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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:45 am

Darkron2151 wrote:
  • 1. Correction. She's unable to handle 2 Super Saiyans, a Namekian who's power is comparable to a Super Saiyan, and humans for support. Big difference there. Plus, I don't have her that much higher than Vegeta. She's not even 20% stronger IMO.

    2. Really? Some would say I have him too low given I took the minimalist route with gap between him and Piccolo. :mrgreen:

    3. Why is that? CG Vegeta was confident that he was stronger than the Suppressed Perfect Cell that beat him and "Around Half" SSJ Goku. He never witnessed Trunks going Grade 3, and even if he did, he knows that that form is extremely inefficient in battle so he probably wouldn't care.
*EDIT: Bumped up CG Piccolo a bit in previous list.*
1. OK. I see the % difference is not very large here. My comment was based on the fact that I like to go on the lowest route (it is just my opinion).

2. Just like I said, I prefer less huge gaps in battles unless specified (personal preference).

3. I feel like he must have doubled his strength if he's so confident, and his last trip was him nearly 2.5x increase in a few hours, but this time, he got full day.

edit: it'll be interesting to see your buu arc list.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:55 am

Power level list for DB multiverse (fan manga):

Keys :-
k = 1000
M = million
Universe 1
South kaioshin - 2100 M

Universe 3
Bardock - Base - 3 M, SS - 60 M
Piccolo daimao - 100 k
Taipon -> Hirdugarn 3600 M (full power)

Universe 4
Zen buu - 400,000 M

Universe 5
XXI - ???

Universe 6
Bojack - 860 M

Universe 7
Gast carcolh - ???

Universe 8
Freeza - 120 M (100%)
King cold - 140 M (100%)
Cooler - 125 M (5th form)
Sauza - 2 M
Recoome - 40 k
Butta - 40 k
Jeece - 40 k

Universe 9
Krillin - 60 M
Yamcha - 100 M
Tien shinhan - 88 M

Universe 10
Vegeta - 30,000
Bardock - 10,000
Nail - 42,000

Universe 11
Dabura - 750 M
Buu - 2300 M

Universe 12
#16 - 156 M
Trunks - 40 M, SS - 1600 M, USS 3400 M

Universe 13
Vegeta - 30 M, SS 1200 M, SS2 2250 M, SS3 4500 M
Kakarotto - 10 M, SS 400 M, SS ozaru 4000 M
Nappa - 50 k ???
Raditz - 5 M

Universe 14
#17 - 95 M
#18 - 88 M , post repair - 130 M

Universe 16
Vegetto - 4000 M, SS - 160,000 M , SS2 - 300,000 M , SS3 - 600,000 M
Gotenks - 4500 M SS3
Bra - 1000 M, SS 40,000 M , SS2 75,000 M
Pan - 6 M, SS - 240 M

Universe 17
Cell - 4000 M FP

Universe 18
Goku - 50 M, SS - 2000 M, SS2 - 3750 M, SS3 - 7,500 M
Vegeta - 50 M, SS - 2000 M , SS2 - 3750 M
Uub - 50 M base
Pan - 2 M, SS 80 M
Gotenks - 4500 M SS3

Universe 20
Broly - maximum (lol :lol: )
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:11 am

Updated my list based on recent events in DBS:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 7#p1023817
Also improved my GT list.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:55 am

Blackstripe wrote:
Dragon Ball Power Levels by Blackstripe


Multipliers:
SSJ = 40x base
ASSJ = 1.5x SSJ
USSJ = 2x SSJ
MSSJ = 80x base
SSJ2 = 2x MSSJ
SSJ3 = 4x SSJ2
SSJG = 375,000x SSJ3/240,000,000x base
SSJB = 20x Beyond God
Dance Fusion = A+B x30
Potara Fusion = A+B x5,000

Dragon Ball

Dragon Ball Z

Dragon Ball Super

Bonus: GT Comparisons
Son Gokuu – 55,000,000,000
(MSSJ) – 4,400,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan 2) – 8,800,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan 3) – 35,200,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan 4) – 352,000,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan 4 far past his limits) – 720,000,000,000,000
(Hypothetical SSJ4 with Dragon Balls) – 7,200,000,000,000,000
Revived Perfect Cell – 32,500,000,000
Revived Freeza – 24,000,000,000
Super 17 – 600,000,000,000,000
Syn Shenron – 500,000,000,000,000
Omega Shenron – 5,000,000,000,000,000
SSJ4 Gogeta – 43,200,000,000,000,000 (Assuming SSJ4 Vegeta = past limits Gokuu, this is 1.44 quadrillion x30.)

Phew, what a workout. There you go. I'll update as more Super comes out.
The list seems fine. Just a few issues:
1. You are taking "I didn't even use my half power" statement too literally. The jumps from 22 to 23 WMAT are ridiculous for humans at least. Also, king piccolo is not a guy whose statements can be trusted.
2. The gains from roshi training are nearly nonexistent?
3. Roshi is too weak. He didn't train & was 139 in Z. He can't be magically become many times stronger in 8 years if wasn't even 40 before death. Also, 22 WMAT roshi must be MUCH stronger than gohan.

4. The DBZ list is excellent,atleast till cell games. But Yamcha should be much higher than 28 k in androids arc.

5. Piccolo must be LOT stronger in 7 year training. He trains everyday according to toriyama. The only indication on his power is that he was fodder to SS2. Also, he was confident in the tournament, even though he didn't know about "NO SS" idea. He also destroyed every camera so that no one except spectators can know about SS & remember cell games fighters.

6. Super saiyan 3 can't be 8x MSSJ, atleast not for gotenks. No way is SS gotenks 7x weaker than super buu. He was outclassed, yes, but not in a way that krillin was against raditz.

7. GT doesn't seem to follow the same power multipliers as DBZ.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:04 am

Darkron2151 wrote:Where do y'all have the following?:
  • (Buu Arc) Goku (SSJ3)
    (BoG) Goku (SSJ3)

    (Buu Arc) Evil Buu
    (Buu Arc) Gotenks (SSJ3)
    (Buu Arc) Gohan (Ultimate)

    (Buu Arc) Vegetto (Base)
    (Buu Arc) Vegetto (SSJ)
    (BoG) Vegetto (Base)
    (BoG) Vegetto (SSJ)
Buu arc SS3 goku - 2 billion, between fat buu & kid buu. Slightly above SS gotenks (post)
BoG SS3 goku - around twice his buu arc self, equal to SS3 gotenks, slightly below U gohan

Evil buu (I assume you mean super buu) = good buu + bad buu = 1.6x SS3 goku
Buu arc SS3 gotenks - 1.8x SS3 goku
U gohan - 2x SS3 goku.

Base vegetto = SS2 vegeta in both arcs
Super vegetto = less than 1% beerus in both arcs. About 8-10x buuhan in buu arc.




Noah wrote:So is really Kaioshin more powerful than Piccolo or not? I always had this doubt
He is, most likely according to what piccolo thinks. He also contained SS2 gohan, & performed better than him vs fat buu.
He also never thought that mortals can surpass him, even though he's sensed SS2 gohan & SS goku before.


In other words, no matter how strong is he, he is an idiot.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:44 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:list
I disagree with most your numbers. Anyways, it is okay as everyone has different opinions, so me & you can have different opinions.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:27 am

Darkron2151 wrote:I'm getting REALLY sick of this....but here it is. Another revised list :crazy: Here's Cell Arc, will do Buu Arc soon. I jacked up everyone's power a bit and fit them with the power gaps accordingly. Feedback is appreciated!
Why do you change your lists so much? Your initial lists were fine.
No need to change the lists so much IMO.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:34 am

A new type of list. In this list, the "BIG BAD" will have power level of 120 million. So, this starts from freeza saga.
(note : k = 1000, M = million)


Freeza saga:

Cell saga:
Buu saga:
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:59 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
ahill1 wrote:Piccolo was surprised that Goku is already fighting near full power, that is, he expected Goku to not be near Full Power ( Supressed).
He was "surprised" that Goku was so weak, which was because of his sick condition.
piccolo was surprised because goku should be much stronger than even him, & he was dragging out the fight instead of destroying #19.
He was surprised on how weak his movements were.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:23 pm

Why does everyone believe that goku as a SS3 is 4x his SS2 self (except guidebooks) ? It makes no sense IMO for SS3 to be THAT much boost on his SS2 level. All other multipliers are justified, but this one isn't.


Hell, fat buu was only 2x SS2 adult gohan, who was MUCH weaker than Majin vegeta, putting fat buu at around 1.5 - 1.8x majin vegeta.
And for gotenks, it is even bigger problem, but gotenks doesn't follow the multipliers anyways.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:12 am

Darkron2151 wrote:Why is "SSJ3 = SSJ2 x4" that hard to believe? For one thing, "Fat Buu = 2x SSJ2 Gohan" isn't fact. That was just the amount of energy needed to awaken Buu. Nothing is said that that was Fat Buu's maximum power as a whole.
It was stated that gohan's energy alone can revive majin buu at half power, not just half fill the meter.
Heck, Good Buu's decent performance against Pure Buu implies otherwise, and he's supposed to be a fraction of Fat Buu.
Why is he supposed to be weaker than fat buu? Fat buu is not stronger than kid buu, who was also only a part of him.
Super buu is essentially good buu + bad buu, and he's stronger than SS3 goku. Fat buu has high dormant power, but it doesn't mean he's stronger than kid buu or mr buu.

You can believe that Fat Buu is barely 2x Majin Vegeta if you want, but making it a difinitive fact is not justified in the slightest.
Majin vegeta also was able to hurt fat buu a little, that alone makes him more than half his power. Obviously someone less than half your power can't hut you (unless you specifically lower your guard).
Also, Gotenks doesn't follow the multipliers? Since when? If anything, for Goku's confidence in the boys' fusion to hold any weight, he must have the same SSJ multipliers.

SS gotenks to be 40-50x stronger than base gotenks is what i can't believe.
SS gotenks is around SS3 goku, while base gotenks is stronger than piccolo. No way in hell is SS3 goku 50x piccolo from CG, let alone buu arc piccolo.

. The only "problem" that can be seen is that you don't want SSJ3 Gotenks to be many times stronger than SSJ3 Goku, and while I don't like it either, it's really the only way I can see it as consistent to the manga and the guidebooks.
Consistent? lol.
Kid buu is close to SS3 goku in power, not much power advantage. Buff buu was significantly stronger than even super buu, & was essentially buu + S kaioshin. S kaioshin was weaker than kid buu. So, it puts buff buu at less than 2x kid buu, & super buu / SS3 gotenks at less than 2x SS3 goku.
Remember that SS3 goku & SS gotenks are in same realm of power.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:54 am

Darkron2151 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote: It was stated that gohan's energy alone can revive majin buu at half power, not just half fill the meter.
No it wasn't. All that was said was that Gohan's energy restored almost half the energy needed. Nothing is said about Buu's power directly. It was insinuating that the energy was specifically for hatching Buu.
It was stated that gohan's energy is half of the power required to awake majin buu ANNNND majin buu will be at half power if he is awaken with gohan's power alone.
Why is he supposed to be weaker than fat buu? Fat buu is not stronger than kid buu, who was also only a part of him.
Super buu is essentially good buu + bad buu, and he's stronger than SS3 goku. Fat buu has high dormant power, but it doesn't mean he's stronger than kid buu or mr buu.
Because it was stated that Good Buu and Evil Buu were the products of Fat Buu splitting, with the latter getting the majority of the power.
It is hard to understand this , let alone explain. But the evil buu was like having dormant power of fat buu, & fat buu couldn't use his power to his fullest due to fat kaioshiin suppressing his evil power. Super buu is just fat buu using his power to his fullest, with evil buu in control. He was stronger than SS3 goku. Super buu was evil buu + good buu , so another absorption.
This stuff is a bit confusing,
Majin vegeta also was able to hurt fat buu a little, that alone makes him more than half his power. Obviously someone less than half your power can't hut you (unless you specifically lower your guard).
Are you talking about the time Vegeta thrashed Buu a bit, then he got up like it was nothing, and then proceeded to power up due to anger and then kicked the crap out of Vegeta? If so, that implies the exact opposite of what you're insinuating. Buu was toying with Vegeta, plain and simple.
I'm not saying buu wasn't playing with vegeta, but still, vegeta was strong enough to hurt him a little. Not that vegeta was anywhere near him, but he was strong enough to trouble him with his strongest attacks (see cui vs vegeta for example)
SS gotenks to be 40-50x stronger than base gotenks is what i can't believe.
SS gotenks is around SS3 goku, while base gotenks is stronger than piccolo. No way in hell is SS3 goku 50x piccolo from CG, let alone buu arc piccolo.
Unless Base Gotenks isn't actually stronger than Piccolo and they only acted like that for the comical buildup for the scene afterward. When Goku saw the boys' SSJ power, he thought that if they did fusion and got the same boost like the one he saw in the afterlife, they could beat Buu. If SSJ Gotenks gets a weaker fusion boost than Base Gotenks or any other Fusion, Goku's statements and confidence on how the fusion would beat Buu are far less dependable, to the point of being sheer dumb luck.
1. Piccolo & all others were astonished by base gotenks' power.
2. Everyone acted like base gotenks was really the strongest of all among them.
3. Piccolo was unable to catch base gotenks, who he knew couldn't beat buu.

The gap must be there, even if not big. Base gotenks might be weaker than majin vegeta, but not piccolo.
Consistent? lol.
Kid buu is close to SS3 goku in power, not much power advantage. Buff buu was significantly stronger than even super buu, & was essentially buu + S kaioshin. S kaioshin was weaker than kid buu. So, it puts buff buu at less than 2x kid buu, & super buu / SS3 gotenks at less than 2x SS3 goku.
Remember that SS3 goku & SS gotenks are in same realm of power.
That's assuming that Buu's absorptions work with additions for the kaioshins. Which we know already that anything Kaioshin related doesn't mix well for Buu, but nowhere is it stated indefinitely that it's as simple as addition, as Dai Kaioshin actually made him weaker.
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Even if you go by super buu, he is evil buu + fat buu. So, this absorption also means he's around 2x SS3 goku at best. Again, the only absorption which had unique effects on buu was fat kaioshin, & nothing was stated for S kaioshin absorption to be any different.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:15 am

Darkron2151 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote: It was stated that gohan's energy is half of the power required to awake majin buu ANNNND majin buu will be at half power if he is awaken with gohan's power alone.
Nope. Babidi only mentioned that Gohan's power was "almost half of the power needed". Needed for what? To revive Buu. Nothing was said about Buu's power else during that.
Babidi said that "if buu is awakened NOW , he will only awake at half HIS power." when gohan attacked his ship , just before majin vegeta & goku start fighting.
I'm not saying buu wasn't playing with vegeta, but still, vegeta was strong enough to hurt him a little. Not that vegeta was anywhere near him, but he was strong enough to trouble him with his strongest attacks (see cui vs vegeta for example)
I fail to see where Vegeta hurt him, even a little bit.Buu let Vegeta hit him a bunch of times and let him blast a hole through him, and he still came out just fine. And I'm not sure what Vegeta vs. Cui has anything to do with this. Buu was literally toying with Vegeta, a plaything (pretty much why Kaioshin didn't die immediately). Vegeta wanted Cui dead. By your logic, I guess SSJ Trunks with his sneak attack kick is not terribly off his father in power because it "hurt Buu a little".
Buu himself said that vegeta hurt him a little when he blasted him open.
1. Piccolo & all others were astonished by base gotenks' power.
2. Everyone acted like base gotenks was really the strongest of all among them.
3. Piccolo was unable to catch base gotenks, who he knew couldn't beat buu.

The gap must be there, even if not big. Base gotenks might be weaker than majin vegeta, but not piccolo.
So going by this, you either have Piccolo at least 50x weaker than SSJ3 Goku (If you assume Gotenks is on par with that if not stronger) or Goku's hypothesis on the boys' fusion doesn't mean anything. When he saw the boys' SSJ power, and thought, "hey, if we apply their SSJ form with the boost that I've witnessed fusion do, the total power output would surely be enough to beat Buu." If fusing in base yielded a stronger fusion boost than SSJ fusion, Goku would either have been wrong or was really lucky with his prediction still holding true. Either way, no one could use Goku's hypothesis about Gotenks as proof anymore. SSJ3 Gotenks may be a different story, but SSJ Gotenks should yield the same fusion boost as Base Gotenks for Goku's words to have meaning.
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I think that we must focus on SS3 goku vs SS2 goku for now & we can discuss gotenks later.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:32 am

Nikkolas wrote:Well the GT question was a bust so how about this.

What do people think 21st Budokai Goku's Power Level was? I had someone saying Oozaru 21st Goku would be the strongest thing up until Raditz but I need a base for the 10x multiplier to see if that's true.
I think that he may not be stronger than BoZ goku , due to the fact that goku was really weakened before transformation, but if he transformed before the battle , he might have been strongest being before raditz.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:18 am

Hugo Boss wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:Babidi said that "if buu is awakened NOW , he will only awake at half HIS power." when gohan attacked his ship , just before majin vegeta & goku start fighting.
Actually, it was when Goku and Yakon were about to fight.
but before goku & majin vegeta fight. So, doesn't it mean that :
  • 2x adult gohan = fat majin buu
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:25 am

It follows from INCORRECT assumption that SS3 is 4x SS2 for goku.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:59 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Where do you guys have these characters at ?
Gotenks :

Base - perfect cell
SS - SS3 goku (post HTC) , fat buu (pre HTC)
SS3 - 2x SS gotenks

Gogeta :

base - super perfect cell
SS - 5x buuhan
SS2 - 10x buuhan , < 0.5% beerus
SS3 - 20x buuhan , > 0.5% beerus

Vegetto :

base - Majin vegeta
SS - 8x buuhan
SS2 - 16x buuhan , SS4 goku (initial)
SS3 - 32x buuhan , 1% beerus , SS4 goku (beyond limit)

Super buu :

Base - 1.8x SS3 goku
Buu-piccolo - 2x SS3 goku , buff buu
Buutenks - 4x SS3 goku
Buuhan - 4.5x SS3 goku , SS baby vegeta

Gohan :

Base - 11 million
SS - Slightly above cell jr
SS2 - Slightly above PC FP
___post training___
SS - above CG gohan
SS2 - slightly above majin vegeta
Ultimate - 2.5x SS3 goku , 1.25x SS3 gotenks
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:01 am

Darkron2151 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote: It follows from INCORRECT assumption that SS3 is 4x SS2 for goku.
How is it incorrect? Because you say it is? Also, it is not an "assumption". It's an official statement coming from supplementary material that anyone has the right to take as credible or not so.

The only thing you've shown for SSJ3 not being that strong is a subjective interpretation on how Gohan's collected power works with meter's readings and whether or not it specifically mentions Buu's power as a whole or just the power needed to be "jump started".
1. My entire debate was based on the point that except daiz, there is nothing to support the belief that SS3 = 4x SS2 goku. Remember that daiz is not canon, & we must not take daiz as such. The entire point of debate was to actually verify / proof the power of SS3 vs SS2.

2. Babidi stated it more than once that majin buu will awake at half power if he was awaken at current state (gohan SS2 energy)

3. Fat buu can't access his "true" power due to fat kaioshin's influence. This is why he split up when he became enraged.

4. Buu himself said that majin vegeta hurt him a little

5. Mr buu doesn't need to be necessarily weaker than fat buu's accessible power, he only needs to be weaker than his "true" power (super buu). So, mr buu is less than half of super buu, not fat buu.

6. Fat buu can't be 40% of SS3 goku. Yes, goku could've destroyed him, but he didn't do it because he wanted to teach kids fusion & not waste his energy. If he was 2.5x fatty, he could kill him in one blast & go teach kids fusion.

7. Piccolo said that buu is not the type of opponent on which ganging up will work, not that he's too strong for 2 SS2's.

8. "INITIAL" power of fat buu wasn't 2x gohan. Majin vegeta & goku lol'd at his initial power.
ahill1 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
Seems fine Fat Boo being 2x Gohan SSJ2, but Good Boo must be stronger than Majin Vegeta/Goku SSJ2 and Good Boo is <50% than Fat Boo. Therefore Fat Boo being only 2x Teen Gohan SSJ2 is a impossibility.

I have a theory that only Initial Fat Boo ( without power up ) is ~2x Teen Gohan SSJ2. Teen Gohan SSJ2 is ~45% of Fat Boo ( initial ). It fits pretty well with Gohan thinking that with his real power ( SSJ2 IMO ), he could manage something against Fat Boo ( initial ).


Teen Gohan 600
--- SSJ 30,000
--- SSJ2/real power 60,000 ( 45% of initial Fat Boo/ could manage something against his initial power )

Vegeta 675
--- SSJ 33,750
--- SSJ2 67,500

Majin Vegeta 800
--- SSJ 40,000
--- SSJ2 80,000

Son Goku 800
--- SSJ 40,000
--- SSJ2 80,000
--- SSJ3 320,000

Fat Boo ( initial ) 66,000 ( roughly 2x stronger than Gohan SSJ2 )
--- Powered up 90,000 ( stronger than Majin Vegeta and Goku SSJ2 )
--- Full Power 270,000 ( weaker than Goku SSJ3 by a noticeable amount )
See above points, especially 5,6 & 8

Good buu needs to be weaker than real/full power of buu, not the apparent/accessible power.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:16 am

I should have used the word "supplementary material".
Anyways, if you look it this way, it makes perfect sense for SS3 to be 2x SS2 (for GOKU) :

- Fat buu was more than 2x SS2 gohan. Even if majin vegeta & goku have surpassd gohan, it is still pretty scary power. He was stronger than majin vegeta by good enough to only be a little hurt by his strongest attacks.

- Goku was a good bit stronger than fat buu, but not strong enough to incinerate him with one blast at LESS THAN HALF his power. Same for kid buu, but the roles are reversed.

- Original majin buu was strong, fat buu was formed when fat kaioshin decreased kid buu's power by a significant margin, but not like making him 1/3 or 1/4 of his orignial power.

I'm up for debate if anyone wants to, but please don't say it like "it is mentioned in this & than edition of this guidebook" etc. It kills the debate.
Anyways, moving forward, following is my new & refined list for DB.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:16 pm

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21st TB
RRA encounter:
Fight with unknowns:
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