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Re: Funimation Buu release guess?

Post by mecha3000 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:11 pm

Oh, no (https://youtu.be/1mSvbRVkwyk?t=1345). Is Kyle Hebert suggesting here that he still hasn't finished recording his lines or was he just lying to not get in trouble? Is Hebert and a few other actors not finished recording for Kai's Buu Saga and this is why we still don't have it released? Does this mean Toonami will restart all of Kai unless Hebert can finish his lines in time or just air Super in 2017? FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON "DRAG-ON BUU Z KAI!!!"

No, but seriously though - I could've sworn Sean Schemmel said everyone had finished recording their lines but him at one point. But I'm pretty sure recently Sean said he finished so if Hebert is saying he's not finished, this contradicts Schemmel. AGH, I TIRE OF THIS CONFUSION!!!!!!! Also, honored to be the first post of the 51st page. Let's hope we don't make to 60 before something official comes up.....

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Post by Footlong Shoe » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:58 pm

mecha3000 wrote:Oh, no (https://youtu.be/1mSvbRVkwyk?t=1345). Is Kyle Hebert suggesting here that he still hasn't finished recording his lines or was he just lying to not get in trouble? Is Hebert and a few other actors not finished recording for Kai's Buu Saga and this is why we still don't have it released? Does this mean Toonami will restart all of Kai unless Hebert can finish his lines in time or just air Super in 2017?

Uh-oh. I hope this is just a cover-up (although I have no idea why they would actively try to hide Buu Kai) because if not, it is extremely unlikely that it will be finished by the time it's expected to air on Toonami. If Buu doesn't start after episode 98 I might just give up. That would most likely mean Kai isn't finished yet, and that Funimation is dropping it entirely to put Super in the spotlight.
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Post by thaman91 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:55 am

Well Hebert precedes that by saying that they can at least say that there will be a Super dub, since it's been officially announced. And then he curiously brings up the Buu saga of Kai right after, perhaps to contrast the situation, and mentions that "we're still waiting on that" and "maybe there's stuff to record....just give me a call [as if he were talking to FUNi]".

So yeah, I think he brought up Kai as a contrast to Super, where he's allowed to talk about the Super dub, but the Kai dub still hasn't been announced and so he has to act like he doesn't know anything about it. I didn't interpret it as him saying that he still had lines left to record, but rather that he was hyperbolically claiming to have not worked on it at all. And we obviously know that's not true. So I don't think this is anything to worry about. Maybe he's just perplexed at how it still hasn't been officially announced.

And remember, this is the same guy who, while on a podcast with Sean Schemmel, just let Sean go on and on talking about recording for Buu Kai whilst himself not acknowledging it at all. After all that description from Sean about the scene he was talking about, all Hebert could muster up was a measly "you can catch it uncut on Toonami, wink wink". That's it. I mean, you'd think that if it were a normal conversation, he'd say something like "Oh wow Sean, you made a really cool acting choice in that scene. Personally I approached it this way.....". But nope. He just abruptly ended that conversation and steered it towards censorship. So my take on Hebert is that he, after accidentally posting about Buu Kai on social media so many years ago, made the decision to never ever acknowledge having worked on it until it's officially announced. And that's what I think he's doing in that video.

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Re: Funimation Buu release guess?

Post by DBZ_Lee » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:30 am

thaman91 wrote:Well Hebert precedes that by saying that they can at least say that there will be a Super dub, since it's been officially announced. And then he curiously brings up the Buu saga of Kai right after, perhaps to contrast the situation, and mentions that "we're still waiting on that" and "maybe there's stuff to record....just give me a call [as if he were talking to FUNi]".

So yeah, I think he brought up Kai as a contrast to Super, where he's allowed to talk about the Super dub, but the Kai dub still hasn't been announced and so he has to act like he doesn't know anything about it. I didn't interpret it as him saying that he still had lines left to record, but rather that he was hyperbolically claiming to have not worked on it at all. And we obviously know that's not true. So I don't think this is anything to worry about. Maybe he's just perplexed at how it still hasn't been officially announced.

And remember, this is the same guy who, while on a podcast with Sean Schemmel, just let Sean go on and on talking about recording for Buu Kai whilst himself not acknowledging it at all. After all that description from Sean about the scene he was talking about, all Hebert could muster up was a measly "you can catch it uncut on Toonami, wink wink". That's it. I mean, you'd think that if it were a normal conversation, he'd say something like "Oh wow Sean, you made a really cool acting choice in that scene. Personally I approached it this way.....". But nope. He just abruptly ended that conversation and steered it towards censorship. So my take on Hebert is that he, after accidentally posting about Buu Kai on social media so many years ago, made the decision to never ever acknowledge having worked on it until it's officially announced. And that's what I think he's doing in that video.
He's done. All of Kai is done, Sean said back in Bristol this past April "they don't want me to tell you this" so I would say Kyle is playing along in order not to get his wrist slapped.
Anyhow, Chris Sabat mentions Kai and Gohan specifically in a past tense during the extras on the "F" home video release from last year.

It's likely they want it announced as another "surprise" shortly before it airs.
Toei most likely want it that way, too.

Also, Mexican Goku VA Mario Castañeda stated earlier this year that Toei wouldn't give them the rights to dub Super until Buu Kai was dubbed, mixed and ready to air, so I would guess the same applies to Funi.

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Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:20 am

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thaman91 wrote:Well Hebert precedes that by saying that they can at least say that there will be a Super dub, since it's been officially announced. And then he curiously brings up the Buu saga of Kai right after, perhaps to contrast the situation, and mentions that "we're still waiting on that" and "maybe there's stuff to record....just give me a call [as if he were talking to FUNi]".

So yeah, I think he brought up Kai as a contrast to Super, where he's allowed to talk about the Super dub, but the Kai dub still hasn't been announced and so he has to act like he doesn't know anything about it. I didn't interpret it as him saying that he still had lines left to record, but rather that he was hyperbolically claiming to have not worked on it at all. And we obviously know that's not true. So I don't think this is anything to worry about. Maybe he's just perplexed at how it still hasn't been officially announced.

And remember, this is the same guy who, while on a podcast with Sean Schemmel, just let Sean go on and on talking about recording for Buu Kai whilst himself not acknowledging it at all. After all that description from Sean about the scene he was talking about, all Hebert could muster up was a measly "you can catch it uncut on Toonami, wink wink". That's it. I mean, you'd think that if it were a normal conversation, he'd say something like "Oh wow Sean, you made a really cool acting choice in that scene. Personally I approached it this way.....". But nope. He just abruptly ended that conversation and steered it towards censorship. So my take on Hebert is that he, after accidentally posting about Buu Kai on social media so many years ago, made the decision to never ever acknowledge having worked on it until it's officially announced. And that's what I think he's doing in that video.
He's done. All of Kai is done, Sean said back in Bristol this past April "they don't want me to tell you this" so I would say Kyle is playing along in order not to get his wrist slapped.
Anyhow, Chris Sabat mentions Kai and Gohan specifically in a past tense during the extras on the "F" home video release from last year.

It's likely they want it announced as another "surprise" shortly before it airs.
Toei most likely want it that way, too.

Also, Mexican Goku VA Mario Castañeda stated earlier this year that Toei wouldn't give them the rights to dub Super until Buu Kai was dubbed, mixed and ready to air, so I would guess the same applies to Funi.
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Re: Funimation Buu release guess?

Post by Scsigs » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:50 pm

VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:
thaman91 wrote:Well Hebert precedes that by saying that they can at least say that there will be a Super dub, since it's been officially announced. And then he curiously brings up the Buu saga of Kai right after, perhaps to contrast the situation, and mentions that "we're still waiting on that" and "maybe there's stuff to record....just give me a call [as if he were talking to FUNi]".

So yeah, I think he brought up Kai as a contrast to Super, where he's allowed to talk about the Super dub, but the Kai dub still hasn't been announced and so he has to act like he doesn't know anything about it. I didn't interpret it as him saying that he still had lines left to record, but rather that he was hyperbolically claiming to have not worked on it at all. And we obviously know that's not true. So I don't think this is anything to worry about. Maybe he's just perplexed at how it still hasn't been officially announced.

And remember, this is the same guy who, while on a podcast with Sean Schemmel, just let Sean go on and on talking about recording for Buu Kai whilst himself not acknowledging it at all. After all that description from Sean about the scene he was talking about, all Hebert could muster up was a measly "you can catch it uncut on Toonami, wink wink". That's it. I mean, you'd think that if it were a normal conversation, he'd say something like "Oh wow Sean, you made a really cool acting choice in that scene. Personally I approached it this way.....". But nope. He just abruptly ended that conversation and steered it towards censorship. So my take on Hebert is that he, after accidentally posting about Buu Kai on social media so many years ago, made the decision to never ever acknowledge having worked on it until it's officially announced. And that's what I think he's doing in that video.
He's done. All of Kai is done, Sean said back in Bristol this past April "they don't want me to tell you this" so I would say Kyle is playing along in order not to get his wrist slapped.
Anyhow, Chris Sabat mentions Kai and Gohan specifically in a past tense during the extras on the "F" home video release from last year.

It's likely they want it announced as another "surprise" shortly before it airs.
Toei most likely want it that way, too.

Also, Mexican Goku VA Mario Castañeda stated earlier this year that Toei wouldn't give them the rights to dub Super until Buu Kai was dubbed, mixed and ready to air, so I would guess the same applies to Funi.
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Just using this as a jumping off point. Let's look at all of the data logically.
1. It's been over 2 years since Kai ended in Japan.
2. The Cell Saga's coming to a close on Toonami. It'll be done by the second to last week of December from my calculations.
3. Mario confirmed Toei wouldn't let them dub Super until Kai was dubbed, thus they must have the same policy for FUNimation. They have, or at least had, a similar policy with Saban for adapting Super Sentai seasons into Power Rangers seasons, so it stands to reason.
4. Sean confirmed it back in April. Everyone who still cares has been waiting patiently for the premiere. When one of your main actors (Kyle Hebert) is confused about its airing schedule, you know you're not getting information out at all & a lot of people are in the dark.
What FUNi should've done is put up an announcement with the Super announcement that Kai was going to start airing in January, which is what seems like is going to happen, or maybe a trailer on their YouTube channel for it. That way we wouldn't still be asking questions. The worst part about it is no one seems to care outside those of us who'll actually ask about it. I made a post on Reddit (warning, never do this unless you never want to see anyone agree with you, & most people who responded either don't care), or aren't worried about it. That's how much the Super announcement is hurting Kai.

So, we know it's coming, it's unconfirmed officially, but Sean confirmed it, they couldn't have gotten Super without doing the rest of Kai, it's coming in 2017, people are confused, FUNimation's not helping matters by not announcing anything, & when it does start airing, it's still going to be 69 weeks until Super premieres, unless they release the DVDs & Blu-Rays in 2017, or stream their dub on their streaming service.
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Re: Funimation Buu release guess?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:05 pm

Scsigs wrote:
VejituhTheWarriorGuy wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:
He's done. All of Kai is done, Sean said back in Bristol this past April "they don't want me to tell you this" so I would say Kyle is playing along in order not to get his wrist slapped.
Anyhow, Chris Sabat mentions Kai and Gohan specifically in a past tense during the extras on the "F" home video release from last year.

It's likely they want it announced as another "surprise" shortly before it airs.
Toei most likely want it that way, too.

Also, Mexican Goku VA Mario Castañeda stated earlier this year that Toei wouldn't give them the rights to dub Super until Buu Kai was dubbed, mixed and ready to air, so I would guess the same applies to Funi.
That was on the extras for Battle of Gods
Just using this as a jumping off point. Let's look at all of the data logically.
1. It's been over 2 years since Kai ended in Japan.
2. The Cell Saga's coming to a close on Toonami. It'll be done by the second to last week of December from my calculations.
3. Mario confirmed Toei wouldn't let them dub Super until Kai was dubbed, thus they must have the same policy for FUNimation. They have, or at least had, a similar policy with Saban for adapting Super Sentai seasons into Power Rangers seasons, so it stands to reason.
4. Sean confirmed it back in April. Everyone who still cares has been waiting patiently for the premiere. When one of your main actors (Kyle Hebert) is confused about its airing schedule, you know you're not getting information out at all & a lot of people are in the dark.
What FUNi should've done is put up an announcement with the Super announcement that Kai was going to start airing in January, which is what seems like is going to happen, or maybe a trailer on their YouTube channel for it. That way we wouldn't still be asking questions. The worst part about it is no one seems to care outside those of us who'll actually ask about it. I made a post on Reddit (warning, never do this unless you never want to see anyone agree with you, & most people who responded either don't care), or aren't worried about it. That's how much the Super announcement is hurting Kai.

So, we know it's coming, it's unconfirmed officially, but Sean confirmed it, they couldn't have gotten Super without doing the rest of Kai, it's coming in 2017, people are confused, FUNimation's not helping matters by not announcing anything, & when it does start airing, it's still going to be 69 weeks until Super premieres, unless they release the DVDs & Blu-Rays in 2017, or stream their dub on their streaming service.
Super will almost certainly not premier on Toonami, Buu Kai is looking to be the only part of the franchise this will be the case for. Schemmel has already confirmed Super will air on basic cable early next year.
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Super will almost certainly not premier on Toonami, Buu Kai is looking to be the only part of the franchise this will be the case for. Schemmel has already confirmed Super will air on basic cable early next year.
Really? When & where? On TV, but also when & where did he say this as well, I guess.
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Adult Swim IS basic cable too.

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:36 pm

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Super will almost certainly not premier on Toonami, Buu Kai is looking to be the only part of the franchise this will be the case for. Schemmel has already confirmed Super will air on basic cable early next year.
Really? When & where? On TV, but also when & where did he say this as well, I guess.
He didn't specify what channel, but it will be on TV. I'm guessing Nickelodeon. He said this at Wizard World ComicCon, which is in Pittsburgh.
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True, True. I'm a major pusher for DBSuper airing somewhere else after all!

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Cure Dragon 255 wrote:True, True. I'm a major pusher for DBSuper airing somewhere else after all!
Somewhere else than Toonami? Why? I agree the timing is bad for the earliest it would air there, summer 2018 if they don't do hour blocks for Kai, but seeing as Cartoon Network seems to hate Toonami despite bringing it back on Adult Swim, & cut back the slot to 3 hours a while ago, that seems unlikely. Unless they give them the 8:00-12:00 block Adult Swim just has to have on Saturday nights.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:27 pm

Sean also pretty much confirmed that there will be an edited dub of Super. Someone asked him if they were going to use Satan in Super and Sean replied "most likely in the uncut dub". So doesn't look like Toonami.

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Cure Dragon 255 wrote:True, True. I'm a major pusher for DBSuper airing somewhere else after all!
Somewhere else than Toonami? Why? I agree the timing is bad for the earliest it would air there, summer 2018 if they don't do hour blocks for Kai, but seeing as Cartoon Network seems to hate Toonami despite bringing it back on Adult Swim, & cut back the slot to 3 hours a while ago, that seems unlikely. Unless they give them the 8:00-12:00 block Adult Swim just has to have on Saturday nights.
I think I've said it before on these forums, but I really don't want Toonami to get super just because of how limited that block is

Only one episode a week ever with no chance for reruns, save for rare marathons and unless they bring back the half hour at the beginning of AS that they did for Kai for a while (but that's still only one rerun a week), would be terrible for a brand new show like super and I doubt Toei would let them put it there for that reason in addition to the late night timing in general

Personally I'm all for super getting a slightly-to-moderately edited dub somewhere else if it means more people getting to watch it more often and Kai's Buu arc dub coming out before 2020
It's not like the DVD/Blurays won't be uncut anyway

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Cure Dragon 255 wrote:True, True. I'm a major pusher for DBSuper airing somewhere else after all!
Somewhere else than Toonami? Why? I agree the timing is bad for the earliest it would air there, summer 2018 if they don't do hour blocks for Kai, but seeing as Cartoon Network seems to hate Toonami despite bringing it back on Adult Swim, & cut back the slot to 3 hours a while ago, that seems unlikely. Unless they give them the 8:00-12:00 block Adult Swim just has to have on Saturday nights.
I think I've said it before on these forums, but I really don't want Toonami to get super just because of how limited that block is

Only one episode a week ever with no chance for reruns, save for rare marathons and unless they bring back the half hour at the beginning of AS that they did for Kai for a while (but that's still only one rerun a week), would be terrible for a brand new show like super and I doubt Toei would let them put it there for that reason in addition to the late night timing in general

Personally I'm all for super getting a slightly-to-moderately edited dub somewhere else if it means more people getting to watch it more often and Kai's Buu arc dub coming out before 2020
It's not like the DVD/Blurays won't be uncut anyway
I guess I get it. It's not like the dub will be incorrect in its translation anyways, even in edited form. I'm just wondering where it'll air. It's not like Toonami airing it would be a bad thing, you know. It's just that the timing will be off. I wouldn't be adverse to it airing there in uncut form when Kai gets done, which, as I've said, is going to be January 2017, if you weren't paying attention. 2018 is the earliest Super could air there, unless they have it start airing while Kai airs the Buu Saga as well. I don't even think anyone would even mind that either. The thing is though, where are they going to air it? Cartoon Network HATES any show that isn't for humor over seriousness, Disney hates cartoons on their main channel, but maybe Nickelodeon. Thing is, it can't be Nicktoons again. I had Charter when Kai aired there & not any expensive package either, just regular cable, so I wasn't able to watch it. Thankfully I got the DVDs, but still.
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Scsigs wrote:Thing is, it can't be Nicktoons again.
Curiously, why is that? Both Kai and GT aired there.
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Post by AzuraRacon » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:52 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
Scsigs wrote:Thing is, it can't be Nicktoons again.
Curiously, why is that? Both Kai and GT aired there.
Yeah between power rangers, Yu-Gi-Oh, and their own Avatar series, it's not like they're really opposed to airing anime, anime-esque, or Japan-originating shows in general

Wasn't Kai even their post popular show on Nicktoons for a good while towards the beginning of Cell?

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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:04 pm

I think they said so because Sean said Basic Cable which Nicktoons isnt.

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Post by huzaifa_ahmed » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:19 pm

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Valerius Dover wrote:This is more or less consistent with what's been going on, though. Remember back when VAs were dropping hints about Buu Kai? Has anyone noticed that there hasn't been a single mention of it since Super's original announcement in 2015? I theorize that the already completed or almost complete Buu Kai release was canceled because of Super. Kai was a big deal in the absence of a new series, but with a new series around now, nobody would really be interested in more of a recut.
I dunno, if the dub's finished as Sean Schemmel said, then I can't see it just being scrapped
Maybe with a smaller company or a "lesser" property, but not Funimation with anything Dragon Ball, even if it is just a recut
This is seriously not a remotely comparable situation. Buu Kai is a continuation of a dub of a recently (ish) released property. Ocean's Kai has nothing to do with FUNi, it's some unsuccessful company's attempt at a Kai dub for Canada. We already *have* an (much cheaper, too!) English dub of Kai part 1, so there's no need. Whereas Kai is just waiting for TV to get to it.

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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:38 pm

He didnt compare it to Ocean...

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