Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[FortuneSSJ]

In just one chapter of FoF, we've received so many plot holes/inconsistencies, it's kind of embarrassing. I'm still looking forward to the movie though.

Now, I'm curious... Can you please note those many plot holes/inconsistencies?

I would like to know too.

[shinmaru]

The Goku And Bejita picture are legit http://vjump.shueisha.co.jp/

[RandomGuy96]

In terms of feats Friza had the best feats hands down. lifting an island, surviving a poink blank planet explosion while being heavily injured, flicking away planet vegeta which had 10x times the earth gravity with his finger and more.

What? He never even blew up a planet under his own power in the manga. Going by manga feats, the most impressive character by far would be Pure Majin Buu. He blew up Earth with an energy blast that could have destroyed a star.

[Kakarot9001]

Battle of Gods only got mixed response on here and negative in Dbzf. Everywhere else was positive. So far the movie is only getting heat from here. Everywhere else I've been is a positive response. Also this is NOT the biggest DB website. It's the most used for sources but hardly biggest fan site.

Well then, if isn't Kanzenshuu the biggest Dragon Ball franchise site, what is it then?

And for BOG, it was received more negative than positive reviews, also there was a plot hole in BOG which always left me appalled:

Isn't Bra older than Pan? Why the hell she isn't present in movie? Or Bulma to me pregnant or something...

I hope Toriyama don't forget about her again in this new movie, for real

[Doctor.]

Battle of Gods only got mixed response on here and negative in Dbzf. Everywhere else was positive. So far the movie is only getting heat from here. Everywhere else I've been is a positive response. Also this is NOT the biggest DB website. It's the most used for sources but hardly biggest fan site.

Well then, if isn't Kanzenshuu the biggest Dragon Ball franchise site, what is it then?

And for BOG, it was received more negative than positive reviews, also there was a plot hole in BOG hich always left me appalled:

Isn't Bra older than Pan? Why the hell she isn't present in movie? Or Bulma to me pregnant or something...

I hope Toriyama don't forget about her again in this new movie, for real

Their ages were only established in GT.

We get a confirmation that Pan is older with BoG.

[Tyro]

In just one chapter of FoF, we've received so many plot holes/inconsistencies, it's kind of embarrassing. I'm still looking forward to the movie though.

Now, I'm curious... Can you please note those many plot holes/inconsistencies?

I would like to know too.

Haven't we been talking about those plotholes for the past 10 pages? "Why does Freeza have a body in Hell?", "Why is Freeza resurrected in pieces?", "How can Freeza's power jump so much in 4 months?", "Why wasn't Freeza reincarnated?", etc, etc.

[fadeddreams5]

In just one chapter of FoF, we've received so many plot holes/inconsistencies, it's kind of embarrassing. I'm still looking forward to the movie though.

Now, I'm curious... Can you please note those many plot holes/inconsistencies?

1. The whole Mecha Frieza being in chunks thing. Besides the facts that these chunks were blown into dust, Krillin also faced the same fate on namek, but didn't need to be put back together.

2. Frieza preached being the strongest in the universe, yet was aware of Majin Buu and Beerus? These weren't just legends; his father specifically told him to never touch them, as he would be wrecked.

3. On that note, why spend a lifetime fearing a SSJ legend when you were told by your father that there are two beings, that actually exist, who are already stronger than you could ever be?

4. In fact, why care about any terror in the universe if you already know you are a prodigy and can become millions of times stronger by training in just 4 months...

5. Speaking of which, the training thing. If he'd known this, surely he could have trained before being killed on Earth? I mean, a week should have sufficed for Mr. Prodigy. Why be so fearful over the sight of Trunks in the first place?

6. Wasn't there a limit in the dragon balls as to how long someone has to have been dead before they are revived?

7. Why does Frieza have a body in hell?

Mind you, I can provide justifications for all of this:
1. Maybe only bad guys are revived the same way they are killed (he was already dead before Trunk blew the bits). Thus, this doesn't apply to Krillin.
2. Maybe King Cold's words were lost on Frieza. He saw Majin Buu as a legend, much like SSJs, and underestimated Beerus since he never actually confronted him (...or has he? O_O).
3. Maybe his new mecha upgrades made him confident he could win against SSJ Goku, so he didn't think he needed any training. That, or his potential was lost the minute his organic side was replaced with cybernetic parts. That or...he just got an epiphany after being revived upon hearing that Goku could defeat Majin Buu. "If he can become so much stronger by training, maybe so can I!"
4. New dragon ball set, new off-screen rules?
5. Maybe Frieza doesn't really have a body in hell, per se. That's just his powerless soul, and his "hell" is different from the "hell" another villain may face. For example, Cell's hell may consist of people poking fun at how "imperfect" he is, as opposed to being surrounded by cute stuff.

But none of that is implied. Until there are canon justifications, all of that is pretty inconsistent. =P

[Doctor.]

Haven't we been talking about those plotholes for the past 10 pages? "Why does Freeza have a body in Hell?", "Why is Freeza resurrected in pieces?", "How can Freeza's power jump so much in 4 months?", "Why wasn't Freeza reincarnated?", etc, etc.

The only plot hole there is the first question, which can be interpreted as a retcon of low importance. The rest can be deduced easily or have yet to be answered.

[Dyno]

And just to let things cleaned up. What happened to that rule of reviving someone from over one year?

[FortuneSSJ]

Isn't Bra older than Pan? Why the hell she isn't present in movie? Or Bulma to me pregnant or something...
I hope Toriyama don't forget about her again in this new movie, for real

Looking to Videl, you couldn't tell she has pregnat.

Bulma lied about her age. Her Birthday party could be to celebrate something more...
They never said, Bra was older in manga or anime. That's what matters to me.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

I wonder if they'll put out a Mecha Freeza figure that breaks into pieces if you push a button on his back or something, then you can reassemble him. I think some fridge magnets of Freeza's body parts would be kinda neat. You can scramble them all over your fridge or you can put them together to form Freeza.

By the way, is it too much to hope that Sorbet ends up being the final villain in this movie somehow. I hope he at least plays a sizeable role in Freeza's revenge now that we know Tagoma gets tossed aside in the first 10/20 minutes of the movie.

[dbgtFO]

Apparently this is Trunks from Freeza's flashback:

[Kakarot9001]

Isn't Bra older than Pan? Why the hell she isn't present in movie? Or Bulma to me pregnant or something...
I hope Toriyama don't forget about her again in this new movie, for real

Looking to Videl, you couldn't tell she has pregnat.

Bulma lied about her age. Her Birthday party could be to celebrate something more...
They never said, Bra was older in manga or anime. That's what matters to me.

In the manga she is cleary older, pal...

Pan is like 4 and Bra is like 6 or 7

and do you ignore Daizenshuu?

[Doctor.]

1. The whole Mecha Freeza being in chunks thing. Besides the facts that these chunks were blown into dust, Krillin also faced the same fate on namek, but didn't need to be put back together.

Kuririn was put together because Porunga was feeling generous, he says it himself. Shenlong was not in this particular instance. Simple enough, no big deal.

2. Freeza preached being the strongest in the universe, yet was aware of Majin Buu and Beerus? These weren't just legends; his father specifically told him to never touch them, as he would be wrecked.

He also said he was the strongest in the universe whilst getting destroyed by SSJ Goku. He's arrogant, what can you say? Plus, both Boo and Beerus were absent during his time of reign.

3. On that note, why spend a lifetime fearing a SSJ legend when you were told by your father that there are two beings, that actually exist, who are already stronger than you could ever be?

Who says he didn't fear them both too? Just because he fears the SSJ, doesn't mean he can't fear Boo and Beerus as well.

4. In fact, why care about any terror in the universe if you already know you are a prodigy and can become millions of times stronger by training in just 4 months...

We don't even have the answer to that yet. He could have learned of that whilst in Hell. He could have had some kind of power sealed away that was brought back when he was revived, etc. It's unfair to call it a plot hole until we know everything.

5. Speaking of which, the training thing. If he'd known this, surely he could have trained before being killed on Earth? I mean, a week should have sufficed for Mr. Prodigy. Why be so fearful over the sight of Trunks in the first place?

Same as above.

6. Wasn't there a limit in the dragon balls as to how long someone has to have been dead before they are revived?

The time limit was only imposed specifically when trying to revive a large number of people. Even though it's likely Toriyama just forgot about it, it was never directly stated in the manga that you could only revive one person within one year.

7. Why does Freeza have a body in hell?

Minor retcon of a thing that was never expanded at all in the main series. For all we know, he could be undergoing the purification process, in which he needs a body.

[Marco Polo]

Maybe Shenron actually just makes up the rules as he goes along, and since it's been a while since the previous sagas he tends to forget certain details.

As for Frieza's body in hell, maybe his punishment requires that he has a body. Whereas random dead people who don't get special punishment don't need bodies.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

1. The whole Mecha Freeza being in chunks thing. Besides the facts that these chunks were blown into dust, Krillin also faced the same fate on namek, but didn't need to be put back together.

2. Freeza preached being the strongest in the universe, yet was aware of Majin Buu and Beerus? These weren't just legends; his father specifically told him to never touch them, as he would be wrecked.

3. On that note, why spend a lifetime fearing a SSJ legend when you were told by your father that there are two beings, that actually exist, who are already stronger than you could ever be?

1. Didn't Porunga make it a point of saying that he gave Kuririn a new body "free of charge", or something to that effect.
2 &. 3. Well Buu was sealed away and Beerus was sleeping, so I guess he was the strongest active being in the universe.

[TheGmGoken]

Battle of Gods only got mixed response on here and negative in Dbzf. Everywhere else was positive. So far the movie is only getting heat from here. Everywhere else I've been is a positive response. Also this is NOT the biggest DB website. It's the most used for sources but hardly biggest fan site.

Well then, if isn't Kanzenshuu the biggest Dragon Ball franchise site, what is it then?

And for BOG, it was received more negative than positive reviews, also there was a plot hole in BOG which always left me appalled:

Isn't Bra older than Pan? Why the hell she isn't present in movie? Or Bulma to me pregnant or something...

I hope Toriyama don't forget about her again in this new movie, for real

I said Kanzenshuu is the biggest news site. But it's definitely not the biggest forum in terms of members and active members. Also that's not a plot hole. Pan is older than Bra

[dbgtFO]

Minor retcon of a thing that was never expanded at all in the main series. For all we know, he could be undergoing the purification process, in which he needs a body.

I too think that is what's happening. As soon as Freeza starts finding them cute and stuff he wouldn't be far off getting reincarnated.

So is this the colored title cover?

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

So is this the colored title cover?

Looks like it was coloured by a fan. And when I say "it looks like", I mean it is.

[Marco Polo]

3. On that note, why spend a lifetime fearing a SSJ legend when you were told by your father that there are two beings, that actually exist, who are already stronger than you could ever be?

Vegeta also claimed to be the strongest being in the universe even though Frieza and tons of Frieza servants were stronger than him, and he also knew about Beerus from his childhood.