Next DBZ Movie Featuring Vegeta?

[FortuneSSJ]

Goku losing for the first time was a treat too.

.....Goku did not lose for the first time? He lost plenty of times in Dragonball. Hell he lost twice to Vegeta. He gave up against Cell. That's just naming 2 examples from Z. DragonBALL had much more times of him losing

...i wasnt specific there but i was talking about losing for the first time in a movie.

[Babbu]

I'll just be leaving this here...

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -super-qa/

Seems like over the years Toriyama has come to like Vegeta more than he used to

[Duo]

I'll just be leaving this here...

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -super-qa/

Seems like over the years Toriyama has come to like Vegeta more than he used to

Sometimes I think that it's more so him having to acknowledged that he accidentally developed Vegeta better than the rest of the cast at large, so he's become suitable for the role. I still wish for a story with Piccolo or Tenshinhan being largely relevant, but this at least opens up that road by dethroning Son Goku from the lead part.

[RocktheDragon]

Sometimes I think that it's more so him having to acknowledged that he accidentally developed Vegeta better than the rest of the cast at large, so he's become suitable for the role. I still wish for a story with Piccolo or Tenshinhan being largely relevant, but this at least opens up that road by dethroning Son Goku from the lead part.

I'm right there with you good sir. The further away we get from the usual narrative and protagonist focus on Goku the better chance we have of other stories and characters being utilized some day. Here's hoping!

[superfunk]

I'll just be leaving this here...

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -super-qa/

It seems like Toriyama is getting back into his series and enjoying it, which is nice to see. Did Toriyama just say that vegeta is a kinder saiyan than goku

[GeeRod]

I can't see Vegeta as protagonist and I know he is ''good'' now but I can't, sorry. To me the ''protagonist'' role fits in Goku, Gohan and maybe Mirai Trunks.

[Marco Polo]

I can't see Vegeta as protagonist and I know he is ''good'' now but I can't, sorry. To me the ''protagonist'' role fits in Goku, Gohan and maybe Mirai Trunks.

Yeah a movie starring Future Trunks would be great. He can be both the angry, violent Saiyan warrior AND the kinder, peace-loving human type. Unlike Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta. Plus isn't Future Trunks quite popular among the female fans? This would be a great opportunity for Toei to attract more of that audience.

[Retan]

I can

Vegeta in my opinion is the ultimate bad guy done good, and deserves his own movie,and if it does well enough make a new series that centers on him, and I think both would be great!!

[Retan]

Just a question, but how important are Goku and the Dragonballs to you in the series getting more stuff, such as if Toei decided to do something with other characters not just Vegeta (which is still just a thought in toriyamas head that he's made mention of)?

For me the dragonballs were never anything that interesting, and in many a way kinda hindered the series for me, but the series, and everything else is named after them, but i don't need the characters to revolve around them like planets to a sun, to enjoy the characters, and see the Dragonballs as more of a means to an end then anything else.

Goku, I do love Goku especially when he was kid, but I feel Goku's story really has been told, and while I might miss him, I'd still watch the other characters stories, and hopefully enjoy them just as much, even if he wasn't part of them.

[Michsi]

Thanks a lot for posting the interview and the translation.

I have to admit I was a little surprised about all the in-universe details we were given.

As for Vegeta being a possible protagonist:

I've never been a big fan of Vegeta and when I first read about this I was a little upset about him getting the spotlight, but to be honest..... I'm kinda curious about how that would turn out. Depending on what kind of story they would want to tell and what they would plan to do with his character, it could actually turn out interesting, even for those who don't particularly like him.

[Blade]

I'll just be leaving this here...

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... -super-qa/

It seems like Toriyama is getting back into his series and enjoying it, which is nice to see. Did Toriyama just say that vegeta is a kinder saiyan than goku

It's purely in the context of family. I think what Toriyama is saying is that Vegeta has developed a stronger concept of 'Family' in Human terms than Goku has, who perhaps subconsciously sees his wife and sons as being more like companions to adventure with than family members out Saiyan instinct.

Is that really anything groundbreaking, though? We've already seen that Vegeta actually becomes a pretty good Dad to Trunks, and at least a loyal husband to Bulma. I mean, don't get me wrong - he's not father of the year material, but he's a proud father, who despite lacking a couple of airs and graces, is at least present in the home more often than not. That's more more than we can say for Goku, whom the concepts of 'fatherly duties' probably never even occur.

[Cold Skin]

Vegeta had a very interesting evolution that was in the spotlight of Battle of Gods, so why not?
He has reached a certain state of "unique-ness" in his behavior and his abilities (surpassing Super Saiyan 3 Goku for a short while due to letting his emotions explode like young Gohan) after all of his backstory.

Also, I think Battle of Gods has very much explored or at least reminded the audience of who Goku is, what Goku is like, the kind of magic he is capable of.
And meanwhile, there were still a bit of focus all over the movie of "look how Vegeta has evolved and how he can still surprise you", as if hinting "there's still more to tell and show about that character too", so it would make sense to have a movie exploring more of Vegeta next time, although I don't think Toei would actually accept to take the risk of a movie where Goku is here but is not the main hero. At the very best, they'd be on equal ground.

This was clearly not intended when making this scene, but Vegeta saying "next time, I'll be the Super Saiyan God" could be considered as "next time, I'm taking the main role of the battle/story".
In any case, I think Vegeta is a beloved character that now has quite a backstory and complex personality that would make it interesting to see even more of his reactions and his ways to handle things after his years-long evolution. I believe it would work with the audience, but I also believe Toei would still think it's too risky and would not try it.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I cant really think of any type of plot that would focus on Vegeta while strictly keeping him in character. Since the kid Buu-arc anytime Vegeta's on sceen by himself hes either getting his ass choked, wildly spamming ki blasts or hes humiliating himself in some goofy way wether it be dancing in derp fahion or him driving and being bitched at by bulma or bra. I just cant see who Vegeta is anymore without a motivation besides stalking Goku.

It seems like Toriyama is getting back into his series and enjoying it, which is nice to see. Did Toriyama just say that vegeta is a kinder saiyan than goku

Apparently.
- Goku just simply gave up when the Earth could have easily been destroyed by Bills/Beerus.
- Watching all his friends getting beat up for his own amusement as he admitted at the end.
- and destroying King Kai's planet in sheer frustration with himself.
I dont really remember Goku being like that before this movie.

if there is a new movie (which i believe it will be) i want a serious one like the others.
Battle of Gods light atmosphere was perfect for the series return. Goku losing for the first time was a treat too. But in the next one i want more action.

As far as I can tell, Toriyama's just tossing around ideas; but I have no doubt that some where, someone on the internet has misinterpreted this as an official announcement for a new film.

just the normal.

There needs to be more darker, serious tones and actual beatdowns like in the old films... and less plotholes. The old movies were much more memorable because of its action and sense of struggle with every near-apocalyptic atmosphere the villains brought. Bills/Beerus was just a spoiled party-pooper. *yawn*

[ChiChiFan]

Ehh, I don't care for Vegeta but I'll watch since it's another DBZ movie.

[Ryuman]

I just cant see who Vegeta is anymore without a motivation besides stalking Goku.

Nah, he just seems to have softened up. Also, the dancing scene in BOG is funny because it's out of character. We see him training earlier, so he's still pretty serious about stuff. This current depiction overall is a lot better than his blindly angry and stupid personality from the Cell arc, in my opinion. Even pre-Cell Vegeta would've gotten old eventually to me.

It seems like Toriyama is getting back into his series and enjoying it, which is nice to see. Did Toriyama just say that vegeta is a kinder saiyan than goku

Apparently.
- Goku just simply gave up when the Earth could have easily been destroyed by Bills/Beerus.
- Watching all his friends getting beat up for his own amusement as he admitted at the end.
- and destroying King Kai's planet in sheer frustration with himself.
I dont really remember Goku being like that before this movie.

That's not really what he's getting at. Like others said before, Vegeta just understands more about what family is, whereas Goku just sees everyone as a friend and restricts interaction with them to very casual forms.

About your points on his behaviour:
- There wasn't really much else he could do. He gave up because he completely lost.
- I'm not too sure about this one. It's seems like post-Buu Goku. I think he was just interested in observing Beerus' fighting manner and seeing how strong everyone (Particularly Vegeta) had gotten.
- What bit is this? When he was fighting Beerus? I dunno. Kaio seems a bit of a punching bag sometimes . He was rather cocky the whole way though. Taught him a good lesson.
That's what I think, anyway.

[Retan]

I just cant see who Vegeta is anymore without a motivation besides stalking Goku.

Nah, he just seems to have softened up. Also, the dancing scene in BOG is funny because it's out of character. We see him training earlier, so he's still pretty serious about stuff. This current depiction overall is a lot better than his blindly angry and stupid personality from the Cell arc, in my opinion. Even pre-Cell Vegeta would've gotten old eventually to me.

It seems like Toriyama is getting back into his series and enjoying it, which is nice to see. Did Toriyama just say that vegeta is a kinder saiyan than goku

Apparently.
- Goku just simply gave up when the Earth could have easily been destroyed by Bills/Beerus.
- Watching all his friends getting beat up for his own amusement as he admitted at the end.
- and destroying King Kai's planet in sheer frustration with himself.
I dont really remember Goku being like that before this movie.

That's not really what he's getting at. Like others said before, Vegeta just understands more about what family is, whereas Goku just sees everyone as a friend and restricts interaction with them to very casual forms.
About your points on his behaviour:
- There wasn't really much else he could do. He gave up because he completely lost.
- I'm not too sure about this one. It's seems like post-Buu Goku. I think he was just interested in observing Beerus' fighting manner and seeing how strong everyone (Particularly Vegeta) had gotten.
- What bit is this? When he was fighting Beerus? I dunno. Kaio seems a bit of a punching bag sometimes . He was rather cocky the whole way though. Taught him a good lesson.
That's what I think, anyway.

He's talking about when Goku shot the Kamehameha around King kais planet at himself.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Also, the dancing scene in BOG is funny because it's out of character.

Agreed, that was the whole point. Same with Piccolo singing in karaoke.

[Ryuman]

He's talking about when Goku shot the Kamehameha around King kais planet at himself.

In that case, he was just training. He says so much himself.

[Blade]

Nah, he just seems to have softened up. Also, the dancing scene in BOG is funny because it's out of character.

I dunno, I think it's very much in character - as it's clear that Toriyama wanted to depict exactly the person that Vegeta had grown into through many years of living on Earth in peace times. Would Vegeta have been willing to sacrifice his pride so easily when hopelessly outclassed ten years previously? No, he blew himself up - but even then he did so having held his son in his arms crying, something he wouldn't have done ten years prior to that. For all that Toriyama is often criticised for his cardboard-cut-out characters, I think it's at least fair to say that no one has an entirely static personality throughout their entire involvement in the story.

I call that character development.

[Ryuman]

Nah, he just seems to have softened up. Also, the dancing scene in BOG is funny because it's out of character.

I dunno, I think it's very much in character - as it's clear that Toriyama wanted to depict exactly the person that Vegeta had grown into through many years of living on Earth in peace times. Would Vegeta have been willing to sacrifice his pride so easily when hopelessly outclassed ten years previously? No, he blew himself up - but even then he did so having held his son in his arms crying, something he wouldn't have done ten years prior to that. For all that Toriyama is often criticised for his cardboard-cut-out characters, I think it's at least fair to say that no one has an entirely static personality throughout their entire involvement in the story.

I call that character development.

Oh yeah, I totally get that. You're right. It's still not something we're used to seeing from him though. It's still crazy for everyone to watch. Thanks for bringing that up, I completely forgot to give Vegeta the credit he deserves there.