Dragonball Z: Saiyan Saga - Help make this happen!

[dbboxkaifan]

he's going to pronounce Kaio Ken and the other techniques properly, rather than with the FUNimation mispronunciations.

So, he's going to pronounce Saiyan correctly?

[DerekPadula]

Actually, with that one I'm not so sure! We'll have to wait and see. My guess is it will be the American "Seiyan" pronunciation.

[Avenged]

Just for the record, FUNimaton has fixed a countless amount of pronunciation mistakes with their latest releases. And can the terms "true" and "hardcore" fan die already lol >.>

Anyways, I really do not see why so many people are getting upset. This is not an official adaptation, it's not even a full length movie. It is simply a low budget project. Only if this project becomes a success will they continue to make trailers for the other sagas and possibly a short film.

[Saiga]

Why is "Zee" wrong?

[Pafupafu]

If this project is successful, they will be knee deep in lawsuits because technically it is illegal to have people "Pay to See" their interpretation of DragonBall. To be honest, the more I think about this project, the more I am opposed to it. These guys raised $16,000 not from their own talent but because of the brand created by Toriyama, Toei, and even Funimation to some regard. It is a crime to do so as there are hard working independent filmmakers with much more talent who deserve the funding these "producers" are receiving. Capitalizing on a property name that they do not own is selfish, unethical, and illegal.

I hate to be the mom at the party but seriously, there are people who work everyday for the companies that profit from the brand and these guys are taking money away from them. It's just not good business.

You can say that they will not profit from this in any way and that all the $16,000 covers is the budget but seriously, do you honestly think that Saiyan Armor cost more than $100? These guys are con artists who are using a site dedicated to 99% original ideas to profit off of a property WE all know and love. Not only is it unfair to Toei, Toriyama, etc...It's unfair to the fans of this show who are putting out money because this is something WE would like to see. Unfortunately, these "producers" are not the people responsible for releasing this material and will more than likely be hit with a massive fine if they get any type of profit, whether it be from YouTube Ads or even follow-up work based on this film.

[Bussani]

Why is "Zee" wrong?

No one said it was. It's just not how British people generally pronounce the letter, so the British guy is using "Zee" for consistency and for the benefit of Americans, or whatever.

[Super Sayian Prime]

I did find it amusing that despite the fact that the later Ocean dub was only broadcast in countries that served under British English the dub still used "Zee" instead of "Zed".

[Son Geeko]

If this project is successful, they will be knee deep in lawsuits because technically it is illegal to have people "Pay to See" their interpretation of DragonBall. To be honest, the more I think about this project, the more I am opposed to it. These guys raised $16,000 not from their own talent but because of the brand created by Toriyama, Toei, and even Funimation to some regard. It is a crime to do so as there are hard working independent filmmakers with much more talent who deserve the funding these "producers" are receiving. Capitalizing on a property name that they do not own is selfish, unethical, and illegal.

I hate to be the mom at the party but seriously, there are people who work everyday for the companies that profit from the brand and these guys are taking money away from them. It's just not good business.

You can say that they will not profit from this in any way and that all the $16,000 covers is the budget but seriously, do you honestly think that Saiyan Armor cost more than $100? These guys are con artists who are using a site dedicated to 99% original ideas to profit off of a property WE all know and love. Not only is it unfair to Toei, Toriyama, etc...It's unfair to the fans of this show who are putting out money because this is something WE would like to see. Unfortunately, these "producers" are not the people responsible for releasing this material and will more than likely be hit with a massive fine if they get any type of profit, whether it be from YouTube Ads or even follow-up work based on this film.

*sigh*

You know there are plenty of other budgeted fan films/trailers out there that have all been up for some time now, and NONE of them have been sued?

Examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2ZXSzaUIBQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7oadchZMYA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ2NA--PFbE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZVp9NFhQE


It's very unlikely that this fan project will be any different. You sound like you WANT them to get sued real badly, sheesh.

[Avenged]

MK Legacy is another example. Sure they got permission, but who's to say these guys can't get permission in the future to continue their project? And I find it funny people are basing their opinions on a few photos, specifically the Raditz one, which for the record he will hardly play a part at all. And that photo isn't even finalized, they've said this themselves.

[DerekPadula]

Why is "Zee" wrong?

Here's my super detailed blog post with the answer you're looking for.

[MarcFBR]

You know there are plenty of other budgeted fan films/trailers out there that have all been up for some time now, and NONE of them have been sued?

It's very unlikely that this fan project will be any different. Quit worrying man, sheesh.

The different here is, those projects were budgeted by the people MAKING them, not by actively asking for outside money.

MK Legacy being a good example- MK Legacy got made because of a short pitch film called MK Rebirth. MK Rebirth was completely funded by the director. The few name people on it donated their time as he was their friend.

One of the best recent examples of a 'donated' fanfilm being smacked down was the Inspector Spacetime fanfilm, which was going to star the actor who actually played Inspector Spacetime. So it's being rewritten as a 'different' character.



My general feeling on this has always been- If it gets made it'll be crap. I've yet to see anything to make me think different. Just makes me happy I didn't waste any money on it.

I'd want a properly adapted Dragon Ball film. The key word being 'adapted'.

[Avenged]

Why is "Zee" wrong?

Here's my super detailed blog post with the answer you're looking for.

I like how you advertise your site any chance you get.

[DerekPadula]

Why is "Zee" wrong?

Here's my super detailed blog post with the answer you're looking for.

I like how you advertise your site any chance you get.

Haha. But I only do it when it's relevant and helpful to the conversation! It just so happens that I wrote this in-depth article on the subject.

[Pafupafu]

You know there are plenty of other budgeted fan films/trailers out there that have all been up for some time now, and NONE of them have been sued?

It's very unlikely that this fan project will be any different. Quit worrying man, sheesh.

The different here is, those projects were budgeted by the people MAKING them, not by actively asking for outside money.

MK Legacy being a good example- MK Legacy got made because of a short pitch film called MK Rebirth. MK Rebirth was completely funded by the director. The few name people on it donated their time as he was their friend.

One of the best recent examples of a 'donated' fanfilm being smacked down was the Inspector Spacetime fanfilm, which was going to star the actor who actually played Inspector Spacetime. So it's being rewritten as a 'different' character.



My general feeling on this has always been- If it gets made it'll be crap. I've yet to see anything to make me think different. Just makes me happy I didn't waste any money on it.

I'd want a properly adapted Dragon Ball film. The key word being 'adapted'.

Exactly, these guys are taking money from the GENERAL PUBLIC which also includes the target audience and consumers of Toei/Funimation, thus, taking away money from them. This project is illegal. If anyone can go on IndieGoGo and get $16,000 just for using the name "Dragon Ball Z" (let's face it, they didn't get the funding from their charm/talent), then the website itself is a broken system where established name brands and business can be taken advantage of.

It'll be canned soon and the $16,000? Hopefully returned.

[Avenged]

Also, the first $5,000 came out of these guys own pockets. And I don't see the problem in donating for this project, even this very website accepts donations to keep a fan site going. Should TOEI also track websites down such as this one and throw a cease and desist notice at it for accepting money or running ads? Even the first two unofficial films (Magic Begins and Fight Son Goku, Win Son Goku) still make money although they never got permission to make these movies (to my knowledge). I say let's just see how well this turns out, it;s only a fan project after all.

However I do feel sorry for whoever donated the $750 in which they will receive the Raditz Saiyan armor (http://www.indiegogo.com/DBZ-Saiyan-Saga?c=gallery). Hope they didn't donate just for this piece of cloth.

[MarcFBR]

Also, the first $5,000 came out of these guys own pockets. And I don't see the problem in donating for this project, even this very website accepts donations to keep a fan site going. Should TOEI also track websites down such as this one and throw a cease and desist notice at it for accepting money or running ads? Even the first two unofficial films (Magic Begins and Fight Son Goku, Win Son Goku) still make money although they never got permission to make these movies (to my knowledge). I say let's just see how well this turns out, it;s only a fan project after all.

This needs to be clarified.

The guys making Saiyan Saga can CALL it a donation all they want, but it isn't. IndieGoGo's various FAQ pages make this all clear.

The 2 "DB" films you named were created in a time before the modern age of the world becoming very small very quickly, and largely would be hard to deal with simply because they've existed for so long by the time it became relevant to deal with them.

If these guys don't get smacked down legally it'll effectively be because those who could chose not to, not out of any belief they couldn't.

As for the 'film' itself, I've said it before and I'll say it again- I really have no interest in mock attempts to do 1:1 live action Dragon Ball. It comes across as more lazy and poorly thought out than the costumes we've seen thus far. If you can't put in the effort to even have a script... just wow.

Which brings up another difference between the site and this 'film'. The site is all news and editorial content based upon Dragon Ball. The film itself is just copying things from the series.

[Kuwabara]

Exactly, these guys are taking money from the GENERAL PUBLIC which also includes the target audience and consumers of Toei/Funimation, thus, taking away money from them.

They haven't "taken" anything, people willingly donated money to them...

[dprez]

How incredibly interesting would this be to see after the abomination that was "Dragon Ball Evolution".

[TheDevilsCorpse]

How incredibly interesting would this be to see after the abomination that was "Dragon Ball Evolution".

Honestly? I rather watch Evolution...

[dbboxkaifan]

How incredibly interesting would this be to see after the abomination that was "Dragon Ball Evolution".

Honestly? I rather watch Evolution...

I was kind of pissed off that Son Goku Vs. Piccolo's fight in DBE was so damn quick!

Tbh, I liked DBE but it surely could've been better, or not. DBZ's not a thing to bring to real life.