Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by Kagari » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:07 am

Zeru14 wrote:It seems Gohan, might get back into action again if the new ending is anything to go by, since he cant find his gi, it seems he will just wear his Great Saiyaman outfit.
I'm not opposed to this at all. Great Saiyaman arc was really good and I wish we had more of it!

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by MozillaVulpix » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:11 am

Zeru14 wrote:It seems Gohan, might get back into action again if the new ending is anything to go by, since he cant find his gi, it seems he will just wear his Great Saiyaman outfit.
You have no idea how much I'd want to see that. I love the Great Saiyaman outfit because, even if it's dorky, it's the only fighting outfit Gohan ever wore that wasn't based off someone else's clothes. It'd be him fighting as himself, not as the disciple of someone else.

There's also the fact that they gave him his BoG/Buu hairstyle again. Hinting that maybe he could use Ultimate again? I don't even think Toei knows HOW to draw Ultimate with his RoF haircut.
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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by PsionicWarrior » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:54 pm

It still wouldn't satisfy me but light-hearted moments with Great Saiyaman would certainly feel better than those with Pilaf. :shifty:

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by precita » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:38 pm

Gohan just needs to do something.

He's not a character easily pushed to the side like Tenshinhan, Yamcha, or even 18 and Videl. He was a main character, one of the most important characters of DBZ.

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by Kagari » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:30 pm

precita wrote:Gohan just needs to do something.

He's not a character easily pushed to the side like Tenshinhan, Yamcha, or even 18 and Videl. He was a main character, one of the most important characters of DBZ.
That's just it... I feel like he wasn't really pushed to the side for the first 30 episodes of Super or so. It was only until the tournament arc he was and been since with the exception of episode 43. As you said, he was a main character so this sort of treatment has been really unfortunate and odd for a character still so popular today. Hopefully things will change starting with episode 52. We know that episode is specifically dedicated to Gohan and Future Trunks so if he's coming back into a sizeable role this arc, that seems to be the time. Considering not much has actually happened in the grand scheme of things so far, there's plenty of time for new developments.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by The Monkey King » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:36 am

Does anyone remember the 1st few months that DBS was airing and fans started to point out how Gohan was getting shafted while other fans were saying that they were exaggerating?

Well can anyone deny what's happening to Gohan now? He was removed entirely from the universe 6 arc and has yet to make an appearance in the current FT arc. His status as an important main character is finished, it looks as though he'll never be relevant again.

Hopefully episode 52 can give Gohan some hope because this is just sad.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Bullza » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:53 am

I keep forgetting he's even in it. How many episodes has he even been in since the start if the Universe 6 arc? Two? Three?

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:54 am

The Monkey King wrote:Does anyone remember the 1st few months that DBS was airing and fans started to point out how Gohan was getting shafted while other fans were saying that they were exaggerating?

Well can anyone deny what's happening to Gohan now? He was removed entirely from the universe 6 arc and has yet to make an appearance in the current FT arc. His status as an important main character is finished, it looks as though he'll never be relevant again.

Hopefully episode 52 can give Gohan some hope because this is just sad.
Gohans's general character is shit and there are many other interesting characters. He will make a cameo appearence in episode 52 and don't be surprised if that is it for this arc and in episode 52 it could even be future Gohan.
Bullza wrote:I keep forgetting he's even in it. How many episodes has he even been in since the start if the Universe 6 arc? Two? Three?
I think episode 30 and 43.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:12 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
The Monkey King wrote:Does anyone remember the 1st few months that DBS was airing and fans started to point out how Gohan was getting shafted while other fans were saying that they were exaggerating?

Well can anyone deny what's happening to Gohan now? He was removed entirely from the universe 6 arc and has yet to make an appearance in the current FT arc. His status as an important main character is finished, it looks as though he'll never be relevant again.

Hopefully episode 52 can give Gohan some hope because this is just sad.
Gohans's general character is shit and there are many other interesting characters. He will make a cameo appearence in episode 52 and don't be surprised if that is it for this arc and in episode 52 it could even be future Gohan.
Bullza wrote:I keep forgetting he's even in it. How many episodes has he even been in since the start if the Universe 6 arc? Two? Three?
I think episode 30 and 43.

I wouldn't say his character is shit but I've never been a fan of Gohan personally. I was actually infuriated he beat Cell :lol: however I actually like him as an adult much more and I wouldn't be against him finding something to fight for.
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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:51 pm

Place your bets for Episode 52. Let's see who get's the closest.

My bet is, it's an enjoyable little down time episode with Gohan and Trunks that will have some interesting interactions, but Gohan will still remain inconsequential and useless. Oh and alongside that his development from the end of the F arc that was put off after EP30 will be dropped. That's my bet of what we're getting.
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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by precita » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:00 pm

We need to get away from Goku and Vegeta and their tropes once in a while.

I don't know how anyone could not want more Gohan. He along with Trunks make a great contrast to the battle hungry Saiyans like Goku/Vegeta.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Beyond » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:29 pm

Gohan needs to come back he was my all time favorite saiyan. I don't want him to be an edge lord though like initial ss2 rage Gohan, or cocky like ultimate Gohan. I wouldn't mind if he wore his saiyaman suit without the helmet. It was a good look. Gohan could easily be a fighter without breaking character. He would just get less training than everyone else. The dream team always had gohan in it. https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphot ... 2967_n.jpg (obviously grown up Gohan replace not-teen Gohan)

An alternative route for Gohan could be a series of in between filler arcs where Gohan and co defend earth while the Goku and Vegeta are away(It would stare Gohan, Krillin, Kid trunks, Goten, piccolo, and 18? )

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:46 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Place your bets for Episode 52. Let's see who get's the closest.

My bet is, it's an enjoyable little down time episode with Gohan and Trunks that will have some interesting interactions, but Gohan will still remain inconsequential and useless. Oh and alongside that his development from the end of the F arc that was put off after EP30 will be dropped. That's my bet of what we're getting.
He will appear for about 1 minute just before the rest go to the future to fight Black.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Kagari » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:34 pm

precita wrote:We need to get away from Goku and Vegeta and their tropes once in a while.

I don't know how anyone could not want more Gohan. He along with Trunks make a great contrast to the battle hungry Saiyans like Goku/Vegeta.
Agreed. You know it's sad when Pilaf gang of all characters is getting more screen time than everyone not Goku/Vegeta/Beerus/Whis. Characters like Gohan and Piccolo would really benefit from teaming up with Future Trunks.

As for episode 52, Trunks and Gohan have a lot to catch up on and there will probably be some nice moments out of this. My biggest hope is, after learning of Black's threat, Trunks and Gohan end up teaming up to further draw parallels to the history of the future timeline. They're closer in age now and would be a perfect opposite to the tired Goku/Vegeta shtick.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:03 pm

Kagari wrote:
precita wrote:We need to get away from Goku and Vegeta and their tropes once in a while.

I don't know how anyone could not want more Gohan. He along with Trunks make a great contrast to the battle hungry Saiyans like Goku/Vegeta.
Agreed. You know it's sad when Pilaf gang of all characters is getting more screen time than everyone not Goku/Vegeta/Beerus/Whis. Characters like Gohan and Piccolo would really benefit from teaming up with Future Trunks.

As for episode 52, Trunks and Gohan have a lot to catch up on and there will probably be some nice moments out of this. My biggest hope is, after learning of Black's threat, Trunks and Gohan end up teaming up to further draw parallels to the history of the future timeline. They're closer in age now and would be a perfect opposite to the tired Goku/Vegeta shtick.
To be fair, the Pilaf Gang did kick start the entire plot of Dragon Ball with their antics and they were completely forgotten about after the King Piccolo arc. I think they were due some screetime. But I do agree that would certainly like to see more of Gohan... if he has a proper role in the plot and doesn't feel shoehorned in for fanservice.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by shwin » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:08 pm

Gohan should be relevant but he should not be the strongest IMO.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:19 pm

Beyond wrote:Gohan needs to come back he was my all time favorite saiyan. I don't want him to be an edge lord though like initial ss2 rage Gohan, or cocky like ultimate Gohan. I wouldn't mind if he wore his saiyaman suit without the helmet. It was a good look. Gohan could easily be a fighter without breaking character. He would just get less training than everyone else.
I don't see a plausible way for him to meet the new tiers without extensive training, and the fact that he won't focus solely on that would contradict that. Unless we expect Gohan to just pop in out of no where at Goku's level from just a hand-wave power up, there wouldn't be any way for him to be equally relevant.
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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Avok » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:24 pm

shwin wrote:Gohan should be relevant but he should not be the strongest IMO.
Why not?

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:25 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
Beyond wrote:Gohan needs to come back he was my all time favorite saiyan. I don't want him to be an edge lord though like initial ss2 rage Gohan, or cocky like ultimate Gohan. I wouldn't mind if he wore his saiyaman suit without the helmet. It was a good look. Gohan could easily be a fighter without breaking character. He would just get less training than everyone else.
I don't see a plausible way for him to meet the new tiers without extensive training, and the fact that he won't focus solely on that would contradict that. Unless we expect Gohan to just pop in out of no where at Goku's level from just a hand-wave power up, there wouldn't be any way for him to be equally relevant.
Most he can do is hand hold like Goku did to get closer to their level. He still wouldn't be enough to be on Goku and Vegeta's level, but it's a pretty big start to being in a more useful tier. The rest would have to come from training, which he may or may not have the time for. If he follows what he set out to do after F, it shouldn't take him long since he always catches up in a short amount of time. From training, zenkai's, or power ups. Though outside of hand holding, it depends if he even still wants to be more capable to protect his loved ones or if that idea was dropped.
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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:31 pm

It's really hard to get five people together and hold hands for a 10 minute long power up sequence you guys. Give poor Gohan some slack FFS.
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