Funimation's 30th anniversary collectible home video release

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Guys, remember that the Level crushing was because of the film prints from the early run. Not only did the crushing become far less pronounced as the set went on as far as it did, but because it was an artefact of the film itself, remember that this is really what the original airing prints would have looked like.
So, while the negatives at Toei would provide a better overall picture, there is something to be said for the Levels as they were presenting a look closer to how the show would have looked if you'd watched one of the TV prints when they were fresh.

Personally, I love the look of the Levels; it's a proper reproduction of what the original film looked like, the picture is sharp as a tack, every detail clear and evident (unlike Kai, which was so soft and blurry, it would often had less detail than the Dragon Boxes), and the gritty texture of the cels, the film, etc. comes through magnificently. It feels like you're watching a show perfectly preserved and rendered from its origins in the late '80s/early '90s, which is how a restoration of this material should feel, especially for a show with a somewhat gritty, grindhouse look to it like Dragon Ball does.
You're not watching some scrubbed, disgusting, soft, faux-digital-looking mess like the HD remaster of Buffy or some of the worse-looking Disney animated classic remasters, you're watching this '80s/'90s show, as it should be seen; with all the grit of the original production on full display, not disguising it behind a shiny sheen that attempts to make it fit in with the overly-clean look of the modern run. Warts and all.

I would prefer to see it remastered from Toei's negatives, particularly since that would allow those 35mm Namek arc episodes to shine in the detail and clarity one would expect from that (Funi only has 16mm of the run of Z), but if they are using the Level masters, that will be more than acceptable.

Yeah the Level sets are pretty damn nice looking quality wise for being based from third generation film masters, i would say were it not for missing the proper elements found with the Dragon Boxes (proper OP/ED, credits, NEP's and Japanese title cards) that they would no doubt be the definitive releases of the series had they been released in their entirety.

[Robo4900]

Yeah they are pretty damn nice looking quality wise for being based from third generation film masters, i would say were it not for missing the proper elements found with the Dragon Boxes (proper OP/ED, credits, NEP's, Japanese titles) that they would no doubt be the definitive releases.

Honestly, I have a hard time seeing the credits, NEPs, and Japanese titles as a serious issue like so many tend to cite them as...
Like, I would prefer them to have both Japanese and English title cards so when I'm watching in Japanese, I don't have two different episode titles popping up every episode, but I don't really mind. In fact, IMO one solution if multiple angles aren't allowed -- for whatever reason -- would simply be to actually have blank title cards, and have the Japanese sub track or a forced sub track when watching dubbed display the relevant episode title in the place where it should appear.

And NEPs are just one of those things everyone seems to complain about, but that I doubt almost anyone actually cares to watch when they're on there. Don't get me wrong, they're nice to have, but I really don't think they make or break the set. The completionist in me would prefer to have everything, but practically speaking, it's not important.

Similarly, the OPs/EDs thing is bothersome, they should deal with that, but it's no deal-breaker. Just a small gripe.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Yeah they are pretty damn nice looking quality wise for being based from third generation film masters, i would say were it not for missing the proper elements found with the Dragon Boxes (proper OP/ED, credits, NEP's, Japanese titles) that they would no doubt be the definitive releases.

Honestly, I have a hard time seeing the credits, NEPs, and Japanese titles as a serious issue like so many tend to cite them as...
Like, I would prefer them to have both Japanese and English title cards so when I'm watching in Japanese, I don't have two different episode titles popping up every episode, but I don't really mind. In fact, IMO one solution if multiple angles aren't allowed -- for whatever reason -- would simply be to actually have blank title cards, and have the Japanese sub track or a forced sub track when watching dubbed display the relevant episode title in the place where it should appear.

And NEPs are just one of those things everyone seems to complain about, but that I doubt almost anyone actually cares to watch when they're on there. Don't get me wrong, they're nice to have, but I really don't think they make or break the set. The completionist in me would prefer to have everything, but practically speaking, it's not important.

Similarly, the OPs/EDs thing is bothersome, they should deal with that, but it's no deal-breaker. Just a small gripe.

Then again the section of fans who actually do care about having those elements, with myself included are the ones who went for the Dragon Boxes because of the complete presentation of the Japanese version which is the big draw to those. Yes, they have flaws no doubt like the aged color of the picture and all but i definitely like having it all there which no other FUNimation release aside from the GT singles and Kai to an extent has which is missing the Japanese titles and credits on the openings and endings but includes everything else.

[Robo4900]

Yeah they are pretty damn nice looking quality wise for being based from third generation film masters, i would say were it not for missing the proper elements found with the Dragon Boxes (proper OP/ED, credits, NEP's, Japanese titles) that they would no doubt be the definitive releases.

Honestly, I have a hard time seeing the credits, NEPs, and Japanese titles as a serious issue like so many tend to cite them as...
Like, I would prefer them to have both Japanese and English title cards so when I'm watching in Japanese, I don't have two different episode titles popping up every episode, but I don't really mind. In fact, IMO one solution if multiple angles aren't allowed -- for whatever reason -- would simply be to actually have blank title cards, and have the Japanese sub track or a forced sub track when watching dubbed display the relevant episode title in the place where it should appear.

And NEPs are just one of those things everyone seems to complain about, but that I doubt almost anyone actually cares to watch when they're on there. Don't get me wrong, they're nice to have, but I really don't think they make or break the set. The completionist in me would prefer to have everything, but practically speaking, it's not important.

Similarly, the OPs/EDs thing is bothersome, they should deal with that, but it's no deal-breaker. Just a small gripe.

Then again the section of fans who actually do care about having those elements, with myself included are the ones who went for the Dragon Boxes because of the complete presentation of the Japanese version which is the big draw to those. Yes, they have flaws no doubt like the aged color of the picture and all but i definitely like having it all there which no other FUNimation release aside from the GT singles and Kai to an extent has which is missing the Japanese titles but includes everything else.

I don't think anything close to a significant portion of DBox buyers went for them because of the NEPs and title cards; it was because of the picture quality, the 4:3 presentation...

But the DBoxes sold really poorly anyway.

[ABED]

Even for completionists, I can't imagine NEP/Credit order matters much when deciding whether to buy.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Honestly, I have a hard time seeing the credits, NEPs, and Japanese titles as a serious issue like so many tend to cite them as...
Like, I would prefer them to have both Japanese and English title cards so when I'm watching in Japanese, I don't have two different episode titles popping up every episode, but I don't really mind. In fact, IMO one solution if multiple angles aren't allowed -- for whatever reason -- would simply be to actually have blank title cards, and have the Japanese sub track or a forced sub track when watching dubbed display the relevant episode title in the place where it should appear.

And NEPs are just one of those things everyone seems to complain about, but that I doubt almost anyone actually cares to watch when they're on there. Don't get me wrong, they're nice to have, but I really don't think they make or break the set. The completionist in me would prefer to have everything, but practically speaking, it's not important.

Similarly, the OPs/EDs thing is bothersome, they should deal with that, but it's no deal-breaker. Just a small gripe.

Then again the section of fans who actually do care about having those elements, with myself included are the ones who went for the Dragon Boxes because of the complete presentation of the Japanese version which is the big draw to those. Yes, they have flaws no doubt like the aged color of the picture and all but i definitely like having it all there which no other FUNimation release aside from the GT singles and Kai to an extent has which is missing the Japanese titles but includes everything else.

I don't think anything close to a significant portion of DBox buyers went for them because of the NEPs and title cards; it was because of the picture quality, the 4:3 presentation...

But the DBoxes sold really poorly anyway.

I didn't mean specifically just for those things alone, i meant as in having the show in it's complete form along with the proper aspect ratio which no other FUNi release has before or since (aside from those other two series releases' mentioned) and that is what makes them such an awesome release given it's the only truly complete one at this point. Also was it actually ever confirmed that they did do poor sales wise? Because i can't really find anything that would confirm that to be the case for certain unless there was something i missed.

[ABED]

I don't think anyone has the sales figures or targets, but the DBoxes were always meant to be limited editions. How can anyone say they sold poorly?

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

I don't think anyone has the sales figures or targets, but the DBoxes were always meant to be limited editions. How can anyone say they sold poorly?

I mean, i figured they likely had sold as much as FUNi had expected them to as they were being released given the price they paid to license those good quality 16mm master film prints from Toei. The fact that they've become such holy grail collector's items being charged a butt load of money for on eBay since going out of print i figure is no doubt proof of that demand.

[Robo4900]

I don't think anyone has the sales figures or targets, but the DBoxes were always meant to be limited editions. How can anyone say they sold poorly?

For one thing, the volumes got more limited, and dropped in price more and more as they went on.
I'm pretty sure there was a source that confirmed they sold very poorly a while ago, but I honestly can't remember what it was. In any case, it was of course, a release happening in like 2009, when the DVD singles and Orange Bricks had already happened, and Kai was on the horizon, and HD was the new hotness on home video, and the DBoxes were bloody expensive initially, and as first announced.
Like the Levels, it was a rather poorly-timed release, but unlike the Levels, Funi already had licensed the complete masters, so making as much money as they could was the only option to minimise losses.

[ABED]

I don't think anyone has the sales figures or targets, but the DBoxes were always meant to be limited editions. How can anyone say they sold poorly?

I mean, i figured they likely sold as much as FUNi had expected them to as they were being released given the price they had paid to license those good quality 16mm master prints from Toei. The fact that they've become such holy grail collector's items being charged a butt load of money for on eBay since going out of print i figure is no doubt proof of that demand.

Its price point and how it was marketed as a release for hardcore fans of the original version should be the tip off.

For one thing, the volumes got more limited, and dropped in price more and more as they went on.
I'm pretty sure there was a source that confirmed they sold very poorly a while ago, but I honestly can't remember what it was. In any case, it was of course, a release happening in like 2009, when the DVD singles and Orange Bricks had already happened, and Kai was on the horizon, and HD was the new hotness on home video, and the DBoxes were bloody expensive initially, and as first announced.
Like the Levels, it was a rather poorly-timed release, but unlike the Levels, Funi already had licensed the complete masters, so making as much money as they could was the only option to minimise losses.

All this sounds good, but until you know the numbers of have explicit statements, at best, this rationale is conjecture. The fact that the entire series got released and didn't stop mid series like other lines did (e.g. the singles) is a good sign that they sold enough to make it worth it. No one was expected them to sell like hotcakes. It was a limited release sold to a limited market.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

I don't think anyone has the sales figures or targets, but the DBoxes were always meant to be limited editions. How can anyone say they sold poorly?

I mean, i figured they likely sold as much as FUNi had expected them to as they were being released given the price they had paid to license those good quality 16mm master prints from Toei. The fact that they've become such holy grail collector's items being charged a butt load of money for on eBay since going out of print i figure is no doubt proof of that demand.

Its price point and how it was marketed as a release for hardcore fans of the original version should be the tip off.

For one thing, the volumes got more limited, and dropped in price more and more as they went on.
I'm pretty sure there was a source that confirmed they sold very poorly a while ago, but I honestly can't remember what it was. In any case, it was of course, a release happening in like 2009, when the DVD singles and Orange Bricks had already happened, and Kai was on the horizon, and HD was the new hotness on home video, and the DBoxes were bloody expensive initially, and as first announced.
Like the Levels, it was a rather poorly-timed release, but unlike the Levels, Funi already had licensed the complete masters, so making as much money as they could was the only option to minimise losses.

All this sounds good, but until you know the numbers of have explicit statements, at best, this rationale is conjecture. The fact that the entire series got released and didn't stop mid series like other lines did (e.g. the singles) is a good sign that they sold enough to make it worth it. No one was expected them to sell like hotcakes. It was a limited release sold to a limited market.

Yeah, it was a release for the fans of the Japanese version who wanted to complete presentation of the original version and perhaps also likely those who had watched the show on those crappy quality VHS fansubs back in the days prior to FUNi existing as a company. And perhaps even into the early days of when they were first starting as they acquired the license to the franchise. I figure that they were most likely catering to that sect of the fan base which they had mostly ignored and not acknowledged for so many years prior in regards to their treatment of the series. I can bet other fans still who were dissatisfied with how the Orange Bricks turned out would likely find them to their liking in terms of the picture quality, and the added factor of being in the proper fullscreen aspect ratio.

Of course we don't know and likely still won't know as to exactly how well they sold or not, because obviously that's information i doubt FUNi would ever divulge so we can only speculate as to that point.

[ABED]

I wish there weren't so many versions of the show that it's impossible to reasonably satisfy all or most people with a single release. I'm not even talking about the different dubs, either.

[JohnnyCashKami]

I wish there weren't so many versions of the show that it's impossible to reasonably satisfy all or most people with a single release. I'm not even talking about the different dubs, either.

Too many versions? There's the original 4:3 AR which is what almost every country in the world received and then there's FUNi. FUNimation decided to make their own 16:9 AR version which was terrible.

If I want Dragon Ball Z in 16:9 AR then I'll just watch Kai.

[Vegard Aune]

Honestly, I have a hard time seeing the credits, NEPs, and Japanese titles as a serious issue like so many tend to cite them as...
Like, I would prefer them to have both Japanese and English title cards so when I'm watching in Japanese, I don't have two different episode titles popping up every episode, but I don't really mind. In fact, IMO one solution if multiple angles aren't allowed -- for whatever reason -- would simply be to actually have blank title cards, and have the Japanese sub track or a forced sub track when watching dubbed display the relevant episode title in the place where it should appear.

And NEPs are just one of those things everyone seems to complain about, but that I doubt almost anyone actually cares to watch when they're on there. Don't get me wrong, they're nice to have, but I really don't think they make or break the set. The completionist in me would prefer to have everything, but practically speaking, it's not important.

Similarly, the OPs/EDs thing is bothersome, they should deal with that, but it's no deal-breaker. Just a small gripe.

This is all fair. I don't actually think there are that many people who have a hardline "I refuse to buy these sets if they don't have the kanji credits/JP title cards/previews" stance. Like, if the Level sets had finished their run and remained in print, I'd say the fandom would be in a fairly good place as far as home video releases go. I, for one, think original DB, GT, Kai and Super all have perfectly serviceable home video releases despite them, too, lacking all of that stuff. But I mean, having them in there would still be a plus.

[jaisonas]

I'm sorry but imo the level sets quality is not good. There's too much grain from the film's gen copying to get a good image, especially compared to pic's from Bardock's remaster which was also 16mm film

Spoiler:

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Honestly, I have a hard time seeing the credits, NEPs, and Japanese titles as a serious issue like so many tend to cite them as...
Like, I would prefer them to have both Japanese and English title cards so when I'm watching in Japanese, I don't have two different episode titles popping up every episode, but I don't really mind. In fact, IMO one solution if multiple angles aren't allowed -- for whatever reason -- would simply be to actually have blank title cards, and have the Japanese sub track or a forced sub track when watching dubbed display the relevant episode title in the place where it should appear.

And NEPs are just one of those things everyone seems to complain about, but that I doubt almost anyone actually cares to watch when they're on there. Don't get me wrong, they're nice to have, but I really don't think they make or break the set. The completionist in me would prefer to have everything, but practically speaking, it's not important.

Similarly, the OPs/EDs thing is bothersome, they should deal with that, but it's no deal-breaker. Just a small gripe.

This is all fair. I don't actually think there are that many people who have a hardline "I refuse to buy these sets if they don't have the kanji credits/JP title cards/previews" stance. Like, if the Level sets had finished their run and remained in print, I'd say the fandom would be in a fairly good place as far as home video releases go. I, for one, think original DB, GT, Kai and Super all have perfectly serviceable home video releases despite them, too, lacking all of that stuff. But I mean, having them in there would still be a plus.

Of course as we all know the Levels went belly up leaving the Orange Bricks and later the Season BD's as the only easily purchasable releases, but of course i absolutely refused to waste my money on those garbage quality faux widescreen, DNR smear fests so going to eBay to track down the FUNi Dragon Boxes was my only option to get as good release of the series as possible in the proper aspect ratio. I think that speaks for itself as to how much i care for the series that i am not simply going to just settle for the cheap crappy releases.

[ABED]

I wish there weren't so many versions of the show that it's impossible to reasonably satisfy all or most people with a single release. I'm not even talking about the different dubs, either.

Too many versions? There's the original 4:3 AR which is what almost every country in the world received and then there's FUNi. FUNimation decided to make their own 16:9 AR version which was terrible.

If I want Dragon Ball Z in 16:9 AR then I'll just watch Kai.

There's also the Ocean dub 1-53 episodes. I'm not talking merely about the dub, but the way they are cut. Then of course there are the dubs, which I would now include in this list. There's the ocean dub, in house dub, the remastered version.

[KBABZ]

I wish there weren't so many versions of the show that it's impossible to reasonably satisfy all or most people with a single release. I'm not even talking about the different dubs, either.

Too many versions? There's the original 4:3 AR which is what almost every country in the world received and then there's FUNi. FUNimation decided to make their own 16:9 AR version which was terrible.

If I want Dragon Ball Z in 16:9 AR then I'll just watch Kai.

I think what he means is the sheer amount of releases that DBZ has seen over the years. These include...

1. Pioneer DVDs (99-03)
2. Ultimate Uncut DVDs (05-06)
3. Orange Brick DVDs (07-09)
4. Dragon Box DVDs (09-11)
5. Kai Blu-Rays (10-12)
6. Level Blu-Rays (11)
7. Rock the Dragon DVDs (13)
8. Blu-Brick Blu-Rays (13-14)
9. The Final Chapters Blu-Rays (18)
10. And now the 30th Anniversary set (19)

And all of those come with their own quirks, visual differences, dubs, crops, various rates of completion, and more. From 2005 to 2014 there wasn't a year without a new DBZ DVD set releasing in the US, and from 2009 to 2011, there was MORE THAN ONE DBZ LINE coming out! Compare this to Japan:

1. Dragon Box Z DVDs (03)
2. Individual DVDs (05-07)
3. Dragon Ball Kai Blu-Rays (09-11)
4. The Final Chapters Blu-Rays (14-15)

For Japan, there's so far been only one for DVD and Blu-Ray (with DBox Z being a Collector's release), and no overlap whatsoever, with in fact hearty year gaps between them.

[Scsigs]

Guys, remember that the Level crushing was because of the film prints from the early run. Not only did the crushing become far less pronounced as the set went on as far as it did, but because it was an artifact of the film itself, remember that this is really what the original airing prints would have looked like.
So, while the negatives at Toei would provide a better overall picture, there is something to be said for the Levels as they were presenting a look closer to how the show would have looked if you'd watched one of the TV prints when they were fresh.

Personally, I love the look of the Levels; it's a proper reproduction of what the original film looked like, the picture is sharp as a tack, every detail clear and evident (unlike Kai, which was so soft and blurry, it would often had less detail than the Dragon Boxes), and the gritty texture of the cels, the film, etc. comes through magnificently. It feels like you're watching a show perfectly preserved and rendered from its origins in the late '80s/early '90s, which is how a restoration of this material should feel, especially for a show with a somewhat gritty, grindhouse look to it like Dragon Ball does.
You're not watching some scrubbed, disgusting, soft, faux-digital-looking mess like the HD remaster of Buffy or some of the worse-looking Disney animated classic remasters, you're watching this '80s/'90s show, as it should be seen; with all the grit of the original production on full display, not disguising it behind a shiny sheen that attempts to make it fit in with the overly-clean look of the modern run. Warts and all.

I would prefer to see it remastered from Toei's negatives, particularly since that would allow those 35mm Namek arc episodes to shine in the detail and clarity one would expect from that (Funi only has 16mm of the run of Z), but if they are using the Level masters, that will be more than acceptable.

Yeah. I mean, even on FUNi's other releases, the earlier episodes have always looked bad from the masters they have. Granted, it's nothing they couldn't have worked out if they gave a damn, but I'd still take the levels over most of the other releases. I mean, just look at Star Trek TNG's earliest episodes. Heavy on grain & other minor stuff, even though they used the first-generation film masters for their remasters because the film stock, though well-kept & preserved, was from 1986/87. We'd likely see a similar thing with DB & DBZ as a result, especially since DB's from 1985/86 as well. But, if we're seeing them use the first generation film Toei has in Japan, it'll be even better than the levels.

Honestly, I have a hard time seeing the credits, NEPs, and Japanese titles as a serious issue like so many tend to cite them as...
Like, I would prefer them to have both Japanese and English title cards so when I'm watching in Japanese, I don't have two different episode titles popping up every episode, but I don't really mind. In fact, IMO one solution if multiple angles aren't allowed -- for whatever reason -- would simply be to actually have blank title cards, and have the Japanese sub track or a forced sub track when watching dubbed display the relevant episode title in the place where it should appear.

And NEPs are just one of those things everyone seems to complain about, but that I doubt almost anyone actually cares to watch when they're on there. Don't get me wrong, they're nice to have, but I really don't think they make or break the set. The completionist in me would prefer to have everything, but practically speaking, it's not important.

Similarly, the OPs/EDs thing is bothersome, they should deal with that, but it's no deal-breaker. Just a small gripe.

Agreed. Like, if you really draw the line at having the original Japanese credits, you're not really a complete fan of the series, honestly. It's like, would you rather have the episodes, or would you anally rant at FUNi for not including the Japanese credits in the openings & endings? It's also possible it's due to FUNi's licensing deals, but that gets blurred when Viz licenses from many of the same companies, but keeps the credits intact. I actually prefer when FUNi takes a middle-of-the-road approach & translates the text, since it also allows them to properly credit their own people as well. Since the Japanese animation companies usually have the raw animation without text as well, it's easier to take advantage of that.

Like, I remember MistareFusion's 3rd review on the Dragon Boxes from back in 2011 when talking about the Levels he yelled, "We just got the previews & credits back, why did we lose them again!?!" then went into a whole schpeal about why FUNi not having the credits is a "deal breaker", even though he admitted they seemed pretty good from what he'd seen & heard about them. Then he said some stuff about how the show was always meant to be seen on TVs of the 80s & 90s & how the Dragon Boxes were probably the best the show will ever look. I'm always like, "Bruh, is it really that serious? You mean to tell me that if FUNi were to release a BR set of the shows & movies that perfectly preserved the quality as much as humanly possible, you'd either skip out on them, or bitch, because of the lack of Japanese credits?" Like, I understand wanting a more complete experience when experiencing a piece of media, it's why I advocate for aspect ratios of older products to be retained if they can't or shouldn't be expanded to the full 16:9 ratio, particularly animated works, but if missing the original credits is a deal-breaker, I'd hate to think of what other stupid standards you've set for yourself. Yes, wanting something is great, but you need to gauge the situation realistically. Hell, by all standards, KAI is the "most complete" way to watch the series, since there's credits, the original aspect ratios (TFC's forced cropping notwithstanding), the dub is as accurate as you could want or expect, AND the colors are really good (TFC's green tint notwithstanding) with less of the filler (TFC's leaving in of the Hell scenes notwithstanding).

And then there's him saying the show looks the best it ever could or will in the Dragon Boxes. While it looks GOOD, the coloring is inconsistent or bad not only between the episodes, but the scenes at times, like they were done by separate teams in separate timeframes with no one overseeing them to keep a good amount of consistency between them, just to meet a deadline. The fact that the remasters were also done in the very early 2000s, when they had lesser tech, probably didn't help. Hell, knowing Toei, that's probably exactly what happened seeing how they didn't bother to get Q-Tec to finish Kai to try to save even more money, even though Q-Tec was still clearly working for cheap. Like, if a show being made in a certain era precluded it from being remastered to look better in the modern day was that big of a thing, NOTHING would get remastered & we'd be stuck with terrible masters for the rest of time. If Toei or FUNi could do ANYTHING to make the show look more consistent with itself between episodes & scenes (without botching it up horribly), that'd be great.

I mean, hell, just look at DBZA. They take care to color correct the show as they edit the episodes down & their versions of the scenes look amazing as a result.

I'm sorry but imo the level sets quality is not good. There's too much grain from the film's gen copying to get a good image, especially compared to pic's from Bardock's remaster which was also 16mm film

Spoiler:

Grain is what's used to preserve quality. As I've mentioned already, the earlier episodes of Star Trek TNG had a lot of grain depending on the scene because the film was from 1986/87. Hell, even newer stuff like How I Met Your Mother has grain in some scenes & that series was made at 16:9 1080p (the bar scenes, depending on the angle or shot, have a HEAVY amount of grain in the darker areas of the bar, especially earlier on for that series in particular) from the get-go. Considering they're 3rd generation film masters, where there's a ton of duplication grain on top of the native grain of a show from 1989, I don't think we could've asked for much better.

1. Pioneer DVDs (99-03)
2. Ultimate Uncut DVDs (05-06)
3. Orange Brick DVDs (07-09)
4. Dragon Box DVDs (09-11)
5. Kai Blu-Rays (10-12)
6. Level Blu-Rays (11)
7. Rock the Dragon DVDs (13)
8. Blu-Brick Blu-Rays (13-14)
9. The Final Chapters Blu-Rays (18)
10. And now the 30th Anniversary set (19)

And all of those come with their own quirks, visual differences, dubs, crops, various rates of completion, and more. From 2005 to 2014 there wasn't a year without a new DBZ DVD set releasing in the US, and from 2009 to 2011, there was MORE THAN ONE DBZ LINE coming out! Compare this to Japan:

1. Dragon Box Z DVDs (03)
2. Individual DVDs (05-07)
3. Dragon Ball Kai Blu-Rays (09-11)
4. The Final Chapters Blu-Rays (14-15)

For Japan, there's so far been only one for DVD and Blu-Ray (with DBox Z being a Collector's release), and no overlap whatsoever, with in fact hearty year gaps between them.

Kai TFC's BRs actually came out in 2017 in the US.

[KBABZ]

Kai TFC's BRs actually came out in 2017 in the US.

Well, thanks Google. It wasn't listed on the Kanzenshuu site and I put my trust in you!