Who should beat Black?

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by JimmyRustam » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:26 pm

It would be extremly awesome if Mirai Trunks and Kid Trunks would defeat him together. Like with a powerful ki-blast and a badass line !

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:30 pm

Fwiw I think Goku should just beat everyone :lol: to me Dragon Ball Universe is just the story of Goku and his life. No reason for anyone else to really do anything major except the occasional twist like Gohan beating Cell.

I wouldnt consider this a twist...it's the first new villain of a new series (in the sense everything before Champa was just movie retelling basically)

Let Goku get the kill.
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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:51 pm

Future Trunks. But in doing so he sacrafices his life and dies :( Kid Trunks vouches from this day to never give up and attempt to be just like his Future counterpart.

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:29 pm

Trunks and Mai's son from the future will surprisingly save the day.
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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by kinisking » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:26 pm

Vegeta!! Or future trunks. Although I want Goku and Gohan to help
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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Kanassa » Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:51 am

JimmyRustam wrote:It would be extremly awesome if Mirai Trunks and Kid Trunks would defeat him together. Like with a powerful ki-blast and a badass line !
I think F!Trunks would yell somthing along the lines of "It was supposed to end with Cell.. It was supposed to end with Bobbidy... And now you come to destroy my future again. Gohan, Mai... Mother.... NOW YOUR TURN TO DIE, BLACK!"...

And then Black easily shrugs off his attack and kicks his ass. "Father... Just get Goku..."
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Black Tegs » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:12 pm

I think it would be cool for Gohan or Future Trunks to defeat black.

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by ClinicalBM » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:14 pm

I hope both Goku and Vegeta get wrecked by Black on the blink of death, black will go God mode SS, something different from SSBlue – I hope with white/gray hair.

Then Gohan comes back from training with Piccolo.
The supreme Kai intervenes seeing the terrible status of the situation.
Gives him the fusion earrings.
Then a Fused Gohan and Trunks create the perfect Saiyan warrior, eventually they go SSJB in battle and defeat Black Goku who lost quite a bit of power fighting Goku and Vegeta already, separately.

They will later defuse using fat Buu or the Dragon balls.

Or more realistically Goku.

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:28 am

What if they end up using the Ma Fu Ba again to defeat Black?
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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Mazingerdestro » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:44 am

I have many theories about black and everything ends with Goku beating him. However, I think the others should have a shot two.

1) Have Gohan and Trunks fusing and fighting him.
2) Have Vegeta beating him.

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Kanassa » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:09 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:What if they end up using the Ma Fu Ba again to defeat Black?
That would be hillarious!
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Shinomori » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:31 am

I believe it is extremely likely that Vegeta will be the one to finish off Black, especially if they were to separate him from the likeness of Goku. (Say Black is a fusion of Future Goku and himself, or if Black is controlling Future Goku's body) It is very clear that Vegeta is enraged Goku Black killed Future Bulma. So in this arc, we may finally see Vegeta get the spotlight. Not that I'm a Vegeta fan or anything.

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Lujin_16 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:40 am

There were moments before the trunks arc who indicates that Vegeta will have a bigger role than Goku in the next arc

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:20 am

As I mentioned in the official Super thread, there was nothing more satisfying than watching the androids being destroyed by Trunks. Ideally, he should be the one to beat Black.

In my nerdgasm fantasy, it would go something like this:
> Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks should head to the future on their own. NO Jaco, Pilaf, Beerus, Whis, and so on. Please, please, PLEASE keep them away. It should just be those three.
> Vegeta steps up first and beats the piss out of Black as a SSJB. However, Black shows nothing but glee as each blow makes him stronger.
> Black transforms into that SSJW form fans have been spreading (it looks so cool!!). In this form, the stamina drainage offsets his perpetual power boosts. He's now capable of beating Vegeta. This prompts everyone to attack him at once. He swats Trunks away like a fly. Goku and Vegeta put up a good effort.
> Time begins to distort and open a portal that slowly sucks Goku and Vegeta back to their world: it seems people can use time machines to travel to the past, but not the future!
> Before Vegeta is sucked back to the present, he yells at an unconscious Trunks to get his ass up. Vegeta transfers his energy to him. Goku notices, smiles, and the does the same.
> Black maniacally laughs as he thinks he's won. Trunks gets up. Black proceeds to whup him silly. However, the energy emanating inside Trunks' bodies keeps him from falling. Eventually, a dramatic transformation into a SSJB occurs.
> Black and Trunks fight evenly for a while.
> Cue beam struggle. Goku Black uses his black Kamehameha while Trunks counters with a Masenko (orb) beam.
> Trunks puts his hands down, leading Black to believe he's given up. Trunks tells him to go to hell before yelling "Final Flash" and vaporizing that muddafuka.
> Trunks is in disbelief as he's won. Some time later, he sees his planet slowly rejuvenate and restore itself--back in the present, the gang, with the help of Whis and Beerus, managed to use the Super Dragon Balls to fix his timeline and restore the people killed by Black.
> Mai calls out to Trunks. Future Bulma is standing next to her. Trunks cries and they live happily ever after. :')
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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:36 am

The combined efforts of Kid Trunks, Future Trunks and Vegeta will defeat Black. Even though only Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks are travelling to the future to defeat him, I'm calling it that Kid Trunks will sneak into the time machine to see what exciting things will happen. It's definitely something he would do.

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by BeholdeR » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:40 am

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Goku should have already beaten him ^^ He didn't learn a thing from the frieza fight, but I guess he can't help himself.

I want it to escalate so bad that they have to beg Whis to step in.

And whis deals with him, either one shots or has a glorious battle, but most likely one shots, I like the mistery of Whis being so strong.
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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by ryou766 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:12 pm

Trunks making his subconscious promise to Gohan that he'll defeat Black, and because Trunks will receive training from Vegeta, makes me believe that Trunks WILL be defeated by Black. If not Trunks by himself, then alongside Vegeta: father and son avenging their wife and mother.

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:40 pm

ryou766 wrote:Trunks making his subconscious promise to Gohan that he'll defeat Black, and because Trunks will receive training from Vegeta, makes me believe that Trunks WILL be defeated by Black. If not Trunks by himself, then alongside Vegeta: father and son avenging their wife and mother.
You know, until they slip on a banana peel and Goku has to jump in to kamehameha Black in the face.
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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by ryou766 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:45 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
ryou766 wrote:Trunks making his subconscious promise to Gohan that he'll defeat Black, and because Trunks will receive training from Vegeta, makes me believe that Trunks WILL be defeated by Black. If not Trunks by himself, then alongside Vegeta: father and son avenging their wife and mother.
You know, until they slip on a banana peel and Goku has to jump in to kamehameha Black in the face.
Brace yourselves.

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Re: Who should beat Black?

Post by jplaya2023 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:44 am

should be vegeta, but it will be goku

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