Hm. Okay. I still don't feel like pulling my hair out upon hearing it. So, whatever. I am far more lenient, it seems. If it doesn't bug me, I'll accept it, and I am bugged by less than you are. In some respects. I can be a very...well, like you about some things.Kunzait_83 wrote: The Faulconer intro may be lyric-free (mercifully), but it’s inherent terribleness as music more than picks up the slack. Rock the Dragon may have had braindead retarded lyrics that were shouted over and over again mind numbingly… but the guitar work in it, while by no means all that particularly spectacular in and of itself, is lightyears ahead of anything that Faulconer seems capable of producing.
The guitar riffs in Rock the Dragon may be bad or mediocre music, but at least it’s still vaguely recognizable as music, to the point where I can remember the tune and hum it (not that I’d want to). Faulconer’s work is, as I said before, not so much music as it is just completely random sounds strung together with absolutely zero audible regard for even basic elementary school level music class composition.
How many odd analogies do you HAVE for the composition of this music, anyway?Kunzait_83 wrote:With this “style” of music you can literally achieve the same damn effect by having a morbidly obese guy park his ass onto a bunch of synthesizer keys, and the results would be nearly indistinguishable. Faulconer literally sounds to my ears (without exaggeration) like a mentally slow 3 year old happily going to town on his “My First Electronic Music Set” that he got for his birthday.
Oh god, please keep them out of my mind. I'm already trying to get Miley Cyrus out of my brain. Pop music is a corrosive material, my friend, and it likes to settle on the brain.Kunzait_83 wrote: And that right there is probably where my biggest point of disagreement with the vast majority of the present-day U.S. fanbase on the Faulconer score comes in. I’m the complete opposite. I cannot listen to or even tolerate Faulconer anymore than I could Brittany Spears, Ashley Simpson, Justin Timberlake, or the Jonas Brothers.
I'd have to say, I am in love with all of the cartoons on your good cartoon lists except Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead. I think we're more or less in agreement, and the Batman animated series does not have a better description than modern classic. My personal list would have Gargoyles fairly high on that list too, actually....Kunzait_83 wrote:Okay, clarification time kids; I did NOT in any way mean that I hated ALL American made cartoons universally, either as a kid or today. Just a specific TYPE of American made cartoon that I firmly maintain FUNimation dubbed DBZ belongs stylistically in; the toy selling “action” cartoon. The “this stuff is HARDCORE!!!!... for three year olds…” school of shitty action figure selling cartoons.
To illustrate my point, here’s a quick list bla bla bla AWESOME CARTOONS.
Ah. If I may, I would like to offer my perspective. And since this is a forum, where you can't stop me mid-sentence, I suppose means that I may and you have no say.Kunzait_83 wrote:Stuff about the dub that I can't possibly condense.
I discovered Dragonball as a cheap action cartoon as a kid, I saw it on its first US run on like...WB or something of that sort. I lost it for a long time, but I remembered it when I saw it had gained huge popularity. I didn't realize until later, through DBZ Uncensored, that I'd been pandered to and treated like an idiot, but by then I'd spent some time really liking the dub. I came to the point that I would watch only the original Japanese track, but I suppose I got used to and acclimated to the dub first, so I'm somewhat less likely to be venting angrily at it. Just slightly, though.
Isn't that where all the fun is?Kunzait_83 wrote:I think we’re more in agreement in most of our points/views than this discussion outwardly lets on, and that we’ve basically just been splitting hairs over semantics for the most part.
It's not hard to crack a top ten list with as many themes as there are. I mean, there aren't THAT many, are there? How many intro themes do we have?Kunzait No There Are No More Nicknames_83 wrote:Just because the Faulconer intro might be comparatively LESS crappy than something as flagrantly inept as the Portuguese intro, doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s all that far behind it, or not in the same basic ballpark. The Faulconer intro may not be the single worst DBZ replacement intro of all time (not even in terms of the U.S. version what with the GT rap and all) but it still would easily crack a top five or ten list.
But again, splitting hairs, and your point itself is solid.
...Heehee. Boo York. That's CLASSIC.
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What? How are Saiyaman, Ginyu's poses, or HALF THE NAMES IN DRAGONBALL any better?! >_>
No! I'm sorry I couldn't resist!