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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by Blue » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:17 am

Xyex wrote: People really need to move past seasons 1-3. :?
1-3 was awful but so was everything up to the Cell Games. The scripts were pretty inaccurate during the Garlic Jr,Trunks and early/mid Cell stuff.

That's why I like the Z Kai dub, when you finally catch your stride 1 saga away from being done it's a little too late in my book.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:20 am

Xyex wrote:People really need to move past seasons 1-3. :?
I assume you mean the Ocean dub of seasons 1 and 2, because the redub wasn't really that bad.

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:43 am

MR.Mark wrote:It's really getting tiresome seeing topics about the Kai dub being derailed by one lone fans mission to defend the dbz dub's "honor".
Dude, all I did was drop in and point out that Nadolny did the same thing you guys were talking about. If you or anyone else respectfully disagreed, I would've just left it at that. But obviously, (and I'm not pointing fingers at you since you weren't involved in the conversation) that didn't happen.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:56 am

Xyex wrote:People really need to move past seasons 1-3. :?
Right. Lest we forget Season 4's "SAD FOR YOU!!" and "burnt toast".

Or that we had synthesized replacement music that not once since Faulconer productions took over had a single moment of silence.

Maybe how these actors couldn't really act worth crap until the last 2 "seasons". (Not hating on the dub cast, I think the current cast for Kai is absolutely awesome)

I could honestly, without exaggerating, go on for HOURS. But I won't, because it's all been said before. I honestly hate it when people exaggerate about how bad it is and try to say anything to do with the cast is shit, but I will not defend the dub. Ever. It was bad, and that's it. The new Kai dub is a godsend and I adore it, but Z was... just... baaaaaaaaad.

Don't get me wrong, I somewhat enjoy the DBZ dub, but for pretty much the "bullshit" nostalgia reason.

But people are absolutely right to think so when they say that if Clinkenbeard had originally played Gohan and been replaced by Nadolny, you would all want Clinkenbeard back.

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:03 pm

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But people are absolutely right to think so when they say that if Clinkenbeard had originally played Gohan and been replaced by Nadolny, you would all want Clinkenbeard back.
Don't make assumptions based off nothing. I find ANY character with the kind of voice that Gohan has in Kai to be annoying. I wouldn't bat an eye if Goten's voice was changed.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by MR.Mark » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:58 pm

It reeks of rotten nostalgia loaf in here.

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:02 pm

Why just Seasons One through Three? Most of the acting was awful across all of the other seasons, too.

Did I miss the part where people described why they didn't like Clinkenbeard's Gohan? Because I'd say right next to the new Dende, it is one of the most truthful performances.


As for future recasts: please, for the love of goodness, recast the Majin Boos. Justin Cook's forced acting has already affected Raditz, let's let the Majin Boo forms he plays be played by somebody who can play the Piccolo-absorbed forms with some gravitas.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by penguintruth » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:25 pm

Are we operating under the assumption that season 3 was Funimation's only shitty DBZ season?

Oh god, oh god, I can't breathe. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But, in the other seasons' defense, the casting decisions improved, at least.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:04 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
ohaimynameiserik wrote:
But people are absolutely right to think so when they say that if Clinkenbeard had originally played Gohan and been replaced by Nadolny, you would all want Clinkenbeard back.
Don't make assumptions based off nothing. I find ANY character with the kind of voice that Gohan has in Kai to be annoying. I wouldn't bat an eye if Goten's voice was changed.
I'm making an assumption based off the fact that you haven't given a single reason why Clinkenbeard's is so bad or why Nadolny's is so good.

All you've said is basically "I like the old one better". And about 90% of the time, people who are into the "old" stuff, usually just don't like change and are going to hate on the new stuff simply due to the fact that it's different. It won't matter how much absolutely better Nadolny's replacement is, they're always going to say they want some "O.G. NADOLNY".

So, until you give us some explanation, my assumption is completely valid.

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:12 pm

I've already stated numerous times, even in this thread, that Clinkenbeard sounds incredibly forced and annoying. Are you deliberately ignoring this or something?
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Post by ohaimynameiserik » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:19 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I've already stated numerous times, even in this thread, that Clinkenbeard sounds incredibly forced and annoying. Are you deliberately ignoring this or something?
And do you deliberately ignore Nadolny's performance? Because if you aren't into "forced and annoying", then what are you doing defending Nadolny?

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Post by B » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:23 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I've already stated numerous times, even in this thread, that Clinkenbeard sounds incredibly forced and annoying. Are you deliberately ignoring this or something?
Have you backed this up? Like, picked apart a line and shown us what was wonky about it. I could totally do this for Nadolny or any other actor in the Z dub.

Just stating an opinion like that doesn't allow anyone to do any debating/arguing/whatever. Sure, I can tell you you're wrong, but that gets us nowhere.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:10 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Colleen just overdoes it and makes Gohan annoying even when he shouldn't. She just keeps doing the "annoying kid" voice to the point where any changes become pretty unnoticeable.
Do you care point out which lines lead you to this? I have heard not heard any of this, espicially in the latest episodes where she approaches sympathy for the Namekians with genuine deliveries. If Gohan is crying, she is crying (or at least creating the vocal effect without having to blur her vision).
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:42 pm

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jjgp1112 wrote:Colleen just overdoes it and makes Gohan annoying even when he shouldn't. She just keeps doing the "annoying kid" voice to the point where any changes become pretty unnoticeable.
Do you care point out which lines lead you to this? I have heard not heard any of this, espicially in the latest episodes where she approaches sympathy for the Namekians with genuine deliveries. If Gohan is crying, she is crying (or at least creating the vocal effect without having to blur her vision).
I can't remember what scene it was, but at one point, I was thinking, "GAH! Can Gohan shut the FUCK up already?!" I never particularly got that feeling with Nadolny's Gohan unless I was actually supposed to get the feeling (IE, 4 year old Gohan whining about the "Bad Piccolo man"). Gohan as a whole is just really unlikeable this time around. At least for Bulma, it's just the voice itself that I don't like, while she's still the same person she was from the previous dub. But with Gohan, it's almost like everything I actually liked about him is being sucked away.

I'll wait to see how she handles my favorite incarnation of Gohan (SSJ2), although I have a feeling that probably won't work out so well, either.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by Kaboom » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:46 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I can't remember what scene it was, but at one point, I was thinking, "GAH! Can Gohan shut the FUCK up already?!"
That has nothing to do with who's voicing him. That's just... Gohan.
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:59 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Clinkenbeard sounds incredibly forced and annoying.
Thats how I would describe Naldony. Her voice is creepy and unnatural and her voice acting is just plain terrible.
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Post by dragonpiece » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:12 pm

penguintruth wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Clinkenbeard sounds incredibly forced and annoying.
Thats how I would describe Naldony. Her voice is creepy and unnatural and her voice acting is just plain terrible.
Heh, I would have said the exact same thing. :lol:

Now can we stop the discussion on why most of us hate the Z dub and why jjgp1112 needs to just stop defending it? Anyways, I agree with Jacob in saying we need Majin Buu recasted. I'd also like Cell recasted but it looks like that is already confirmed to have the Raging Blast voice actor voice him. :(
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:18 pm

penguintruth wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Clinkenbeard sounds incredibly forced and annoying.
Thats how I would describe Naldony. Her voice is creepy and unnatural and her voice acting is just plain terrible.
Well, I disagree, so we're just going to have to agree to disagree, because really, let's all admit it - each and every one of our opinion's were established well before this thread and no matter what anybody says, nothing's going to change any of our opinions or even make us admit that maybe the other person is onto something, so these arguments are incredibly pointless and just go in circles and do nothing but create resentment.
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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by MR.Mark » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:41 pm

Dude, don't make me post a voice comparison clip of Nadolny and Schwarzenegger cuz I will. :lol:

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Re: Future Kai DUB Re-casts speculation

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:48 pm

MR.Mark wrote:Dude, don't make me post a voice comparison clip of Nadolny and Schwarzenegger cuz I will. :lol:
Umm...what?
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