(NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by HeroR » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:11 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: So? That doesn't mean they can't. We never saw a female Saiyan turn Super Saiyan and that's happened. Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't. There was no hint prior to BoG that Saiyans can get God Ki or a power close to rivaling gods. Yet it happened sure enough in BoG.
Why wouldn't a female Saiyan be able to go Super Saiyan. It isn't like she's a different species from a male. Come on now.
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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:05 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
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Ki Breaker wrote: Theres nothing stopping them from writing Namekians to have a transformation..
It's not like there is a set of rules saying they can't have one..
You mean other than we never saw a Namekian transform or even hint they have a transformation outside of stuff like Heroes and Online?
So? That doesn't mean they can't. We never saw a female Saiyan turn Super Saiyan and that's happened. Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't. There was no hint prior to BoG that Saiyans can get God Ki or a power close to rivaling gods. Yet it happened sure enough in BoG.
Youre right and I agree but female super saiyan is a terrible comparison since we have seen their species do it and we knew 100% it was possible.
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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by precita » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:01 am

LOL @ all this speculation of Goku having a new form that went on for months when all it was, was just a shield barrier to protect from poison. :lol:

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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by dbgtFO » Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:25 am

precita wrote:LOL @ all this speculation of Goku having a new form that went on for months when all it was, was just a shield barrier to protect from poison. :lol:
Perhaps you should take a step back and think things through.
This barrier thing was only just hinted at in last week's preview and is obviously not what has been teased since the start of the arc months back and recently in the new poster.

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Post by superfan2024 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:32 pm

Even though i'm not 100% on board with the new form being what we have seen today, I think that people are still forgetting that steamy aura around Goku. Just what is it?

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And this picture revealed earlier today:

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I think we should compare and contrast these images to see how/what this form really is. What do you all think?

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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by GigaDrill » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:44 pm

precita wrote:LOL @ all this speculation of Goku having a new form that went on for months when all it was, was just a shield barrier to protect from poison. :lol:
Is that why the opening shows him transforming from Blue to some new form to fight Jiren?

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Post by Sonicjamareiz » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:57 pm

superfan2024 wrote: And this picture revealed earlier today:

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I think we should compare and contrast these images to see how/what this form really is. What do you all think?
It's already been confirmed it is just ssjb can we stop blasting this pic everywhere. :x
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Post by mfwlegend3 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:58 pm

At this point I think it's SSB Goku with red filter, his entire body is red.

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Post by Chuquita » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:09 pm

I like the blue black hair one in the poster so much I don't want the red one to be it, or if it is it I want that to be with aura on.
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Post by Username2016 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:30 pm

Chuquita wrote:I like the blue black hair one in the poster so much I don't want the red one to be it, or if it is it I want that to be with aura on.
Me too, I don't really like the thought of having a new red hair transformation when Super Saiyan God already had that.

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Post by GodVegetto91 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:17 am

It's interesting and odd how no one noticed it before or even commented on it, but Toshio basically teased us with Goku's new potential form more than a week back in image form! As you can see, it clearly showcases a red super saiyan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/toshio916/st ... 3628225536

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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by Sonicjamareiz » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:59 am

GodVegetto91 wrote:It's interesting and odd how no one noticed it before or even commented on it, but Toshio basically teased us with Goku's new potential form more than a week back in image form! As you can see, it clearly showcases a red super saiyan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/toshio916/st ... 3628225536
Okay now that is a much better "leak" than a unrelated piece of chocolate... but I think thats just ssjg Goku with his hair spiked up I mean why would he randomly show a spoiler for no reason. :|
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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:00 am

GodVegetto91 wrote:It's interesting and odd how no one noticed it before or even commented on it, but Toshio basically teased us with Goku's new potential form more than a week back in image form! As you can see, it clearly showcases a red super saiyan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/toshio916/st ... 3628225536
It was noticed, was brought up when image behind the chocolate was being discussed..
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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by Sonicjamareiz » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:28 am

The more I look at it the more I'm getting convinced this might be the new form. I think Goku might master ssjg so why the lesser form? I mean the shirt says super saiya god... is blue going to be regarded as the ssj3 of the god forms? I have so many questions... :crazy:
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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:41 am

Sonicjamareiz wrote:The more I look at it the more I'm getting convinced this might be the new form. I think Goku might master ssjg so why the lesser form? I mean the shirt says super saiya god... is blue going to be regarded as the ssj3 of the god forms? I have so many questions... :crazy:
The thing is SSG has godly ki as well as godly body..
His body changed with him feeling pain, he became thinner and gained healing..
Blue however, was just them tapping into god ki with SS..
If I had to guess, blue would be regarded as an incomplete god transformation..
And this new form is what SSG was meant to be, Super Saiyan God, what goku attained back then, was simply a saiyan god..

This new form if is stronger than berrus, will also make Berrus's dream of a SSG becoming a worthy opponent of his true, because what goku transformed into in bog wasn't even close
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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by GodVegetto91 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:12 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
Sonicjamareiz wrote:The more I look at it the more I'm getting convinced this might be the new form. I think Goku might master ssjg so why the lesser form? I mean the shirt says super saiya god... is blue going to be regarded as the ssj3 of the god forms? I have so many questions... :crazy:
The thing is SSG has godly ki as well as godly body..
His body changed with him feeling pain, he became thinner and gained healing..
Blue however, was just them tapping into god ki with SS..
If I had to guess, blue would be regarded as an incomplete god transformation..
And this new form is what SSG was meant to be, Super Saiyan God, what goku attained back then, was simply a saiyan god..

This new form if is stronger than berrus, will also make Berrus's dream of a SSG becoming a worthy opponent of his true, because what goku transformed into in bog wasn't even close
Wow. Interesting theory about Goku's actual "body" and good points! Yeah i guess when it comes to becoming a fully fledged deity, "godly ki" alone isn't enough, you need something more, like your actual body perse. It's true that Goku had several exclusive features, such as a slimmer body, a more tan skin, the ability to heal himself, and how he felt pain during the transformation, not only that but (even though this was only an english dub term? Or was it in the original japanese version too?) Goku stated right after he charged Beerus and missed him for the first time: "Wow! It's like i'm in a completely different body now! It feels so alien to me." (Or something along those lines, not the exact quote ofcourse).

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Post by MrBlackFox » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:17 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
GodVegetto91 wrote:It's interesting and odd how no one noticed it before or even commented on it, but Toshio basically teased us with Goku's new potential form more than a week back in image form! As you can see, it clearly showcases a red super saiyan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/toshio916/st ... 3628225536
It was noticed, was brought up when image behind the chocolate was being discussed..
Here's for quick access
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Imo, this is the most logical choice they could do in the series
God is powerful and less taxing on power and body, makes sense to try to control it perfectly

I like this a lot, god deserves more love and screen time

Also, I predicted the Beerus thing ( that another ultimate Goku's form at the end of the series could have been the one Beerus dreamed) so this makes even more sense

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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by GodVegetto91 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:23 am

Sonicjamareiz wrote:
GodVegetto91 wrote:It's interesting and odd how no one noticed it before or even commented on it, but Toshio basically teased us with Goku's new potential form more than a week back in image form! As you can see, it clearly showcases a red super saiyan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/toshio916/st ... 3628225536
Okay now that is a much better "leak" than a unrelated piece of chocolate... but I think thats just ssjg Goku with his hair spiked up I mean why would he randomly show a spoiler for no reason. :|
No my assumption is that he's basically showing us an easter egg with this one, by giving us a clue that this could be Goku's new form.

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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by emperior » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:59 am

If the new form gets called Super Saiyan God and retcons the old Super Saiyan God to just be Saiyan God then I would be fine with it. Though I don't think it will happen because it would create so much confusion and it would cause some merchandise problem.
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Re: (NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:29 am

emperior wrote:If the new form gets called Super Saiyan God and retcons the old Super Saiyan God to just be Saiyan God then I would be fine with it. Though I don't think it will happen because it would create so much confusion and it would cause some merchandise problem.
Super Saiyan Super Saiyan God then?

Too much of a mouthful..
The theory I posted above seems like the best option to me..
There will be merchandise problem yeah, but they can rectify it with naming the new form True Super Saiyan God..
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