Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[Chuquita]

Mini-CM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP8gKMZk ... ture=ytfce
There's a little bit of new footage. :3

[worldmonsters]

On why Vegetto and Gogeta aren't in the movie and probably not going to be:

Vegetto: This one is easy. They need fusion earrings, and while those are available, remember that if they fuse, it's permanent. Do you really think they (the writers) are going to rehash the same situation that Goku and Vegeta have no other choice but to fuse? It's been done, it'd be very poor writing if they repeated it and even poorer if at the end they were to defuse magically AGAIN. Besides, as I understand it, because Goku and Vegeta had been one being with shared thoughts, they now understand eachother. Goku destroys the fusion earring later, because he now knows exactly how Vegeta feels about fusion. In the same vein Vegeta later understand Goku and decides to give on becoming better than him (or at least accepts that he probably won't go stronger).

Gogeta: Because this was a Movie 12 thing only (and yes, I know GT, but this movie... well it's pretty clear that it kinda cancels out GT, because Pilaf still being young at the end, unless they fix that in a next movie). Movie 12 doesn't fit into the manga story at all... So they'd have to re-introduce him and make everyone act like they've never seen or felt it before. Of both of the fusions this one seems the most plausible of course, but clearly the Potarra fusion was stronger. So it'd be sort of a step back... To me it just doesn't feel right that this would work story-wise, but it's sort of plausible.

Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta: I just don't think Super Saiyan 3 is as important now as it used to be after Super Saiyan God. Still plausible, but highly unlikely as it's not Dragon Ball-ish anymore. It doesn't fit into the same style that they're running with now, at least that's what I think.

[Marco Polo]

Vegetto: This one is easy. They need fusion earrings, and while those are available, remember that if they fuse, it's permanent. Do you really think they (the writers) are going to rehash the same situation that Goku and Vegeta have no other choice but to fuse? It's been done, it'd be very poor writing if they repeated it and even poorer if at the end they were to defuse magically AGAIN. Besides, as I understand it, because Goku and Vegeta had been one being with shared thoughts, they now understand eachother. Goku destroys the fusion earring later, because he now knows exactly how Vegeta feels about fusion. In the same vein Vegeta later understand Goku and decides to give on becoming better than him (or at least accepts that he probably won't go stronger).

They could just enter Mr. Buu's body to defuse. I definitely agree that it would be cheap though; it doesn't sound like something the writers would do, because it makes things too easy. But technically the characters could do it.

Given that Elder Kaioshin says that Super Saiyan transformations is the wrong and flashy way of doing things AKA Toriyama probably got lazy around the time and just had him say that so he wouldn't have to change Gohan much, Toriyama was probably still in his "barely changing = stronger" school of thought when he designed SSJG.

I doubt he remembers such an offhand remark. The characters seem to have no qualms summoning Shenron again despite the fact that Pilaf and co. did it recently and that the Elder Kaioshin said the Dragon Balls shouldn't be overused.

[The Monkey King]

I know Goku loses the actual SSJG form, but does he lose it's power also or can he keep it in his SSJ1 forever as shown in his space fight with Bills.

[SSJ4_Zankuto]

The way Buriusu uses the chopsticks is like watching Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee in their movies kicking asses. Buriusu is probably Chuck Norris the way he sends people flying into a lake or river.

[FindKenshi]

For all we know Super Saiyan God does have SSj4's fur ... you just can't see it under Goku's clothing lol

[Naughty Kinto Un]

I'm so glad they went for something other than Vegetto or SSJ3 Vegeta. Hell, I'm glad SSJ God wasn't your typical next level power up and had relevance to an earlier plot point (the Pan reveal).

Vegetto, Gogeta, SSJ3 Vegeta... that's fanservice. Boring, lazy, repetitive fanservice. Would've turned me off the movie.

I love the fact that Goku doesn't quite defeat Birusu, even admits his own defeat, yet put up enough of a fight to inadvertently force Birusu to expend all the energy he needed to destroy Earth. There's a real moral lesson in there. Even when all hope is lost, trying one's best is still worthwhile. To me, that is what Dragon Ball is all about. The soul of Dragon Ball.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Mini-CM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP8gKMZk ... ture=ytfce
There's a little bit of new footage. :3

Anyone else noticed that they changed the blue aura into the flaming aura when Goku was powering up into Super Saiyan God?

[hleV]

For all we know Super Saiyan God does have SSj4's fur ... you just can't see it under Goku's clothing lol

There's no fur on his hands.

[fogdark]

Mini-CM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP8gKMZk ... ture=ytfce
There's a little bit of new footage. :3

Ah yes, this quick commercial aired right before One Piece started, it was a nice surprise when I saw it.
I love that scene when Goku is walking forward. Everyone behind him have the same hopeful look, as if thinking, "Goku's here! yay~!"

Also, about SSj God, even though it's has "Super Saiyajin" on it's name, that's where the similarities with regular SSj end, I think. The way Kei explained it to us, SSj God is something completely different, so it makes sense if it doesn't look at all similar to any of the SSj transformations. What's more, since Shenlong apparently explains how it was used once by a saiyajin in Planet Vegeta (a time where the Super Saiyajin transformation was just a legend) then it makes even more sense if it's a modification of a saiyajin's base form. And seeing such power, at a time where the strongest saiyajin form was the Oozaru, then it's no wonder the saiyajins of long ago, gave that transformation the name of Super Saiyajin God.

[Marco Polo]

Mini-CM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP8gKMZk ... ture=ytfce
There's a little bit of new footage. :3

Anyone else noticed that they changed the blue aura into the flaming aura when Goku was powering up into Super Saiyan God?

I hadn't noticed it It looks much better than the blue stuff. I guess the blue stuff was placeholder before they added the CGI flames.

[andr1y7]

I was wondering...from what we know Bills ran out of energy so he wasn't able to destroy Earth. But, as demonstrated by many characters, it doesn't take that much energy to destroy a planet so Bills must have been very weakened. Assuming Goku was low on energy too, why didn't the others step in and finish Bills off?

[Naughty Kinto Un]

I was wondering...from what we know Bills ran out of energy so he wasn't able to destroy Earth. But, as demonstrated by many characters, it doesn't take that much energy to destroy a planet so Bills must have been very weakened. Assuming Goku was low on energy too, why didn't the others step in and finish Bills off?

This is just a guess, but maybe Uisu had something to do with it?

[Marco Polo]

I was wondering...from what we know Bills ran out of energy so he wasn't able to destroy Earth. But, as demonstrated by many characters, it doesn't take that much energy to destroy a planet so Bills must have been very weakened. Assuming Goku was low on energy too, why didn't the others step in and finish Bills off?

This is just a guess, but maybe Uisu had something to do with it?

Someone has put forth the theory that Bills didn't actually run out of energy but had simply come to an agreement with Goku not to destroy the Earth... for now. (Goku would have earned Bills' respect while talking to him in space after their battle. None of the other Z Fighters would know about the agreement.)

[Viltsu300]

Is it true that Bills gets mad because Majin Buu didn't give him an ice cream?

[Naughty Kinto Un]

I was wondering...from what we know Bills ran out of energy so he wasn't able to destroy Earth. But, as demonstrated by many characters, it doesn't take that much energy to destroy a planet so Bills must have been very weakened. Assuming Goku was low on energy too, why didn't the others step in and finish Bills off?

This is just a guess, but maybe Uisu had something to do with it?

Someone has put forth the theory that Bills didn't actually run out of energy but had simply come to an agreement with Goku not to destroy the Earth... for now. (Goku would have earned Bills' respect while talking to him in space after their battle. None of the other Z Fighters would know about the agreement.)

I doubt it. I think Kei would've mentioned that part.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Is it true that Bills gets mad because Majin Buu didn't give him an ice cream?

It's custard puddings, but yeah that's correct.

Someone has put forth the theory that Bills didn't actually run out of energy but had simply come to an agreement with Goku not to destroy the Earth... for now. (Goku would have earned Bills' respect while talking to him in space after their battle. None of the other Z Fighters would know about the agreement.)

I doubt it. I think Kei would've mentioned that part.

I think it was Kei who said that maybe Birusu changed his mind about destroying the earth.

[Naughty Kinto Un]

Is it true that Bills gets mad because Majin Buu didn't give him an ice cream?

It's custard puddings, but yeah that's correct.

Someone has put forth the theory that Bills didn't actually run out of energy but had simply come to an agreement with Goku not to destroy the Earth... for now. (Goku would have earned Bills' respect while talking to him in space after their battle. None of the other Z Fighters would know about the agreement.)

I doubt it. I think Kei would've mentioned that part.

I think it was Kei who said that maybe Birusu changed his mind about destroying the earth.

Yeah? Then I guess it's likely. Wonder why Birusu would change his mind though.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

I think it was just the impression Kei might have had after watching the scene if I'm remembering correctly.

I guess Birusu just thought that destroying earth, and Goku after he got a good fight, and enjoyed himself at the party(?) would be a waste.

[Marco Polo]

The reason the other fighters don't step in could also be that Uisu karate chops Beers before they attack, surprising them.