku

20. Monster Zarbon level

Monster Zarbon
Vegeta (vs recoome)

21. Ginyu force level

Recoome
Jeece
Butta
Nail
Yamcha (king kai)

22. Cap. ginyu level

Namek goku
Piccolo (pre nail)
Ginyu
Pui pui???
Krillin (vs freeza)
Gohan (vs freeza)

23-28

Spoiler:

23. First form level

Freeza 1st form
Vegeta (vs freeza)
Peak canon yamcha

24. Low millions level

2nd form freeza
3rd form freeza
4th form freeza (pre powerup)
Piccolo X nail
Vegeta (pre death)
Enraged gohan
Base Goku
Base trunks
Peak canon tien
Peak canon Krillin

25. Strong base saiyans

Base saiyans (androids arc)
Base saiyans (cell arc / buu arc)
Kibito???

26. BoG base goku level

Base goku (BoG)
Base Vegeta (BoG)
25% freeza
#19 (initial)
KK x10 goku (vs freeza)
Post sprit bomb freeza
Yakon

27. 50% level

#19 post
Gero
Piccolo (vs gero)
50% freeza
Mecha freeza
King cold
70% freeza (on namek)
100% freeza (on namek, post stamina issue)
KK x20 goku

28. 100% freeza level

100% freeza
SS trunks
SS goku
SS vegeta
SS gohan (initial)

29 to 40

Spoiler:

29. Kamiccolo level

Piccolo x kami
#17
#18
Imperfect cell

30. #16 level

Imperfect cell post
#16

31. Semi cell level

Semi perfect cell
Initial ASS goku

32. Super vegeta level

Super vegeta
Super trunks
50% CG goku
Initial USS goku

33. Initial PC level

Initial PC
USS trunks
CG piccolo

34. Cell Jr level

Cell Jr
CG trunks
CG vegeta

35. FPSS level

FPSS goku
FPSS gohan
Suppressed cell
Weighted piccolo (buu arc)
Buu arc vegeta

36. Cell level

Perfect cell
Dabura
Peak canon piccolo
Base gohan DBS
SS2 gohan (buu arc)

37. SS2 level

CG SS2 gohan
SPC
Majin vegeta
SS2 goku
Tagoma???
Base vegetto???

38. Fat buu level

Fat buu
Evil grey buu
SS gotenks (pre)
Kibitoshin

39. SS3 level

SS gotenks (post)
SS3 gotenks
SS3 goku
Ultimate gohan
SS gohan DBS
Mr buu
Kid buu
Super buu

40. Buuhan level

Gotenks Buu
Gohan buu
1st form freeza DBS???

41 to 48

Spoiler:

41. Super vegetto level

Super vegetto
Enraged SS2 vegeta DBS

42. SS3 vegetto level

Highly suppressed beerus
Base post god goku???

43. Beyond god level

Final form freeza
(SS4?)
Base god goku
Base god vegeta

44. SS4 gogeta level

SS goku (vs beerus)

45. SSG level

SSG goku

46. SSB level

SSB goku
SSB vegeta
Gold freeza
Mystery guy

47. God of destruction level

Beerus
champa

48. WHAT? level

Whis
Vados

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How strong you guys have Base Vegetto?

I don't consider his strength in the anime, where he fights Boo-han without transforming, so I see him at least above a SSJ2-tier, what you think?

A power level twice as strong as Gohan-absorbed Boo (at least), divided by 50, leaves base Vegetto in the same realm of power as the Super Saiyan 2s for me.

A power level twice as strong as Gohan-absorbed Boo (at least), divided by 50, leaves base Vegetto in the same realm of power as the Super Saiyan 2s for me.

Pretty much this. I have Vegetto exactly as strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku.

I agree with these.
I have him a hair above majin vegeta in base, and 6 - 8 times stronger than buuhan in SS form.

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Since it's been a LOOOOONG time since I updated my list (and a lot has happened in DB since), I'm gonna show my new updated list, but will give it out in different Arcs bit by bit for feedback purposes starting with the Cell Arc.

Cell Arc:

Trunks Saga:

• Spoiler:

  Goku (Base): 3,300,000
  SSJ: 165,000,000
  
  Future Trunks (Base): 3,200,000
  SSJ: 160,000,000
  
  Freeza (Mecha/70%): 98,000,000
  (Full Power: 140,000,000)
  
  King Cold: 90,000,000
  
  Vegeta: 2,500,000
  Piccolo (Full Power): 2,400,000
  Gohan: 640,000
  
  Krillin: 240,000
  Tenshinhan: 180,000
  Yamcha: 144,000
  Chaozu: 36,000

Androids Saga:

• Spoiler:

  Gohan: 3,200,000
  Krillin: 1,200,000
  Tenshinhan: 900,000
  Yamcha: 720,000
  (Chaozu: 120,000)
  
  Goku (Base): 4,400,000
  SSJ (Sick): 170,000,000 and Decreasing
  SSJ Goku (Sick/Energy Drained): 90,000,000 and Decreasing
  SSJ (Healthy): 220,000,000
  
  Vegeta (Base): 4,500,000
  SSJ: 225,000,000
  
  Future Trunks (Base): 4,000,000
  SSJ: 200,000,000
  
  Piccolo (Suppressed/Weighted): 18,000,000
  Piccolo (Full Power): 180,000,000
  
  Android 19 (Pre-Absorption): 60,000,000
  Android 19 (Post-Absorption): 140,000,000
  
  Android 20 (Pre-Absorption): 75,000,000
  Android 20 (Post-Absorption): 120,000,000
  
  Android 17: 270,000,000
  Android 18: 264,000,000

Imperfect Cell Saga:

• Spoiler:

  Cell (Imperfect/Gingertown): 225,000,000
  
  Piccolo (Kami/Weighted*): 243,000,000
  Piccolo (Kami/Full Power): 270,000,000
  Piccolo (Kami/Weakened): 256,500,000
  (Light Grenade): 342,000,000
  
  Android 17: 270,000,000
  Android 18: 264,000,000
  
  Android 16: 360,000,000
  
  Cell (Imperfect/Humans Absorbed): 360,000,000

Perfect Cell Saga:

• Spoiler:

  Cell (Semi-Perfect/Suppressed): 400,000,000
  Cell(Semi-Perfect/Full Power): 480,000,000 (Used Against Android 16)
  
  Vegeta (Base): 10,000,000
  SSJ: 500,000,000
  SSJ (Grade 2): 600,000,000
  (Final Flash): 900,000,000
  
  Future Trunks (Base): 9,600,000
  SSJ: 480,000,000
  SSJ (Grade 2): 576,000,000
  SSJ (Grade 3): 960,000,000
  
  Cell (Perfect/Suppressed): 800,000,000
  Cell (Perfect/Bulked Up/Suppressed): 1,000,000,000

Cell Games:

• Spoiler:

  Goku (Base): 24,000,000
  SSJ (Around Half): 660,000,000
  SSJ (Full Power): 1,200,000,000
  SSJ (Weakened): 480,000,000
  
  Vegeta (Base): 19,200,000
  SSJ: 960,000,000
  
  Future Trunks (Base): 18,000,000
  SSJ: 900,000,000
  
  Piccolo (Weighted): 675,000,000
  Piccolo (Full Power): 720,000,000
  
  Gohan (Base): 30,000,000
  SSJ: 1,500,000,000
  SSJ2 (Enraged): 3,600,000,000
  
  Cell (Perfect/Suppressed against Goku): 1,440,000,000 (Same against Gohan but w/ Full Speed)
  Cell (Perfect/Full Power): 2,400,000,000
  Cell (Perfect/Bulked Up): 3,000,000,000
  Cell (Super Perfect): 3,600,000,000
  
  Cell Jr. (7): 1,000,000,000

Trunks' Time:

• Spoiler:

  Future Trunks (Base): 18,000,000
  SSJ: 900,000,000
  
  Future Android 17: 225,000,000
  Future Android 18: 220,000,000
  
  (3 Years Later)
  
  Future Trunks (Base): 19,200,000
  SSJ: 960,000,000
  
  Future Cell (Imperfect): 288,000,000

Your list is really good. I only have a few issues:
1. #18 should not be that high. She was supposed to unable to handle both SS at same time.
2. I think imperfect cell post is a bit too high.
3. Vegeta / trunks in CG must be higher than bulky trunks.
Great work btw.