Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon" Set

[BluezaBladeNZ]

I expect the difference to be nearly exactly the same as the difference between the old Pioneer release of the first 3 films, and the "First Strike" FUNimation release from 2005, though with barely any macroblocking.

That is to say, for the first 2 (edited) episodes or so, it will be a noticeable improvement, but after that, it will still be sharper and more defined, as well as much less macroblocked (more so these days), but their old digibeta footage after episode 4 had their typical, somewhat dark and fuzzy Z single look, whereas their first few episodes looked very sharp and defined, so it's not as big of an improvement.

The same case was with the films; the Pioneer films all look about the same, but the Ultimate Uncut versions had movie 1 looking extremely sharp and defined liked the first 4 episodes, but movies 2 and 3, despite being an improvement, look like their typical singles.

Here are some comparisons to show what I mean:

Ultimate Uncut (episode 4):
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Edited Single:
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Here you can notice lots of cross coloration and dot crawl that doesn't exist in the original footage. Considering the films were the same way, I wouldn't attribute it to the editing that was done to the footage. Also, lots of the outlines just look fuzzy and blurred now.

Ultimate Uncut (episode 5):
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Edited Single:
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Though the footage takes a step down from this point, you can still see a noticeable difference. Look at the right side of Raditz' eyebrows: the edited DVD loses lots of detail and information there! There is also lots more cross-coloration/rainbowing on the edited release.

If the episodes were indeed re-encoded to better quality, they would look better. Here's the same shots from the Madman version of 1.1 - Arrival:





You can see that the quality is more in line with that the Ultimate Uncut edition looks like.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

I don't even know where to begin...

If this is truly the original 1996 dub, just re-released in a box set. Damn straight I'll snatch this up! Don't get me wrong, it's a bad dub. I'm fully aware it's nostalgia making me want it. The music, the voices, those classic lines... all bring me back to when I was 16, watching DragonBall Z in English for the first time. I remember getting a tape ready for that first episode. Sure I have the old DVDs, but here's hoping the format is a little different this time around. Next episode previews for each episode as well as the title cards for the first 4 episodes would be nice. Also, the old DVD transfer is pure shit so, hopefully this is bumped up.

If this is a re-dub of the first few episodes? What the fuck? This wouldn't make sense on so many levels. If FUNimation actually hired the Ocean cast to re-dub these episodes, wouldn't that create bad blood with their DBZ cast of the past 10 years? This FUNi in-house cast were the ones replacing the Ocean cast, now the Ocean cast come back to re-place the in-house FUNi cast?! (at least for this project).

Alright, look... I'm gonna throw something really crazy out there. It's just a theory. Keep in mind I'm totally bat shit insane so when you read this, please don't pay much attention to it. So, I'm thinking the Ocean cast actually dubbed Battle of Gods. FUNimation is now screwed because it's not their cast. But since FUNimation will have distributing rights to the Battle of the Gods home release, it might hurt their sales. So FUNi figures the best thing to do is familiarize their fans with this cast. Maybe they went back and re-dubbed the Saiyan and Freeza arc so that they can release the rest of the series with the Ocean cast creating this... I don't even know what.

[Attitudefan]

Alright, look... I'm gonna throw something really crazy out there. It's just a theory. Keep in mind I'm totally bat shit insane so when you read this, please don't pay much attention to it. So, I'm thinking the Ocean cast actually dubbed Battle of Gods. FUNimation is now screwed because it's not their cast. But since FUNimation will have distributing rights to the Battle of the Gods home release, it might hurt their sales. So FUNi figures the best thing to do is familiarize their fans with this cast. Maybe they went back and re-dubbed the Saiyan and Freeza arc so that they can release the rest of the series with the Ocean cast creating this... I don't even know what.

Nope, seems credible. Why would the FUNi cast be hateful of being replaced. Instead, they can sigh a fresh of breath air from DBZ forever.

[Castor Troy]

I wonder if this release will be more than 3-4 eps per disc and have the original edited next episode previews.

[eledoremassis02]

If we get Ian Corlett or Peter Kelamis back then alllll will be good Wishful thinking of course.

[Attitudefan]

I actually think this is the most exciting year in the DB fandom for a loooong time. Kai was cool. But this and the new movie, coloured manga, Toriyama's involvement... my god it's only February!

[samuraix123]

Wow Tanooki Kuribo that's a really good idea! I would rather hear the Funimation dub in the new movie though BUT! I am still excited for this release. I don't believe it's a re-dub though.

I actually think this is the most exciting year in the DB fandom for a loooong time. Kai was cool. But this and the new movie, coloured manga, Toriyama's involvement... my god it's only February!

I agree. It's going to be a great year to be a Dragonball fan. I'm hoping this is one of many great things coming out this year. I'm still holding out on those Dragon-boxes.

[Brad Redfield]

If this is a re-release of the original dub... then it's official: Funimation has milked DBZ to the point where the cow has left town and they are trying to milk the air.

It's absolutely amazing that they keep finding new ways to make the home video release of DBZ more and more convoluted.

[Chuquita]

Alright, look... I'm gonna throw something really crazy out there. It's just a theory. Keep in mind I'm totally bat shit insane so when you read this, please don't pay much attention to it. So, I'm thinking the Ocean cast actually dubbed Battle of Gods. FUNimation is now screwed because it's not their cast. But since FUNimation will have distributing rights to the Battle of the Gods home release, it might hurt their sales. So FUNi figures the best thing to do is familiarize their fans with this cast. Maybe they went back and re-dubbed the Saiyan and Freeza arc so that they can release the rest of the series with the Ocean cast creating this... I don't even know what.

Nope, seems credible. Why would the FUNi cast be hateful of being replaced. Instead, they can sigh a fresh of breath air from DBZ forever.

BOG English Dub...with a more fitting/accurate Goku voice similar to Corlett or Kelamis or MasakoX...yes. Yes I would purchase that. *_*

Wasn't someone talking about Ocean's new Goku voice in the bigger Ocean Kai thread? I forget as I wasn't following that closely.

With English dub Goku voices, TFS has spoiled me; I can't listen to Funi Goku anymore because of how amazing TFS Goku is. >_>

[Attitudefan]

If this is a re-release of the original dub... then it's official: Funimation has milked DBZ to the point where the cow has left town and they are trying to milk the air.

It's absolutely amazing that they keep finding new ways to make the home video release of DBZ more and more convoluted.

Seriously, this made me laugh so loud, my family told me "to be quiet!"

Can I use this as my tag? This is the best quote ever.

[samuraix123]

If this is a re-release of the original dub... then it's official: Funimation has milked DBZ to the point where the cow has left town and they are trying to milk the air.

It's absolutely amazing that they keep finding new ways to make the home video release of DBZ more and more convoluted.

I understand the Dragonball series has been milked to death, but I have such a passion for the Dragonball series that I honestly don't mind The things that suck are when awesome stuff like the level sets get canned. I'm pretty sure that the Dragonball fanbase is the most spoiled ever! when it comes to getting their favorite series released over and over

[eledoremassis02]

I think I just figured it out.

This very well could be a Canada only release. Perhaps they are using the same strategy they used in the U.K to usher in Dragon Ball kai. But since Canada is getting Ocean Kai, then FUNimation is releasing the Ocean dub like the orange bricks were released before Kai in the UK.

[Kendamu]

Alright, look... I'm gonna throw something really crazy out there. It's just a theory. Keep in mind I'm totally bat shit insane so when you read this, please don't pay much attention to it. So, I'm thinking the Ocean cast actually dubbed Battle of Gods. FUNimation is now screwed because it's not their cast. But since FUNimation will have distributing rights to the Battle of the Gods home release, it might hurt their sales. So FUNi figures the best thing to do is familiarize their fans with this cast. Maybe they went back and re-dubbed the Saiyan and Freeza arc so that they can release the rest of the series with the Ocean cast creating this... I don't even know what.

Nope, seems credible. Why would the FUNi cast be hateful of being replaced. Instead, they can sigh a fresh of breath air from DBZ forever.

BOG English Dub...with a more fitting/accurate Goku voice similar to Corlett or Kelamis or MasakoX...yes. Yes I would purchase that. *_*

Wasn't someone talking about Ocean's new Goku voice in the bigger Ocean Kai thread? I forget as I wasn't following that closely.

With English dub Goku voices, TFS has spoiled me; I can't listen to Funi Goku anymore because of how amazing TFS Goku is. >_>

I know the feeling. Honestly, in Goku vs Superman, I didn't even think twice about Goku being MasakoX. It didn't feel like a "fan dub" to me at all. It was just Goku right there trading blows with Superman.

[El Diabeetus]

Castor and I basically both asked FUNimaton via Twitter, if this is real. I don't think either of us got an answer. This release if real, just defies logic. It's cool that Ocean is potentially getting another shot, but I thought they were supposed to have their own Kai dub. This sounds like something I'd pick up, but I already have all of the Dragon Boxes and all of the Kai parts released so far. Sorry FUNimation, but I do not want to re-buy all of Z again. Kai's the only 're-buying' of Z, I'm doing and that's for the faster pace and new English dub. I'll definitely check out clips of this if real though, via YouTube most likely.

[ForestEquilibrium]

I think I just figured it out.

This very well could be a Canada only release. Perhaps they are using the same strategy they used in the U.K to usher in Dragon Ball kai. But since Canada is getting Ocean Kai, then FUNimation is releasing the Ocean dub like the orange bricks were released before Kai in the UK.

If the cover is real, that wouldn't make sense since we only got "Rock for the Dragon" for one episode (which was probably a fluke anyway) and that seems to be part of the supposed marketing scheme for this thing. Besides, Funi Kai is readily available here (just not on TV).

[eledoremassis02]

Hmmm

You only got Rock for the Dragon for that long?

Well..I'm outta ideas

[Brad Redfield]

Can I use this as my tag? This is the best quote ever.

Go right ahead!

This is just so silly. Just give me more Dragon Boxes if you're that desperate, Funimation.

[Attitudefan]

Hmmm

You only got Rock for the Dragon for that long?

Well..I'm outta ideas

The UK/Blue Water dub had rock the Dragon for some episodes if I remember. I always would try to sing Rock the Dragon but the other intro, the "DRAGON BALL ZEEEEEE" one would always pop in my head. I was young, so I don't remember if I was confused of the use of intros from the Namek-Saiyan arc and later and thought they blended in or something. Most people here in Canada, remember both, but Rock the Dragon more so than the other one.

[ForestEquilibrium]

Hmmm

You only got Rock for the Dragon for that long?

Well..I'm outta ideas

The UK/Blue Water dub had rock the Dragon for some episodes if I remember. I always would try to sing Rock the Dragon but the other intro, the "DRAGON BALL ZEEEEEE" one would always pop in my head. I was young, so I don't remember if I was confused of the use of intros from the Namek-Saiyan arc and later and thought they blended in or something. Most people here in Canada, remember both, but Rock the Dragon more so than the other one.

I quite vividly remember hearing the other theme from pretty every episode aired on YTV except for the one where Goku shows up at the Saiyan fight which used Rock The Dragon for some random reason, but yeah, I remember as a kid liking Rock the Dragon more (it was on the VHS tapes too so that was more exposure) and wondering why they never used it for any other episodes, it's so much better for pumping you up than that Casio-keyboard crap.

[Kendamu]

"Rock the Dragon" didn't grace my TV screen too often because most of my experience with ther earlier DBZ episodes was through Toonami. So, while it was "around" for quite awhile, it really wasn't a huge thing for me after it stopped airing at 6AM on my local FOX channel. Still, even with people who know DBZ solely through the in-house cast, "Rock the Dragon" is a very well-known theme synonymous with American DBZ.

Crazy, considering how little it was seen in the long run.