Dragon Ball Z Hater Websites

hotrod28 · Post by **hotrod28** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:05 am

Yeah, dragonball is a kids show. That's why they had to heavily edit and even completely cut episodes to MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

Bura · Post by **Bura** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:09 am

hotrod28 wrote:Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

In Japan it is.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:11 am

hotrod28 wrote:Yeah, dragonball is a kids show. That's why they had to heavily edit and even completely cut episodes to MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

There are so many things wrong with this post I don't even know where to start, so I'm just going to link to a Japanese commercial for Dragon Ball eye drops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOfFlEZa2uk

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:12 am

hotrod28 wrote:I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

DragonBall was published in Weekly Shōnen Jump. Shōnen refers to boys age 10-18. So...yes. DragonBall is for kids. It's just, standards are much more different in Japan than in North America.

-Corey

hotrod28 · Post by **hotrod28** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:14 am

Bura wrote:
hotrod28 wrote:Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"
In Japan it is.

Is it really? Because if so, then this children's show thing needs to be culturally defined. That sure isn't acceptable here.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:19 am

hotrod28 wrote:Yeah, dragonball is a kids show. That's why they had to heavily edit and even completely cut episodes to MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

Oh my god, I thought we had none on this forum....

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:21 am

hotrod28 wrote:
Bura wrote:
hotrod28 wrote:Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"
In Japan it is.
Is it really? Because if so, then this children's show thing needs to be culturally defined. That sure isn't acceptable here.

The show wasn't made here.

hotrod28 · Post by **hotrod28** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:29 am

SSJ2bardock wrote:
hotrod28 wrote:
Bura wrote: In Japan it is.
Is it really? Because if so, then this children's show thing needs to be culturally defined. That sure isn't acceptable here.
The show wasn't made here.

I'm well aware of that. And when the dubbers got a hold of dragonball, they said "holy crap this show has material in it that is not appropriate for children. Let's edit it to make it a children's show." Dragonball in the states was made into a children's show, but it didn't start out entirely as one.

Look at this way; if dragonball was made here in the states, and all of bulma's nudity remained intact, all blood uncensored, etc. What rating would it be given?

Get out of here with this children non-sense. I guess we're all five years old now.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:36 am

The rating system in Japan is way more lenient than it is here, not knowing this you would assume it wasn't a children's show. Now you know, so this whole situation can be cleared up.

Yi Xing Long · Post by **Yi Xing Long** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:42 am

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
hotrod28 wrote:I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

DragonBall was published in Weekly Shōnen Jump. Shōnen refers to boys age 10-18. So...yes. DragonBall is for kids. It's just, standards are much more different in Japan than in North America.

-Corey

There is also the fact that even though certain words in Japanese can be translated as "bastard" or "damn" they literally just mean "that guy" and "excrement." They are not curse words like you would think of curses in English.

hotrod28 wrote:I'm well aware of that. And when the dubbers got a hold of dragonball, they said "holy crap this show has material in it that is not appropriate for children. Let's edit it to make it a children's show." Dragonball in the states was made into a children's show, but it didn't start out entirely as one.

Look at this way; if dragonball was made here in the states, and all of bulma's nudity remained intact, all blood uncensored, etc. What rating would it be given?

Get out of here with this children non-sense. I guess we're all five years now. Rolling Eyes

Dragon Ball is a Shounen series (main target audience: males age 10-17). Also, for your information, Dragon Ball Z did air completely uncut on Saturday nights during prime time (8 or 9 pm I believe) a la Ultimate Uncut Edition. All blood, middle fingers, nudity, and even curses were kept intact. It had a rating of PG.

SSJ2bardock wrote:The rating system in Japan is way more lenient than it is here, not knowing this you would assume it wasn't a children's show. Now you know, so this whole situation can be cleared up.

Actually, it is not. Contrary to what you may believe, some anime have to be censored for them to be shown on TV (strike witches most notably). Others are moved to later time slots because they are too violent (Bleach). Like I said before, Dragon Ball Z aired completely uncensored in every way with a rating of PG in the US.

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:51 am

Yi Xing Long wrote:
MajinVejitaXV wrote:Dragon Ball is a Shounen series (main target audience: males age 10-17). Also, for your information, Dragon Ball Z did air completely uncut on Saturday nights during prime time (8 or 9 pm I believe) a la Ultimate Uncut Edition. All blood, middle fingers, nudity, and even curses were kept intact. It had a rating of PG.

Um, in Japan?

Yi Xing Long · Post by **Yi Xing Long** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:54 am

jda95 wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote:Dragon Ball is a Shounen series (main target audience: males age 10-17). Also, for your information, Dragon Ball Z did air completely uncut on Saturday nights during prime time (8 or 9 pm I believe) a la Ultimate Uncut Edition. All blood, middle fingers, nudity, and even curses were kept intact. It had a rating of PG.
Um, in Japan?

Japan doesn't have a rating system that includes "PG." I am talking about Cartoon Network in the US. It aired in 2005/2006 with a rating of PG fully uncensored.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:56 am

My mistake then, I guess it's just their standards that are a lot more lenient and nothing technical like a ratings system.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:57 am

hotrod28 wrote:Yeah, dragonball is a kids show. That's why they had to heavily edit and even completely cut episodes to MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

Considering all the children's products that came out in Japan for Dragonball that rivals that of all the children's products produced around the Ninja Turtles in the late 80s and early 90s, I'd say that (in Japan) Dragonball, as-is, is considered a kids show.

If it weren't, then it would be about as effective as making children's products for something like CSI or House.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:20 am

hotrod28 wrote:
Bura wrote:
hotrod28 wrote:Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"
In Japan it is.
Is it really? Because if so, then this children's show thing needs to be culturally defined. That sure isn't acceptable here.

Just because the Japanese aren't pussies when it comes to their children's entertainment.

Reemember, it's OK to like a kids' show...! I, for example, still love Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy.

Oh God, what did I just say...

EDIT: This may help.

It may take some time, but you'll finally come to accept it, deal with the grief, move on, and become...

... one of us...

B · Post by B » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:48 am

hotrod28 wrote:Yeah, dragonball is a kids show. That's why they had to heavily edit and even completely cut episodes to MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.

I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show. Dragonball is not a show for children, it is a show for male teens. Since when did it become acceptable for a six year old kid to be running around muttering "bastard", "hell", and "damn?"

*Is extremely pissed that false labeling of dragonball still occurs even by the fans*

The show is not that complex at all, the basic ideas of friendship, loyalty, good vs. evil, the value of hard work, and all that other bullshit is laid out in black and white. I'm fairly certain a 10-year-old can grasps those concepts.

The most complex thing about Dragon Ball is it's inconsistencies.

You want a complex anime? Go watch FLCL. I guarantee you won't watch it just once and understand it.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:20 am

B wrote:You want a complex anime? Go watch FLCL. I guarantee you won't watch it just once and understand it.

FLCL isn't that complex. It's just full of subtle Japanese cultural stuff that makes it really hard to understand without knowing more about the parts of Japanese culture you can't find in the little boxes in a Japanese language textbook.

rzerox21xx · Post by **rzerox21xx** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:56 am

I would find it amusing if there's a guy like Chad warden criticizing DBZ like he did with the pstriple.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:00 pm

hotrod28 wrote:I'd love to see a child grasp any one of the complex concepts conveyed in the Japanese version of the show.

You're kidding, right?

cRookie_Monster · Post by **cRookie_Monster** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:54 pm

I just read a DBZ hate blog article and I gotta say I agreed with a lot of the things he said:

1. Too drawn out, takes a zillion episodes for anything to happen.

When you are working on the show its 20 times WORSE, cause I'd spend at least 16 hours watching each episode....

I wanted to %^&ing die during the Frieza saga especially when they said at the end of one show, "Ok no more messing around, lets fight for real!", and then in the very next episode Frieza decides to fight with no arms.....I wanted to puke. The Frieza saga was the worst one that I worked on though.

2. The whole infinite power thing is kinda ridiculous too. Frieza was able to blow up a planet untransformed in a flashback....how much more powerful did they get??

Anyway, it's definitely a cool show ^^ I just wanted to point out that the arguments I read weren't complete nonsense and can respect when that particular author said what he said. As a casual watcher I might have bailed on the Frieza fighting with no arms episode lol.