BoG/Rof & GT are not in the same universe.

[Demon187]

The Bardock movie was actualy canon too

[Dyno]

The Bardock movie was actualy canon too

Some scenes still are.

[Mystic Tien]

They clearly aren't in the same timeline no matter why guides say(also ignoring those huides came out before Bog and Rof)

Goku using SSJ4 which is a clearly inferior form to SSJG

Freeza in hell is different from Gt

Freeza golden form is no where to be seen in Gt

Goku's blue SSJG form is no where as well as Vegeta's blue SSJG form

Vegeta is a lot weaker than Goku for most of Gt where in the canon series Vegeta is not that far behind Goku seeing as he has a God form

Cooler was in Gt which alone tells you it's a different timeline

So all in all Gt is a different timeline from the actual series and it won't ever be apart of the main series unless it's actually mentioned no guidebook is going to change that

Goku not using BSJG in the manga which is clearly superior to everything else he has.

Frieza isn't even in hell in manga, and people don't keep their bodies according to it. Not only that, but by Toriyama's statement, the more evil is a person, the faster he reincarnates. Toriyama also states that Frieza is the only truly bad person who has no redeemable qualities.

Goku's SSJG is no where to be seen in the end of manga.

Goku's blue SSJG form is no where as well as Vegeta's blue SSJG form

Vegeta is a lot weaker than Goku for most of manga where in the movie Vegeta is not that far behind Goku seeing as he has a God form

King Vegeta was in Z, but wasn't in manga, which alone tells you it's a different timeline

So all in all manga is a different timeline from the actual movies and it won't ever be apart of the main series unless it's actually mentioned no guidebook is going to change that

You see. I can do that as well.

No, actually there are far more "things" pointing Dragon Ball GT is not canon. There aren't statements saying he is part of the main continuity, on the other hand, there are statements saying he isn't meant to be taken as a real continuation. But you know... You can have your... What do they say/call? "Headcanon", isn't?

There are zero things pointing Dragon Ball GT is not canon, besides fans wanting for it to be like that. It was made by the same studio as all previous series, Toriyama approved it, and claimed it being a side-story of his manga which is as close to canon as even possible. He never said such things about DBZ for example.

It's pretty clear that they aren't in the same universe, we have Golden Freeza now, Blue SSJ, Toriyamas hell, the Pilaf gang being too young etc. there's too many things going against the new movies and GT fitting together. A lot of things need to happen for BoG and RoF to fit with GT so for now, as things stand, it's impossible.

It's pretty clear that BoG, FnF and manga aren't in the same universe, we have Golden Frieza now, Blueper SSJ, Beerus and Whis while Goku stated in the end of manga that the strongest foe he ever fought was Majin Buu, not Beerus or Frieza, and he was excited to fight with Uub. There's too many things going against the new movies and manga fitting together. A lot of things need to happen for BoG and RoF to fit with manga, so for now, as things stand, it's impossible.

Official statements? ?

Akira Toriyama already said Gt is nothing but a side story

I can say Gt isn't canon to Bog and Rof because it isn't for numerous reasons as I've and others pointed out

Akira certainly doesn't think of GT as a continuation of his story

Gt will more than likely never be canon

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=29426

Wasn't there a Vsau e video that said something about if you have to come up with more and more explanations to prove your point, it's most likely false? This is what's happening with those who connect RoF and GT. Many many many changes would have to occur after RoF and GT. Let's not forget to mention that several more wishes from Shenron have been made. Surely the dragon balls would have been corrupt long before GT. Plus with Shenron being summoned in Wrath of the Dragon as well, that's 4 or so wishes being granted in a 5 or so year time frame. The ones throughout Dragon Ball to Z were a bit more spread out.

I guess there is no point in arguments as well, because a lot of things in DBZ don't make sense, and even manga has these things as well as a couple of plotholes. Not only that, BoG and FnF have plenty of inconsistencies with manga as well.

[Darkprince410]

Freeza isn't even in hell in manga, and people don't keep their bodies according to it. Not only that, but by Toriyama's statement, the more evil is a person, the faster he reincarnates. Toriyama also states that Freeza is the only truly bad person who has no redeemable qualities.

We're never told how long the reincarnation process takes, nor the length of time punishment before reincarnation takes place. Toriyama based the afterlife system for Dragon Ball off Buddhist mythology, and in said mythology, truly evil beings are punished for a length of time prior to reincarnation. So what we see of Freeza coincides with that. As for not keeping bodies in the afterlife, we're never shown Hell in the manga at all, so for starters there's no reason to say that "Freeza isn't even in Hell". Likewise, Piccolo's comment was towards Vegeta, who had a particularly muddy history in terms of his orientation. He had been evil for a long time, swayed to "good" for a number of years after, reverted to evil briefly to face Goku again, and then sacrificed himself to try and destroy Buu (a seemingly noble act). This could very well have influenced where Enma would have sent him (and where Piccolo assumed he'd be sent), as he may not have been evil enough to be punished like Freeza, but he was still going to be sent to Hell.

Goku's SSJG is no where to be seen in the end of manga.

As we see in Revival of F, even with the god ki within his base form, his appearance in his base form is normal. There's no unique variation to it at all, so you couldn't reasonably tell just by appearance if he was augmented with god ki or not.

Goku's blue SSJG form is no where as well as Vegeta's blue SSJG form

We don't see either of them transform into a Super Saiya-jin at any point during the events of the 28th Budoukai, so you can't say that they were capable of their Ssj God Ssj forms.

Vegeta is a lot weaker than Goku for most of manga where in the movie Vegeta is not that far behind Goku seeing as he has a God form

By the end of the Buu Saga, as in when Goku had defeated Buu, Goku and Vegeta were equal in terms of strength in their base, Ssj, and Ssj2 forms, with Goku only having the strength advantage due to Ssj3. Assuming this didn't change between the end of the Buu storyline and Battle of Gods, they'd have still been basically the same strength wise, which would fit closely with how they seemingly are equal with one another come Revival of F.

King Vegeta was in Z, but wasn't in manga, which alone tells you it's a different timeline

Even though he's not physically shown, he's still referenced as existing, so I don't see why that's an issue.

It's pretty clear that BoG, FnF and manga aren't in the same universe, we have Golden Freeza now, Blueper SSJ, Beerus and Whis while Goku stated in the end of manga that the strongest foe he ever fought was Majin Buu

He never mentions Buu being the strongest enemy he ever fought during the events of the 28th Budoukai. All he mentions is how he knows Uub is incredible, and refers to Buu as being "outrageously bad". Nothing ever mentioned about Buu being the strongest enemy he ever faced.

[Dyno]

King Vegeta was in Z, but wasn't in manga, which alone tells you it's a different timeline

King Vegeta is mentioned in the manga, not to mention he appears in Movie 14. So no... It's not a "different timeline".

There are zero things pointing Dragon Ball GT is not canon, besides fans wanting for it to be like that. It was made by the same studio as all previous series, Toriyama approved it, and claimed it being a side-story of his manga which is as close to canon as even possible. He never said such things about DBZ for example.

All I see are fans wanting GT to be canon, when isn't. But whatever, this is pointless to discuss since there are facts involved.

[Mystic Tien]

We're never told how long the reincarnation process takes, nor the length of time punishment before reincarnation takes place. Toriyama based the afterlife system for Dragon Ball off Buddhist mythology, and in said mythology, truly evil beings are punished for a length of time prior to reincarnation. So what we see of Freeza coincides with that. As for not keeping bodies in the afterlife, we're never shown Hell in the manga at all, so for starters there's no reason to say that "Freeza isn't even in Hell". Likewise, Piccolo's comment was towards Vegeta, who had a particularly muddy history in terms of his orientation. He had been evil for a long time, swayed to "good" for a number of years after, reverted to evil briefly to face Goku again, and then sacrificed himself to try and destroy Buu (a seemingly noble act). This could very well have influenced where Enma would have sent him (and where Piccolo assumed he'd be sent), as he may not have been evil enough to be punished like Freeza, but he was still going to be sent to Hell.

Yet Toriyama stated that Evil Buu was reincarnated that fast because he was pure evil, and then he told in the interview that only Frieza was truly bad, which means that Frieza was move evil than Buu, which means that he should have been reincarnated even faster. Yes, to be more precise I should have stated, that he shouldn't have even been in hell, because according to Toriyama's statements, he should have been reincarnated a long time ago.

As we see in Revival of F, even with the god ki within his base form, his appearance in his base form is normal. There's no unique variation to it at all, so you couldn't reasonably tell just by appearance if he was augmented with god ki or not.

Yet, he was excited to fight with Uub and didn't even bother to use all of his power? Not that it matters, though, Goku in base after BoG is leagues stronger than his SSJ3 self from Buu arc.

We don't see either of them transform into a Super Saiya-jin at any point during the events of the 28th Budoukai, so you can't say that they were capable of their Ssj God Ssj forms.

Goku didn't transform while fighting with Uub, and it is enough for me, this is the exact argument which people use when they are trying to invalidate GT by saying that he didn't use BSSJG in GT.

By the end of the Buu Saga, as in when Goku had defeated Buu, Goku and Vegeta were equal in terms of strength in their base, Ssj, and Ssj2 forms, with Goku only having the strength advantage due to Ssj3. Assuming this didn't change between the end of the Buu storyline and Battle of Gods, they'd have still been basically the same strength wise, which would fit closely with how they seemingly are equal with one another come Revival of F.

Not quite true, as we never saw the ending of their battle. And Vegeta admitted in the end of Buu arc, that Goku was better than him, and that he won't be able to surpass him.

Even though he's not physically shown, he's still referenced as existing, so I don't see why that's an issue.

The one King Vegeta we saw in BoG was his anime counterpart. He even had red hair. We never saw Toriyama's view on King Vegeta.

He never mentions Buu being the strongest enemy he ever fought during the events of the 28th Budoukai. All he mentions is how he knows Uub is incredible, and refers to Buu as being "outrageously bad". Nothing ever mentioned about Buu being the strongest enemy he ever faced.

I checked, he indeed seems to say "evil", but whatever, doesn't change anything. Goku was hyped to fight with a guy who was much weaker than Frieza, let alone Beerus and himself.

King Vegeta is mentioned in the manga, not to mention he appears in Movie 14. So no... It's not a "different timeline".

Manga has at the very least four timelines. And movie is a movie. Just because someone was mentioned somewhere, doesn't mean anything. Bardock was mentioned in the manga, yet he is different from anime Bardock.

All I see are fans wanting GT to be canon, when isn't. But whatever, this is pointless to discuss since there are facts involved.

GT is canon. Everything official made by Toriyama and Toei is canon. Whenever it is a part of the same continuity or not, it is a different question. But does it even matter? Because nothing which we see after Cell's saga is an actual part of original timeline, it is the alternate timeline which was created by Trunks going to the past. Cell altered it even more. So pretty much in any way BoG is in alternate timeline, does it really matter if it is the same timeline as the one which we saw in Buu arc or not? Does it really matter if GT is in the same timeline as Buu arc or no? I don't think that it does.

[Dyno]

What the hell...

Yes we saw, Toriyama drew a King Vegeta "manga version" where obviously his hair is black, but all his appearance will be with red hair, because that's his color. Battle of Gods just puts this into canon continuity, since this movie, unlike the previous ones, is in the same continuity as the manga.

And no, Bardock also appears in the manga. The "anime version" you say is just a part of the TV Special, while his fight against Freeza was "transported" to the manga as well.

[buutenks]

GT is a continuation of the dbz anime not manga and has no connection with BOG and ROF.

BOG and ROF try to be part of the manga,by taking place in the 10 year gap.Ofc there are allot of contradictions between the 2 movies and the final manga chapters.

The dbz end chapters contradict bog and ROF quite heavily,so unless toriyama himself rewrites the end of z(which i somehow doubt he will) then bog and rof are not part of the manga,but they are part of the dbz universe.

[Mystic Tien]

What the hell...

Yes we saw, Toriyama drew a King Vegeta "manga version" where obviously his hair is black, but all his appearance will be with red hair, because that's his color. Battle of Gods just puts this into canon continuity, since this movie, unlike the previous ones, is in the same continuity as the manga.

And no, Bardock also appears in the manga. The "anime version" you say is just a part of the TV Special, while his fight against Freeza was "transported" to the manga as well.

He wasn't in the manga though. And we saw only his head. My point is - what we see in BoG is Toei's depiction of King Vegeta, not Toriyama's one. So he very well may count as a filler character.

I know that Bardock is in manga. Yet Bardock in the manga is a caring father, who loves his son and wife.

The point is: what is manga continuity? It is only Dragon Ball manga? Is it Dragon Ball Minus, Dr.Slump and other works by Toriyama? Because we have two quotes by Toriyama. I list them here:

Did you put in any requests when it was made into an anime, Sensei?
Toriyama:
No, not at all. Anime has its own way of doing things, so I think it’s better to leave it to the professionals. Manga and anime are separate things, but I suppose it’s best when you get the feeling that “they’re connected somehow”. At the start of serialization, I didn’t even know if I’d be able to please the readers, so I wasn’t even thinking about it being made into an anime.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... ma-nozawa/

And

What is your personal stance on Dragon Ball’s theatrical films, Sensei?
I take the movies as “stories in a different dimension from the main story of the comic”. I’m entirely just an audience member for them.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... interview/

It seems that for Toriyama only his manga is placed in manga continuity.

[Dyno]

No, he can't. Again, King Vegeta was mentioned in the manga and he appears in the Movie 14, he is not a filler character.

"It seems that for Toriyama only his manga is placed in manga continuity."

Exactly, if for Toriyama his manga is the "main continuity", why fans would argue about it? If he does not consider GT (he indeed doesn't consider it) to be part of this main continuity, why fans continue to debate over and over about it? There's so much nonsense and pointless.

[buutenks]

I dont see why it matters of gt is 'canon' or not.Its self sustained,it doesnt need to be canon to the manga or w/e.

[Darkprince410]

Yet Toriyama stated that Evil Buu was reincarnated that fast because he was pure evil, and then he told in the interview that only Freeza was truly bad, which means that Freeza was move evil than Buu, which means that he should have been reincarnated even faster. Yes, to be more precise I should have stated, that he shouldn't have even been in hell, because according to Toriyama's statements, he should have been reincarnated a long time ago.

Goku was hoping for Buu to be reincarnated within his life time in order to be able to fight him again. If Enma was easily capable of "fixing it" to where Uub would turn out to be good, don't you think he'd readily be able to speed up the process of reincarnation as well? Given that Enma was specifically pulling strings for Goku for the sake of reincarnating Uub, I don't believe Uub's case is a valid one to determine how fast someone should be reincarnated.

Goku didn't transform while fighting with Uub, and it is enough for me, this is the exact argument which people use when they are trying to invalidate GT by saying that he didn't use BSSJG in GT.

Except for the 28th Budoukai, Goku had no reason to transform, yet we see him repeatedly transform into a Super Saiya-jin in GT, and his hair not exhibit the blue color. The 28th Budoukai still leaves it open, whereas what we see in GT contradicts that.

Not quite true, as we never saw the ending of their battle. And Vegeta admitted in the end of Buu arc, that Goku was better than him, and that he won't be able to surpass him.

Goku outright states that the two are even in terms of power when the two are fighting.

Goku: “Un-unbelievable…I thought I trained considerably in the afterlife…But we’re completely even…You trained more than me…”

Yes, Vegeta does admit that Goku was better than him, and readily admits he's #1, but that doesn't mean that Vegeta wouldn't be able to stay close to, if not match, Goku's strength.

The one King Vegeta we saw in BoG was his anime counterpart. He even had red hair. We never saw Toriyama's view on King Vegeta.

Considering that Toriyama was the one that designed King Vegeta in the first place, even though he didn't appear in the manga, I don't think what we saw in Battle of Gods is some vastly alternate version of him.

The dbz end chapters contradict bog and ROF quite heavily,so unless toriyama himself rewrites the end of z(which i somehow doubt he will) then bog and rof are not part of the manga,but they are part of the dbz universe.

They don't contradict the 28th Budoukai events that significantly to where they couldn't possibly exist together, and given that there's still a few years between the end of Revival of F and the 28th Budoukai events to straighten out any of the contradictions that do exist, I wouldn't throw them out just yet. Besides, Toriyama himself said they were written as if they were continuations of the manga, which means that even if people don't like to see them as being in the same continuity as the manga, according to Toriyama, they are.

It seems that for Toriyama only his manga is placed in manga continuity.

That's taken out of context though, for that interview took place in 1995, nearly a decade before Battle of Gods came out, and certainly several years before the idea was first devised. At the time, it was just the first thirteen Z movies, not Battle of Gods or Revival of F. According to Toriyama, Battle of Gods was devised as:

I tried thinking up an original story, imagining it as though [the manga’s] serialization had continued.

Which means he intentionally came up with the story under the premise of it being in the same continuity as the manga.

[buutenks]

Yes, Vegeta does admit that Goku was better than him, and readily admits he's #1, but that doesn't mean that Vegeta wouldn't be able to stay close to, if not match, Goku's strength.

I wonder what vegeta was talking about though.Since obviously in power him saying goku is the strongest is wrong since gohan was leagues above him in power.

So I'm guessing he meant like goku is number one due to his character or something like that.

[Mystic Tien]

No, he can't. Again, King Vegeta was mentioned in the manga and he appears in the Movie 14, he is not a filler character.

"It seems that for Toriyama only his manga is placed in manga continuity."

Exactly, if for Toriyama his manga is the "main continuity", why fans would argue about it? If he does not consider GT (he indeed doesn't consider it) to be part of this main continuity, why fans continue to debate over and over about it? There's so much nonsense and pointless.

The person who never appeared in the manga and was only mentioned there can't be not a filler character. Bardock was a filler character, until he appeared in manga, and if he never appeared in manga or DBM, he would have stayed a filler character till this day, just like Broly and everybody else.

Yeah, but for some reasons people want to include anime and everything else in the main continuity, which doesn't seem to be true. If we go with just manga being a main continuity, and anime being a secondary one, based on manga, then I won't have any problems.

[Mystic Tien]

Goku was hoping for Buu to be reincarnated within his life time in order to be able to fight him again. If Enma was easily capable of "fixing it" to where Uub would turn out to be good, don't you think he'd readily be able to speed up the process of reincarnation as well? Given that Enma was specifically pulling strings for Goku for the sake of reincarnating Uub, I don't believe Uub's case is a valid one to determine how fast someone should be reincarnated.

This is just a theory though. Goku just assumed it. It is not that he knew it for sure. And Toriyama's statement is a completely different, cause what he directly states is:

Majin Buu is invincible, but where does he get his energy from? It can’t be from all that candy he eats, can it…?
He doesn’t particularly need energy. It’s just that he likes candy.

By the way, since the bad Buu was pure evil, he was easily purified in the afterlife, and was able to be reincarnated as Uub right away.

No mention of Enma, no mention of anyone. Just that Buu was pure evil, and because of this, he was easily purified, and was able to incarnate right away. What makes Frieza so different from him? And this is not a sole example to be honest. The other one is Piccolo Daimao, he was reincarnated right away as well.

Except for the 28th Budoukai, Goku had no reason to transform, yet we see him repeatedly transform into a Super Saiya-jin in GT, and his hair not exhibit the blue color. The 28th Budoukai still leaves it open, whereas what we see in GT contradicts that.

And why he didn't? In GT most of his enemies until Baby Vegeta were not strong enough to even bother. Besides turning SSJ Blueper is only valid when you combine your God Energy with SSJ. If you do it without using it, I guess, the hair colour won't change. He could stop using it because he didn't see much a reason in it. Goku barely transformed into SSJ2 (if at all) in GT, people don't say that he lost it there, though? Not that it was a point of my argument, though.

Goku outright states that the two are even in terms of power when the two are fighting.

Goku: “Un-unbelievable…I thought I trained considerably in the afterlife…But we’re completely even…You trained more than me…”

And Goku is lying. Because he trained more than Vegeta and achieved SSJ3, which Vegeta didn't have a chance to get even now.

Yes, Vegeta does admit that Goku was better than him, and readily admits he's #1, but that doesn't mean that Vegeta wouldn't be able to stay close to, if not match, Goku's strength.

Vegeta won't be able to do so, until his mind become clear, and he knows it fully well. Even Whis pointed it out, his mind should be clear to be able for him to move and fight much faster. His blind rage and his mind is what makes him weak. So yeah, consistently Vegeta was weaker than Goku, just (I think) because of that. He even said it himself during his speech in Buu arc.

Considering that Toriyama was the one that designed King Vegeta in the first place, even though he didn't appear in the manga, I don't think what we saw in Battle of Gods is some vastly alternate version of him.

Broly was designed by Toriyama as well, but we don't consider him as anything more than a filler character, right? Not only that, Toriyama designed only his head, and it was never shown in a manga. Moreover I am pretty sure that Toriyama's King Vegeta will have black hair, not red hair, with design of which Toei came up in DBZ.

They don't contradict the 28th Budoukai events that significantly to where they couldn't possibly exist together, and given that there's still a few years between the end of Revival of F and the 28th Budoukai events to straighten out any of the contradictions that do exist, I wouldn't throw them out just yet. Besides, Toriyama himself said they were written as if they were continuations of the manga, which means that even if people don't like to see them as being in the same continuity as the manga, according to Toriyama, they are.

The same can be said for GT. My original point was much simpler actually. Contradictions don't make something not canon. That's all.

Toriyama said the same thing for GT, yet for some reasons this argument for BoG counts, but for GT doesn't.

Good work. To think they’d make Goku little. With this story, I might even be able to continue the manga serialization again… though I have absolutely no intention of drawing it.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... ong-times/

That's taken out of context though, for that interview took place in 1995, nearly a decade before Battle of Gods came out, and certainly several years before the idea was first devised. At the time, it was just the first thirteen Z movies, not Battle of Gods or Revival of F. According to Toriyama, Battle of Gods was devised as:

I tried thinking up an original story, imagining it as though [the manga’s] serialization had continued.

Which means he intentionally came up with the story under the premise of it being in the same continuity as the manga.

People are doing the same thing by making BoG and FnF fit with manga, which was released years later and was never intended to have or imply events which happened in BoG. The same way with GT by the way.

[Darkprince410]

This is just a theory though. Goku just assumed it. It is not that he knew it for sure. And Toriyama's statement is a completely different, cause what he directly states is:

Toriyama's statement doesn't say anything that contradicts the notion that Enma pulled strings to affect the reincarnation process, just that because Buu was pure evil, it helped speed things along quickly.

What makes Freeza so different from him? And this is not a sole example to be honest. The other one is Piccolo Daimao, he was reincarnated right away as well.

Daimao transferred his spirit into the egg moments before he died, so his "reincarnation" wasn't related to the afterlife at all. If anything, his actions cheated death. As for Freeza, again, Goku surmised that Enma pulled strings for Uub's reincarnation, and there's no reason to assume that his belief in that matter was baseless. So since Goku wanted to fight a good version of Buu, Enma pulled strings to get Uub reincarnated quickly, and since the same courtesy wasn't given to Freeza, the process of punishment/reincarnation was still in the works.

And why he didn't? In GT most of his enemies until Baby Vegeta were not strong enough to even bother. Besides turning SSJ Blueper is only valid when you combine your God Energy with SSJ. If you do it without using it, I guess, the hair colour won't change. He could stop using it because he didn't see much a reason in it. Goku barely transformed into SSJ2 (if at all) in GT, people don't say that he lost it there, though? Not that it was a point of my argument, though.

The god ki is, currently though, a part of their base form. It's not something that they can just ignore or not. Besides, even if it was something they didn't have to manifest when they transformed (that their transformations could ignore any god ki they had), given how significantly both Goku and Vegeta get throttled in their non Ssj4 forms, don't you think that they'd want to use that god ki if they had access to it? People aren't going to say that Goku lost Ssj2 in GT because he clearly used it at least once. With Ssj God Ssj though, there's no sign of it at any point in GT, even when they're getting pummeled by their opponents.

And Goku is lying. Because he trained more than Vegeta and achieved SSJ3, which Vegeta didn't have a chance to get even now.

But Super Saiya-jin 3 is the only thing that Goku had over Vegeta at the time he stated that line. Thanks to the Ma-jin seal, which was established to bring an individual past their limits, Vegeta closed the gap he had with Goku, to where they were completely even in their respective forms.

Toriyama said the same thing for GT, yet for some reasons this argument for BoG counts, but for GT doesn't.

The context of the statement is what matters most. He isn't saying that he would write a continuation of the manga serialization using GT as the premise, but that he liked the idea of turning Goku young, and could have used that as a premise to continue the manga, but he didn't want to draw it.

People are doing the same thing by making BoG and FnF fit with manga, which was released years later and was never intended to have or imply events which happened in BoG. The same way with GT by the way.

People are doing that with Battle of Gods and Revival of F because not only are we given the time frame of when the movies take place, but we're given indication that they take place in the same continuity as the manga, so naturally people are going to try and figure out how to make them work with one another. With GT though, it's always existed as a continuation of the anime, not the manga, and since Battle of Gods and Revival of F are in the manga's continuity, the two continuities don't align with one another.

[Bacon Skittles]

Let's also look at how Freeza is in the anime after he dies. GT is a sequel to a version of the anime where the fillers and movies (1-13) occur. When Freeza died he regained his body in Hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSjzW5Om7T0
He still has it in Fusion Reborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yNlPL9unj0

Yet RoF shows that he's in his mechanized form when he's in Hell.

[Cipher]

Let's also look at how Freeza is in the anime after he dies. GT is a sequel to a version of the anime where the fillers and movies (1-13) occur. When Freeza died he regained his body in Hell.

Anime: Yes. I think including the thirteen movies (other than ones that easily fit, and probably including Movie 13 for its introduction of Dragon Fist), is really overstepping. It all seems to be predicated on a two-second background cameo from Coola; frankly it's easier to write that off as an Easter egg or mistake.

Including some version of all thirteen movies would take some rather radical revision, and it's obvious Toei didn't intend for it to have a separate background from the anime series viewers had seen.

[Hellspawn28]

Having his cyborg body in Hell makes more sense since he died as a cyborg. Not having it in Hell in the anime never makes sense to me. Why does Dr. Gero in the anime keep his cyborg body and does not return back to human while Freeza returns to his 4th form in Hell in the anime?

[Bacon Skittles]

The Bardock movie was actualy canon too

Actually Minus overrides Bardock's special from being manga canon, though it is canon to the anime canon.