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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:29 am

Pokewhiz7 wrote: If there's no info about said tape, then where did you hear this from?
I read about it on dragonball wiki's article about the HG dub.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Levlik » Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:57 am

It should go without saying, but the Dragon Ball Wiki isn't a terribly credible source of information.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:58 am

Be nice if they cited things, wouldn't it?

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:07 am

Levlik wrote:It should go without saying, but the Dragon Ball Wiki isn't a terribly credible source of information.
Yeah I'm starting to realize that fact, it sucks that it doesnt exist cause if it did I'd try to shell out a good chunk of money for it, then again I'd be willing to pay anybody who has the HG dub of DB for it if its within my budget.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by atm5508 » Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:56 pm

I've heard a lot about the Streamline Tape, but no one has ever been able to produce a copy (that I know of). If it was produced in such small quantities, I'd guess that the only hope for finding one would be in California or on the west coast due to Harmony Gold and Streamline both being located in California.

There isn't much other than a rumor and some circumstantial evidence regarding the existence of this tape. I've looked for it high and low, and never come across anyone who owned it, much less someone who was willing to sell it. Don't stop looking for it, but don't get your hopes up too high either.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:05 pm

Okay, it appears Wiki user Jeffman13 was the one who added that line. I'll try to contact him.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:34 am

Oh trust me atm5508 I plan to keep looking for the Streamline tape until I find one, but if they're in such limited quantities and all of them in California or along the west coast like you suggested then my only chance of seeing the tape where I live (since I live on the east coast) would be if someone from California or the west coast moved close to where I live and had it for sale at either a yard sale or flea market even though the chances of that happening are slim to none.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by atm5508 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:48 am

superrayman3 wrote:Oh trust me atm5508 I plan to keep looking for the Streamline tape until I find one, but if they're in such limited quantities and all of them in California or along the west coast like you suggested then my only chance of seeing the tape where I live (since I live on the east coast) would be if someone from California or the west coast moved close to where I live and had it for sale at either a yard sale or flea market even though the chances of that happening are slim to none.
Don't worry superrayman3, you probably have a better chance of finding a recorded copy from the broadcast than those on the west coast. While I've found a few stations that supposedly broadcasted the show, the only confirmed station that I know of is Philly 57 WGBS-TV, which could probably received from several locations on the east coast.

If you know of any anime fans that kept up with things back in the 80's-early 90's, they might have a tape sitting in their basement!

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:44 am

atm5508 wrote:
If you know of any anime fans that kept up with things back in the 80's-early 90's, they might have a tape sitting in their basement!
Sadly I don't know of any anime fans from the 80's early 90's where I live so in that regard no dice.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by atm5508 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:14 am

Pokewhiz7 wrote:Okay, it appears Wiki user Jeffman13 was the one who added that line. I'll try to contact him.
Not sure if we have someone trying to create rumors or someone with genuine information, but another Wikipedia user posted this on the article for Sleeping Princess In Devil's Castle:
The English rights to Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle were granted to Harmony Gold USA originally in conjunction with their rights to the TV series in 1989. They released the other two movies out at the time, but never actually did anything with this film other than use bits of footage in their opening theme. Their deal with Streamline Pictures, MGM Home Entertainment, Paramount Home Entertainment, and Orion Pictures led to a possible sub only release of the film in the mid 1990s.
When I looked up who the user was, it was someone named Geoffman13.

I don't want to be too negative, but this seems a little fishy. :?
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:40 am

They released the other two movies out at the time, but never actually did anything with this film other than use bits of footage in their opening theme.
You know, oddly enough, in the movies 1 and 3 opening that was uploaded, they did actually use some movie two footage. This doesn't mean he's entirely reliable, just that at least part of it is correct. And once again, no fucking citation about the tape. :mad:

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by atm5508 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:47 am

It does sound plausible, and I suspect that Harmony Gold probably did license the first three films (just 1 & 3 doesn't make a lot of sense to me), but the part about a sub-only tape and the fact that it has no citation certainly raises a red flag.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:51 am

atm5508 wrote:It does sound plausible, and I suspect that Harmony Gold probably did license the first three films (just 1 & 3 doesn't make a lot of sense to me), but the part about a sub-only tape and the fact that it has no citation certainly raises a red flag.
He also said the same thing on the other two movies. It is extremely strange.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:55 am

Pokewhiz7 wrote:And once again, no fucking citation about the tape. :mad:
I've been cheking various lists of Streamline releases and none of them list DB anywhere so at this point I honestly think that the person who mentioned the tape is just flat out spouting bullshit.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by ricecake » Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:28 pm

atm5508 wrote:I suspect that Harmony Gold probably did license the first three films (just 1 & 3 doesn't make a lot of sense to me)
In this thread, they say that Pioneer released the movies out of order (1, then 3, then 2). I wonder if HG was going to release them in the same order, if they would have continued with their releases.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:48 pm

ricecake wrote:
atm5508 wrote:I suspect that Harmony Gold probably did license the first three films (just 1 & 3 doesn't make a lot of sense to me)
In this thread, they say that Pioneer released the movies out of order (1, then 3, then 2). I wonder if HG was going to release them in the same order, if they would have continued with their releases.
It's possible but we'll never know for sure. Speaking of releases has there been any word from the people who posted about the Streamline tape of movies 1&3 atm5508 and Pokewhiz7?
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by atm5508 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:58 pm

ricecake wrote:
atm5508 wrote:I suspect that Harmony Gold probably did license the first three films (just 1 & 3 doesn't make a lot of sense to me)
In this thread, they say that Pioneer released the movies out of order (1, then 3, then 2). I wonder if HG was going to release them in the same order, if they would have continued with their releases.
That's certainly possible, but Pioneer released the first three Dragon Ball Z movies out of order, not the first three Dragon Ball movies. Those three movies could probably be shown in any order and make close to the same amount of sense.

However, the Dragon Ball Movies form something closer to an actual continuity than any of the DBZ movies. The first movie covers Goku, Bulma, and the others meeting, the second covers how Krillin and Goku become Master Roshi's students (as well as the introduction of Launch), and the third shows them finish their training and go to their first Tournament.

If you only saw movies 1 &3, it would kind of seem like Krillin and Launch just appeared from nowhere.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:31 pm

I just realized something about this Jeffman13 person I tink needs looking into, I just checked his wiki page and he also goes by the name Geoff so i'm pretty sure this Jeffmam13 person and Geoffman13 are the same guy which makes this Streamline tape situation even more akward.
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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by atm5508 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:43 am

superrayman3 wrote:I just realized something about this Jeffman13 person I tink needs looking into, I just checked his wiki page and he also goes by the name Geoff so i'm pretty sure this Jeffmam13 person and Geoffman13 are the same guy which makes this Streamline tape situation even more akward.
Yeah I've been working under that assumption, it just sees like too much of a coincidence for them to be different people.

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Re: The mysteries that still surround HG's dub of DB

Post by superrayman3 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:42 am

atm5508 wrote: Yeah I've been working under that assumption, it just sees like too much of a coincidence for them to be different people.
Yeah personally I think that his info about this mysterious Streamline tape sounds too convenient to be true for the HG dub, what makes his info even stranger is the fact that this guy is the only person that says it exists, hopefully he'll reply to either you or Pokewhiz7 about this tape so we can figure this whole thing out.
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