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by Dyno » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:35 pm
Doctor. wrote:So it does appear that the image of Whis fighting Vegeta and Goku is indeed legitimate. Which probably implies what most already speculated, that Vegeta gained Godly Ki off-screen and both are training with Whis and Beerus.
Vegeta got Super Saiyan God off-screen!?

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by TheGmGoken » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:37 pm
Dyno wrote:Doctor. wrote:So it does appear that the image of Whis fighting Vegeta and Goku is indeed legitimate. Which probably implies what most already speculated, that Vegeta gained Godly Ki off-screen and both are training with Whis and Beerus.
Vegeta got Super Saiyan God off-screen!?

Prepare for Vegeta's fanbase rage.
The entire movie is a flashback

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by Doctor. » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:40 pm
Dyno wrote:Doctor. wrote:So it does appear that the image of Whis fighting Vegeta and Goku is indeed legitimate. Which probably implies what most already speculated, that Vegeta gained Godly Ki off-screen and both are training with Whis and Beerus.
Vegeta got Super Saiyan God off-screen!?

Prepare for Vegeta's fanbase rage.
I don't see why else he would be training with Whis and Beerus if he's so weak without it. Plus, it's not like there's anything stopping them for doing it for every Saiyan who wants it or that we all need to see the same ritual again

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by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:44 pm
I'm conflicted on the idea of Vegeta having already been given Super Saiyan God off-screen. On the one hand, we know exactly how he'd attain it. Barring there being some conflict being required for him to be given it to fight alongside Goku (which I assumed would be something that would happen in this movie), there's not really going to be any differences from what we saw with Goku getting the form. On the other hand though, it is a tad anti-climactic.
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by EA575 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:47 pm
Well he got SSJ off-screen, so it wouldn't be too far off

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by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:49 pm
Well yeah, but we still got to see it happen in a flashback, in the anime at least.

Though I guess there's nothing saying we won't have the same kind of thing happen here if he does already have the form at the start.
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by Sora Saiyan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:52 pm
Marco Polo wrote:FortuneSSJ wrote:Sora Saiyan wrote:
Something I'm wondering about is the depiction of hell, I mean is it possible everybody has their own version of hell and the one we've seen with Freeza is his "hell"?
I'm thinking about this too. Its seems like this one is just for him but there's no confirmation.
I like the idea. Everyone have things they don't like. So being tortured by that, become their hell seems appropriate.
Goku's hell could be no food and only angry chichis and needles.
Toriyama still has some skills to make interesting things.
Is Freeza actually being tortured though? Someone suggested that showing all these good, cute things could actually be the literal process of purification of his soul. A process that we knew about from the manga but which we had never seen depicted.
It's very possible, and it does make sense
Marco Polo it's just when I was reading through pages when that picture was first revealed I thought somebody mentioned the word "Hell" is written on it. So in my head it was more to say that's Freezas hell, it could be either though.
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by Chuquita » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:54 pm
Re: Gokû's hell.
More than that, it'd be someplace where he's literally unable to train.
Think of that Twilight Zone episode about the gambler in hell who wins every game he plays. Chances literally do not exist.
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by Saiga » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:55 pm
Doctor. wrote:So it does appear that the image of Whis fighting Vegeta and Goku is indeed legitimate. Which probably implies what most already speculated, that Vegeta gained Godly Ki off-screen and both are training with Whis and Beerus.
Hold up, where's this image?!
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by Dyno » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:55 pm
Even if it is that the case, fans will be complaining a lot. I see the comments on Facebook and they are already upset by having seen Vegeta's scared face yet again (first in Battle of Gods), thinking this will be another Kakarot's movie. Just imagine when they see Vegeta got Super Saiyan God transformation off-screen/brief flashback. I can do nothing but laugh.

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by Doctor. » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:57 pm
Saiga wrote:Doctor. wrote:So it does appear that the image of Whis fighting Vegeta and Goku is indeed legitimate. Which probably implies what most already speculated, that Vegeta gained Godly Ki off-screen and both are training with Whis and Beerus.
Hold up, where's this image?!
http://i.imgur.com/h6TD3BK.jpg
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by Chuquita » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:58 pm
Doctor. wrote:Saiga wrote:Doctor. wrote:So it does appear that the image of Whis fighting Vegeta and Goku is indeed legitimate. Which probably implies what most already speculated, that Vegeta gained Godly Ki off-screen and both are training with Whis and Beerus.
Hold up, where's this image?!
http://i.imgur.com/h6TD3BK.jpg
Oh that's cool!!
Where'd it come from?!
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by Beerus-sama » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:02 pm
Can somebody tell me what is Beerus shouting in those sketch images?

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by FortuneSSJ » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:02 pm
Dyno wrote:Even if it is that the case, fans will be complaining a lot. I see the comments on Facebook and they are already upset by having seen Vegeta's scared face yet again (first in Battle of Gods), thinking this will be another Kakarot's movie. Just imagine when they see Vegeta got Super Saiyan God transformation off-screen/brief flashback. I can do nothing but laugh.

Fans will complain about everything. Especially the ones that have the syndrome-everything that is new sucks.
Vegeta reused scared shot was already discussed here and I think most of us found that to be pointless and lazy. Its just stupid. And easily can became a meme.
Beerus-sama wrote:Can somebody tell me what is Beerus shouting in those sketch images?

A Ki blast. Most likely, right away after he awakes. Appears in the last trailer we got.
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by Tennessaiyan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:02 pm
If Vegeta gained godly ki off-screen, I don't really think that's a bad thing... I mean, it wouldn't be all that special since we've already seen Goku transform. I'm just wandering if he'll get that special aura at all, though, since I guess it's possible that he could just keep his upgraded base form like Goku apparently does now. I'll admit though, I'd love to see Vegeta with a new transformation, with either red or blue hair.
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by Kakarot9001 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:05 pm
Kakarot9001 wrote:
In the manga she is cleary older, pal...
Pan is like 4 and Bra is like 6 or 7
and do you ignore Daizenshuu?
Yes. I only take as a fact what I read in the manga. I don't remember they saying she was older. But I may be wrong.
I don't know, maybe it is a plot hole... But I really hate the way Toriyama put no efforts at all to rembember importants details
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by shinmaru » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:06 pm
SaiyaJedi wrote:shinmaru wrote:Yes It's him
その1 3号連続掲載!
劇場版ドラゴンボールZ「復活の『F』」コミカライズの第1話掲載!!
大注目の劇場版ドラゴンボール最新作が、映画公開前に、な、なんとマンガで読めてしまう!? 超スペクタクルのバトルを描くのは、鳥山先生も認める、とよたろう先生! 全3話を通して読めば、映画をより深く理解し、よりハイテンションで楽しめるはず! 公開が待ちきれないなら読むしかないぜッ!!
From here
http://vjump.shueisha.co.jp/news/news201502_01.html
The text you quoted says nothing about the image referenced.
Personally, my money's on Toriyama. The shading of that illustration doesn't look at all like Toyotarō's work to me.
You're right it's not referring to the picture but he associated with it. My bad.
Toyo style is more like GT but maybe he can mimic different styles.
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by Dbzfan94 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:09 pm
Okay I missed these new Beerus / Whis leaks. What page were they on?