I think feminism is the reason for the overpowered female characters

[TheOne]

There's absolutely no personal agenda. None. Super IS trying to catch up with other shonen anime, it's long overdue. Kale and Caulifla are here for fanservice. Japan loves fanservice and ecchi anime. They're obsessed with moe and tsundere characters. You want to think of possible agenda? If you have watched Naruto and haven't finished it yet, [spoiler]Kaguya replacing Madara as the final villain of Naruto, and being by far the strongest character in the series[/spoiler] could be an agenda. Even then that's not agenda, just very poor writing and execution. Not this. I too hate how Kale and Caulifla got asspull powerup like Trunks. But this is just bad writing which has plagued Super since U6 arc.

For example, in One Piece (the most popular manga of all time) Luffy will soon be fighting Big Mom, the primary antagonist who's a female and one of the top 10 strongest characters in the entire series. Unlike Kale and Caulfia, Big Mom isn't a fanservice character, she's ugly and fat. Nobody has called out Big Mom for feminism, even though she's fat. Given how Dragon Ball has yet to create a primary female antagonist (18 barely even qualifies as an antagonist), it has a lot of catch up to do. I also feel sorry for the fanbase for being so ignorant on anime in general.

You’re accusing the fan base of being ignorant yet you assumed that I potentially haven’t watched naruto or one piece?

I watch boruto every week and get more excited about watching/reading one piece than I do dragon ball. I'm very much aware of every anime you’ve mentioned, including fairy tale.

Kaguya wasn’t a bad addition. All they did was play on the “mother of all” perspective and it worked fine. I had absolutely no problem with Kaguya, Big Mom or Erza playing such powerful rolls. I explained this to you already. I also never had a problem with 18 kicking the crap out Vegeta and Trunks. All these females you mentioned had been foreshadowed as being exceptional with the exception of Erza. Hers was different if I remember correctly.

Do you know why I (and many others) stopped watching fairy tale? All this ridiculous fan service and power of friendship crap. Too much fan service makes a show suck. There were better ways to introduce Kale and Caulifla than the way they did. All the shows mentioned thus far had much better introductions than these two. Caulifla and kale were fan service characters who got bogus power ups.

How exactly was Erza not"foreshadowed" as being exceptional when she was hyped up to be a beast in battle by Natsu and Grey before she even made an official appearance? A large portain of her character is based on the idea that she is a mighty knight. Also it's apparent you're ignorant to a large portion of Fairy Tail, or just not good at paying attention, considering you continue to misspell the title of the series. That's the equivalent of calling Dragon Ball Super "Dragon Ball Z Super".

Out of all the things spoken, you want to talk about spelling of the series “fairy tail”?

First I invite you to look up the definitions of “tail” and “tale”. Maybe you’ll understand why I choose to say that instead. I don’t care if that’s not the way you spell it because I don’t care much for the show anymore. So your comparison is just wrong.

I watched the beginning of fairy tail so long ago I don’t even remember how she was introduced. You could even see in my statement that I kinda unsure. I’m not ignorant to fairy tail. I watched the series weekly all the way through the magic games or whatever it was called. After I caught up through the anime I went to the manga. I even glanced at it from time to time in hopes of catching some Acnologia after years of being in suspense. I remember why I stopped watching but I’m not about to go into it anymore.

[Tian]

What i think toei is doing with kale and cauliflia and also with ribrianne is to gain the female audience. Dragon ball was allwayes a male dominent franchise. I think toei wants the dragonball fandom go expend into the female territory for servel reasons

1. Is to sell more merchendise

. 2 to intreduce the politicly correct sjw/diversety agenda into dragonball. Just like marvel and star wars did

I think the later is more dominent. Thats why kefla is so OP. They dont care about how it looks. They want a marry sue and they want it badly.

This isnt just about the Saiyan girls but about ribrianne as well. Look at the design of ribrianne. Transformation from a skinny model looking into an overwhight middle aged looking woman. The sjw agenda is clear here. Sjw's and feminist despise good looking woman and promote obesity non stop. In the name of "diversety".

Thats why ribrianne is being shoved in out throats over and over. I believe its in the name of feminism.

1) Do I have to remind you 18 kicked Vegeta's Super Saiyan ass in the android saga?

2) Most likely done for comic purposes.

[buutenks]

IRL, women are physically weaker than men because they have smaller bodies and men have testosterone, which amps them more. In fiction this is not the case. So stop complaining if a female happens to be very strong.

[TBMx]

This all seems funny, but my brother actually believes all media that has females in the hero role is part of a marxist globalist conspiracy designed to undermine traditional values. He's been sent to a mental hospital two times. So these people need serious help.

[AloversGaming]

The only issue with the women is the power scaling, which has been a problem of Super since the start. But how are you going to write an interesting tournament where two of the characters on one team are able to go toe to toe with GoD's?

The girls have been a very welcome edition to a series where all the fights have been dude on dude. #18; one of the most powerful characters was left to babysit while Freeza was returning to Earth. Vidal? Also downgraded to stay at home mom. That was terrible writing and going by your logic in the OP it would mean the writers are women hating sexists, no? I'd like you explain why only Bulma not being done away with is not an issue.

If you want to talk about actual facts on characters created to impress the female viewer and get them to watch, it's Trunks. He was created for that purpose. As was his nonsense sword. It worked, too. Girls loved him and he became a fan favourite.

Caulifla & Kale are also gaining an increasingly large fanbase. And if they were gay, why is that an agenda? Is having gay characters is a bad thing?

Watching their relationship develop on the battlefield will always be more interesting and better written than Toriyama's endless timeskips. Or is it happening during the tournament the issue; would it be fine if they were more professional during ToP, then in the next arc when they return they've started a very open and very gay relationship?

[Saturnine]

This all seems funny, but my brother actually believes all media that has females in the hero role is part of a marxist globalist conspiracy designed to undermine traditional values. He's been sent to a mental hospital two times. So these people need serious help.

Anyone that even uses the term "traditional values" is guaranteed to think a woman's place is in the kitchen and should be obedient and subservient to her husband, they're probably also abusers. Too bad that these so-called "traditional values" are getting moralized in some places, like say, Russia. Third wave feminist is cancer too of course, but that's extremes for ya.

[Faisal Shourov]

Anyone that even uses the term "traditional values" is guaranteed to think a woman's place is in the kitchen and should be obedient and subservient to her husband, they're probably also abusers. Too bad that these so-called "traditional values" are getting moralized in some places, like say, Russia. Third wave feminist is cancer too of course, but that's extremes for ya.

As a politically centrist person, I hate both ends of the spectrum. This thread is a joke in itself that OP is trying to correlate western feminism to Japanese culture where it wouldn't make sense several contexts wise