Japanese Terms in Other Adaptations

Rukura · Post by **Rukura** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:23 am

There's also the classic example of Kaioken, which was even mispronounced in the english adaptation as "Keioken" (kinda like "seiyan")

Haji · Post by **Haji** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:49 am

All that stuff about kai is confusing me, when i hear the word kai, i either think of 界 or 改 or 会 Not all this stuff about it being a english term and new meaning and all that, mainly cause i never heard of people arguing over it.

And oh, about about the Budokai and Tenkaichi thing me and my brothers and friends would say it wrong, budokai was buduhkai and we almost said tenkaichi right, we just said it like ten kai chi not ten ka ichi. I don't say it like that anymore though, since i learned a bit of japanese it bugs me now, but if i hear someone say it like one of my friends or brother i don't wanna be the smart guy and have to correct them.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:20 pm

Rukura wrote:There's also the classic example of Kaioken, which was even mispronounced in the english adaptation as "Keioken" (kinda like "seiyan")

Stop spelling them like that, because it doesn't have the point you want. See "Poseidon" and "bait".

Rukura · Post by **Rukura** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:48 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Rukura wrote:There's also the classic example of Kaioken, which was even mispronounced in the english adaptation as "Keioken" (kinda like "seiyan")
Stop spelling them like that, because it doesn't have the point you want. See "Poseidon" and "bait".

I was spelling them like that the second time how they were pronounced because this "writting" thing doesn't get "vocal" thoughts across. Maybe you want to start an argument about "Kaioken" not being a Japanese word in the english dub, but I wasn't talking to you. (PS: Who the hell do you think you are, trying to tell what to do or not do?)

OutlawTorn · Post by **OutlawTorn** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:39 am

Rukura wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Rukura wrote:There's also the classic example of Kaioken, which was even mispronounced in the english adaptation as "Keioken" (kinda like "seiyan")
Stop spelling them like that, because it doesn't have the point you want. See "Poseidon" and "bait".
I was spelling them like that the second time how they were pronounced because this "writting" thing doesn't get "vocal" thoughts across. Maybe you want to start an argument about "Kaioken" not being a Japanese word in the english dub, but I wasn't talking to you. (PS: Who the hell do you think you are, trying to tell what to do or not do?)

Was such snark even necessary? The point made is a valid one nonetheless as English is not Japanese and combination of vowels can produce more than one pronunciation. Or... maybe you'd like to tell the Hawaiians that they're saying "Kamehameha" wrong because it's actually a word in a Japanese anime?

When I see the word "sail" I don't pronounce it "sigh-il" and I'm sure I would stumble over "Makkankosappo" just as I'm sure imported English words or names aren't pronounced 100% correctly in Japanese. But would you make the effort to butcher spellings in order to mock them for not getting it correct?

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:06 am

I guess the best way to phonetically portray the way Kaio-ken is pronounced in FUNimation's English dub is literally "K, O, ken", or "Kay-oh-ken".

Rukura · Post by **Rukura** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:20 am

OutlawTorn wrote:Was such snark even necessary? The point made is a valid one nonetheless as English is not Japanese and combination of vowels can produce more than one pronunciation. Or... maybe you'd like to tell the Hawaiians that they're saying "Kamehameha" wrong because it's actually a word in a Japanese anime?

When I see the word "sail" I don't pronounce it "sigh-il" and I'm sure I would stumble over "Makkankosappo" just as I'm sure imported English words or names aren't pronounced 100% correctly in Japanese. But would you make the effort to butcher spellings in order to mock them for not getting it correct?

Apparently, it was. Because, from what I'm seeing in both yours and Rocketman's response, you two got exactly what I was trying to get across and yet are trying to give me crap for it.

I just so happen to understand english and know how it's different in that respect, but we're talking about japanese words that are used in the english adaptation. The point wasn't so much the pronounciation, as it was the word itself.

Tell the hawaiians that they're saying "Kamehameha" wrong? You have got to be kidding lol. That's like saying "Let's tell the japanese that they're saying "Dragon Ball" wrong" lol. Here's the flaw in that theory - That was turned into something else because it had the letters for "kame" and the "ha" is used with the kanji for "wave".

EDIT: I'm tired of this. I don't want to keep up discussions that only bring about negativity from people that are so sure about being right. This isn't what I joined the forum for. As far as the japanese terms used in other adaptations, here's how I want to leave my contribution to this thread: Kai, Kaioken, Ma Junior and Majin.

Ringworm128 · Post by **Ringworm128** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:05 am

Wasn't Masenko used? And I think Piccolo randomly yelled out Makosen-ha during the battle with #17.

Haji · Post by **Haji** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:34 am

I have heard the attack name Masenko through DBZ but said wrong, as Maseinko.

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