Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by Lord Frieza » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:43 pm

I think the main reason Beerus and the other gods of destruction are needed is because the universe's of DB are actually rather small. Universe 7 only contains four galaxies and maybe there's a reason for that. They aren't infinity like ours, they have a limited amount of space. The gods of destruction's role is likely to stop the matter/energy of their universe's exceeding its limits and potential destroying them in the same way the Supreme Kai of Time and the Time Patrol work to prevent the same thing occurring when to much "time" is generated by alternate realities being created.

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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:58 pm

We're told in the Daizenshu that the term "galaxy" used to describe the four cardinal direction quadrants that the Kaio watch over is simply an administrational unit (also called areas or regions in the series and guides), so that doesn't mean it's an exact equivalent to a real world galaxy.
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by Lord Frieza » Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:09 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:We're told in the Daizenshu that the term "galaxy" used to describe the four cardinal direction quadrants that the Kaio watch over is simply an administrational unit (also called areas or regions in the series and guides), so that doesn't mean it's an exact equivalent to a real world galaxy.
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by mAcChaos » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:08 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:So he's the God of Destruction, supposed to destroy planets to bring balance, and blah blah blah. But, first of all, can't the Kaioshin just stop creating planets if they feel the universe reaches some sort of capacity or whatever?

Secondly, and most importantly, he's terrible at his job. He's not weeding out deteriorated planets, planets with evil sentient beings, or planets with beings he views as a threat to the rest of the universe; Beerus just blows up whatever he wants whenever his jimmies are rustled. He seems to also be a horrible team player with the rest of the gods, and is quick to bring harm to them.

Let's be serious here, he's a bad guy, deserves to die, and should be replaced ASAP. On that note, I hope Champa's role is to bring justice, and eats him or something.
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:28 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:So he's the God of Destruction, supposed to destroy planets to bring balance, and blah blah blah. But, first of all, can't the Kaioshin just stop creating planets if they feel the universe reaches some sort of capacity or whatever?

Secondly, and most importantly, he's terrible at his job. He's not weeding out deteriorated planets, planets with evil sentient beings, or planets with beings he views as a threat to the rest of the universe; Beerus just blows up whatever he wants whenever his jimmies are rustled. He seems to also be a horrible team player with the rest of the gods, and is quick to bring harm to them.

Let's be serious here, he's a bad guy, deserves to die, and should be replaced ASAP. On that note, I hope Champa's role is to bring justice, and eats him or something.
It'd be cool if Beerus was so shit at his job, that Fat Beerus and Fem Whis have come to replace the two. Then an epic battle ensues between the 4 of them.
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by Sayo-chan » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:11 am

I think the obvious answer here is no. In fact, not only does he deserve to die, he deserves to not exist in the universe at all; he's a bad idea. There comes a point where you break the mysticism of something so much that it loses meaning. Take Alien for example. It's a near perfect horror movie. There's so much left in the dark (literally). It's terrifying because of how unknown it is. Aliens was great, perhaps better than the first, but somewhere down the road the franchise lost what made it so well constructed. So much that the creature lost its position as a creature of nightmare, to the point that little kids were trick or treating as Xenomorphs. When you expose too much you lessen your audience's suspension of disbelief, you put too much weight on the story's foundation and create inconsistencies. It's the exact same deal with Dragon Ball. I'd argue that even the Kaios were too much, but at least it still left a lot to the imagination, and it didn't feel like a convoluted mess that made the previous segments seem insignificant. I'd strictly draw the line at the Kaioshins, purely because I like their presentation in the Boo arc (bias).
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:12 pm

Sayo-chan wrote:I think the obvious answer here is no. In fact, not only does he deserve to die, he deserves to not exist in the universe at all; he's a bad idea. There comes a point where you break the mysticism of something so much that it loses meaning. Take Alien for example. It's a near perfect horror movie. There's so much left in the dark (literally). It's terrifying because of how unknown it is. Aliens was great, perhaps better than the first, but somewhere down the road the franchise lost what made it so well constructed. So much that the creature lost its position as a creature of nightmare, to the point that little kids were trick or treating as Xenomorphs. When you expose too much you lessen your audience's suspension of disbelief, you put too much weight on the story's foundation and create inconsistencies. It's the exact same deal with Dragon Ball. I'd argue that even the Kaios were too much, but at least it still left a lot to the imagination, and it didn't feel like a convoluted mess that made the previous segments seem insignificant. I'd strictly draw the line at the Kaioshins, purely because I like their presentation in the Boo arc (bias).
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:14 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Wait until they reveal the set of Super Kaioshins that rule over the multiverse. Oh, and the one who oversees them.
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by singsing » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:21 pm

Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Wait until they reveal the set of Super Kaioshins that rule over the multiverse. Oh, and the one who oversees them.
5 bucks it was the Oracle Fish all along.
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:27 pm

Doctor. wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Wait until they reveal the set of Super Kaioshins that rule over the multiverse. Oh, and the one who oversees them.
5 bucks it was the Oracle Fish all along.
He prob trained Whis.
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by TheUltimateVegito » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:54 pm

It's funny because in Xenoverse Beerus claims that his primary motive is to maintain balance, and that he doesn't just do it on a whim despite admitting to blowing up hundreds of planets due to them ticking him off for frivolous reasons.
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Re: Is Beerus' existence really necessary?

Post by mAcChaos » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:07 pm

TheUltimateVegito wrote:It's funny because in Xenoverse Beerus claims that his primary motive is to maintain balance, and that he doesn't just do it on a whim despite admitting to blowing up hundreds of planets due to them ticking him off for frivolous reasons.
Maybe him blowing up planets on whimsy is part of that balance.
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