Goku > Gohan or Gotenks by end of the series?

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Re: Goku > Gohan or Gotenks by end of the series?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:58 pm

Kaboom wrote:The most consistent, original, and mostly-official naming scheme we have for the different forms of Majin Boo:

Majin Boo ("Fat"/"Innocent"/Good"): The chubby Boo whom SSj3 Goku fought and SSj Gotenks was intended to fight. The same terms are often applied to him after his split and possibly permanent loss of power.
Majin Boo ("Pure Evil"): The gray-colored, sickly-looking thin Boo who emerged from, defeated, and ate the fat one. Named as such because he's no more than a physical embodiment of Boo's evil.
Majin Boo ("Evil"): The pink-again, tall, muscular form Boo took after eating his fat self. Named because although he's made up of the same "parts" as Fat Boo, his evil side is now in control.
Majin Boo ("Pure"): The small and crazy Majin Boo whom Goku and Vegeta fought and who was finally eradicated by the Spirit Bomb. Named this because he's Boo in his 100% unaltered, original form, with no absorptions or other outer or inner influences affecting his form or power.
Isn't "Mr. Buu" an official name? Or is that just a Funi-only thing?
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:04 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Isn't "Mr. Buu" an official name? Or is that just a Funi-only thing?
It is an official name.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by mAcChaos » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:14 pm

Those names feel more confusing to me than just using Super, Kid, Thin and Fat Buu. Those are very distinctive and self explanatory.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:17 pm

I also prefer the Fat/Evil/Good/Super/Kid naming scheme.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:20 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I also prefer the Fat/Evil/Good/Super/Kid naming scheme.
I go by.

Fat
Evil
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Pure(kid). Sounds much better and less confusing.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:35 pm

I go by

Fat Boo

Mr. Boo

Evil Boo

Super Boo

Kid Boo
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Post by Mjb1985 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:30 pm

Yep same here. The official names are way more confusing than need be imo.

Fat , Good, Evil , Super , Kid

Super simple imo.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:31 pm

Well, as long as we're doing this...
Fat
Mr.
Gray
Super
Pure

Mixing up official and unofficial names is fun :twisted:
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Post by Mjb1985 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:37 pm

Yes but why go with Grey Buu when he's only grey in the anime?

Also, why miss out on the simple Good / Evil scheme when it's right there?

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:40 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:Yes but why go with Grey Buu when he's only grey in the anime?

Also, why miss out on the simple Good / Evil scheme when it's right there?
Because it's easier and what people are used to. Also the game labels them like that so that's what we're used to. Also the good and evil scheme is simple to YOU. Pure Evil Boo and Evil Boo are pretty much the same name. Good Boo and Fat Boo are different to a degree

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:41 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:Yes but why go with Grey Buu when he's only grey in the anime?

Also, why miss out on the simple Good / Evil scheme when it's right there?
Because I like the name. And I like "Mr. Buu." It's whimsical; I like whimsy :P
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Post by Mjb1985 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:47 pm

But regarding the split one is good and one is evil. I guess it just seems simple to me. Grey Buu doesn't make sense because he's not even grey in the manga. He's pink.

I don't go by Pure Evil Buu and Evil Buu; that's a mouthful. Good, Evil and Super is the best way imo.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:52 pm

Mjb1985 wrote:But regarding the split one is good and one is evil. I guess it just seems simple to me. Grey Buu doesn't make sense because he's not even grey in the manga. He's pink.

I don't go by Pure Evil Buu and Evil Buu; that's a mouthful. Good, Evil and Super is the best way imo.
It is simple. I just like the other names better. And it's not like anyone if confused about who I'm talking about when I say "Gray Buu."
Incidentally, when do we see him as pink in the manga?
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Post by Mjb1985 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:03 am

I think it was a cover chapter or perhaps Kanzenban rewrite cover chapter? But yea, there is no such thing as grey Buu, at least in the manga. I would think that would be more important to be aware of on this site than others of course.

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Post by mAcChaos » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:05 am

Mjb1985 wrote:But regarding the split one is good and one is evil. I guess it just seems simple to me. Grey Buu doesn't make sense because he's not even grey in the manga. He's pink.

I don't go by Pure Evil Buu and Evil Buu; that's a mouthful. Good, Evil and Super is the best way imo.
Yeah but ALL Buu's are evil. You might as well just call him Buu. Adding "evil" doesn't really show anything. It's only when you we know you mean it in relation to Good Buu that it means anything. Otherwise it would reveal nothing.

But Thin Buu, that's obvious.
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Post by Mjb1985 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:10 am

Kid and Super could be considered thin. Emaciated Buu would probably be more accurate.

Evil is easy because its in relation to Good. As long as you don't go by the Pure Evil and Evil Buu stuff of course.

Evil Buu was around for like 5 panels, lol. We've already discussed him longer than he was in the actual manga.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:10 am

Mjb1985 wrote:I think it was a cover chapter or perhaps Kanzenban rewrite cover chapter? But yea, there is no such thing as grey Buu, at least in the manga. I would think that would be more important to be aware of on this site than others of course.
Meh. I like how the anime pulled off that Buu being different. So...Gray Buu it is. And, as I said, it's not like anyone gets confused by it. Nobody has ever questioned me on who I was talking about. That's what I've always called the guy, so I'm gonna keep calling him that.
And Mr. Buu is an official name, and one that I'm fond of. I think "Good Buu" is too generic.
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Post by Kaboom » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:30 am

I've seen the "Evil" and "Pure Evil" terms get mixed up a LOT by different people using them to refer to different forms of Boo. That's why I prefer to stick to these original terms from the guidebooks and such. The names come from the influence or lack thereof on Boo rather than just his appearance.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:18 am

I always use the official terms, and avoid using dub/fan terms. So no, I won't call Super Yi Xing Long as Omega Shenron, or Evil Boo as Super Boo just so that people can know what I'm saying, because it's like calling someone named Nick as Noki.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:25 am

Incidentally, does anyone else think "Semi-Perfect" Cell is a stupid name? How is something "semi-perfect?" What does that even mean?
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