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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:40 pm

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ABED wrote:What does a prince sound like?
Purple rain.
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But being serious, I don't think even Horikawa sounds like a prince, whatever that means.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:31 pm

ABED wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
ABED wrote:What does a prince sound like?
Purple rain.
Clever

But being serious, I don't think even Horikawa sounds like a prince, whatever that means.
I’m guessing 8000 Saiyan means that Chris Sabat’s Vegeta isn’t/wasn’t very regal or sophisticated sounding. Frankly, I’m not sure why that should really be a requirement for the character, since being regal is more Freeza’s thing, but I certainly can’t say that Brian Drummond’s Vegeta sounds like that either.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:48 am

ABED wrote:What does a prince sound like?
Oh, I don't know.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by coola » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:51 pm

17 and 18 were NOT weaker in Trunks time line, they hold back against Gohan at first, so they wouldn't kill him too quickly:

During last ight with Gohan
Gohan "I've been training, now it's your turn"
#17 "Our turn? Sorry to say that, during our last fight, i haven't been using even half of my power"
Gohan "What?"
#17 "I wont't let you run away this time, you gonna die"

Trunks might believe they are stronger in this time, since they weren't holding back here, since Goku isn't dead, and they still have their "mission"
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:52 pm

Since a thread that I recently started has had people expressing frustration with dub names for certain techniques and items, I guess I will go ahead and say that I’ve never really had a problem with “Instant Transmission” as a dub name. It’s a reasonably accurate translation of the Japanese name for the technique, and it’s catchy enough.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ripper 30 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:15 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:
gohann wrote:-I don't think Chris Sabat is a terrible actor.
Is that really unpopular?

I'm not sure if this is unpopular or not, but I like Moneca Stori's Videl. Sure, I prefer Kara Edwards, Erika Harlacher and Yuko Minaguchi, but she did fine IMO. And I didn't really mind her using her Kagome voice since she sounds like that all the time.
Toshio Furukawa's wife did an underwhelming Videl in Dragon Ball Kai Final Chapters, Minaguchi is like way better and more charming as Videl.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:17 pm

Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
gohann wrote:-I don't think Chris Sabat is a terrible actor.
Is that really unpopular?

I'm not sure if this is unpopular or not, but I like Moneca Stori's Videl. Sure, I prefer Kara Edwards, Erika Harlacher and Yuko Minaguchi, but she did fine IMO. And I didn't really mind her using her Kagome voice since she sounds like that all the time.
Toshio Furukawa's wife did an underwhelming Videl in Dragon Ball Kai Final Chapters, Minaguchi is like way better and more charming as Videl.
I was talking about Moneca Stori's Videl, not Kakinuma's. I don't even remember what Kakinuma sounded like in the role.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by PFM18 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:38 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Aman wrote: - Super was the worst series for Goku and Vegeta character wise.
It is not an unpopular opinion at all... at least not in Goku's case.

Man, did Super fuck his character up!
His character is identical to other iterations

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:36 pm

I don’t know if this would be an unpopular opinion or not, given that his narration is held in pretty high regard, but I think Brice Armstrong is the best narrator for any English dub of Dragon Ball. Doc Morgan is also good, but he doesn’t quite have that smoothness to his voice.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:28 pm

Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
gohann wrote:-I don't think Chris Sabat is a terrible actor.
Is that really unpopular?

I'm not sure if this is unpopular or not, but I like Moneca Stori's Videl. Sure, I prefer Kara Edwards, Erika Harlacher and Yuko Minaguchi, but she did fine IMO. And I didn't really mind her using her Kagome voice since she sounds like that all the time.
Toshio Furukawa's wife did an underwhelming Videl in Dragon Ball Kai Final Chapters, Minaguchi is like way better and more charming as Videl.
First, its REALLY insulting to refer to people as X Wife, Husband or whatever. She has a name, Kakinuma Shino Second that is not an unpopular opinion.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:55 pm

coola wrote:17 and 18 were NOT weaker in Trunks time line, they hold back against Gohan at first, so they wouldn't kill him too quickly:

During last ight with Gohan
Gohan "I've been training, now it's your turn"
#17 "Our turn? Sorry to say that, during our last fight, i haven't been using even half of my power"
Gohan "What?"
#17 "I wont't let you run away this time, you gonna die"

Trunks might believe they are stronger in this time, since they weren't holding back here, since Goku isn't dead, and they still have their "mission"
You can't take 17 at his word. He thinks he's the strongest and he's not against boasting.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ripper 30 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:32 am

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: Is that really unpopular?

I'm not sure if this is unpopular or not, but I like Moneca Stori's Videl. Sure, I prefer Kara Edwards, Erika Harlacher and Yuko Minaguchi, but she did fine IMO. And I didn't really mind her using her Kagome voice since she sounds like that all the time.
Toshio Furukawa's wife did an underwhelming Videl in Dragon Ball Kai Final Chapters, Minaguchi is like way better and more charming as Videl.
First, its REALLY insulting to refer to people as X Wife, Husband or whatever. She has a name, Kakinuma Shino Second that is not an unpopular opinion.
that's rude on my part. i should have worded it differently, i was gonna make some joke on Piccolo's wife being videl or something like that and got mixed in between. anyway sorry for rude words.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cetra » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:25 am

I hate the new "old" artstyle and how it is sold to us as "wavey and fluffy being better". I liked Dragon Ball the way it looked. What others considered plastic and overly still never was a problem for me. At least the characters were drawn in a way that I liked. And I think the only character who should be drawn softer is Freeza because of the way he is styled and his design only works for me when taking the original manga vols. that he's coming from.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by GT_Goten10 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:20 pm

-Goten(DBS)&Trunks(DBS) are one of the worst characters in the franchise

-Super 17 is the most ridiculous but at the same time the most badass character in the franchise

-Whis,Beerus&Zeno should stay away for ever

-All gods of destruction look crap

-SSJ2 Gohan Vs Cell is overrated

-Jiren looks like one of the incredibles

-I like Gokus Tan in GT&Super(Goku Black)

-Modern DragonBall has absolutely no creativity
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Pantalones » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:44 pm

17 and 18 were NOT weaker in Trunks time line, they hold back against Gohan at first, so they wouldn't kill him too quickly:

During last ight with Gohan
Gohan "I've been training, now it's your turn"
#17 "Our turn? Sorry to say that, during our last fight, i haven't been using even half of my power"
Gohan "What?"
#17 "I wont't let you run away this time, you gonna die"

Trunks might believe they are stronger in this time, since they weren't holding back here, since Goku isn't dead, and they still have their "mission"
I don't see why it couldn't just be both -- future Androids were holding back on Gohan (and later Trunks), AND they were weaker than the present Androids.

Future Gohan and Trunks were way, way weaker than Android Saga SSj Goku and Vegeta, after all... and the present Android 18 still held back on Vegeta (and destroyed him in no time when she finally stopped holding back; sure Vegeta was worn down by that point, but I have no doubt she could've crushed him even at full health based on how quickly the Androids could take out Trunks and Piccolo.)
Since a thread that I recently started has had people expressing frustration with dub names for certain techniques and items, I guess I will go ahead and say that I’ve never really had a problem with “Instant Transmission” as a dub name. It’s a reasonably accurate translation of the Japanese name for the technique, and it’s catchy enough.
Same here. While a few of the dub names do bug me (to me, Special Beam Cannon is the worst offender... just sounds seriously dumb), things like Instant Transmission, Solar Flare, Spirit Bomb, etc. work just fine as "not quite a literal translation, but still gets the same point across" names for those techniques.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ricky84 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:45 pm

Noah wrote:
Aman wrote:- Super was all round garbage and if it weren't for nostalgia and DB's success, it would have flopped.
- The Goku-Vegeta rivalry is overrated, Naruto-Sasuke, Deku-Bakugo-Shoto are far better.
- Super was the worst series for Goku and Vegeta character wise.
- That isn't exactly unpopular, also if weren't for DB sucess, Super would not even exist.

- It is indeed a one-sided rivalry as Goku never saw Vegeta the same way, but I blame Super on forcing that way more than Z to the point it was unbearable to watch scene of them together.

- Also not unpopular, Goku was more mature in the Boo arc, hell even Kid Goku from GT had more maturity, Super Goku is god damn annoying. Vegeta regressed to his past Cell arc self, always grumpy and rude at people for no reason, in the Boo arc he had great development but Super trashed that.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:It is not an unpopular opinion at all... at least not in Goku's case.

Man, did Super fuck his character up!
Super fuck them both.
A rivalry doesn't have to be an equal one to work. Many of the most famous in fiction are one-sided.

How the hell is Vegeta regressed? That doesn't make any sense. Vegeta in Super doesn't do nor say anything like his Cell saga version. He doesn't treat his family and friends like shit in Super like he did in most of Z nor does he do shit like help out an enemy just for his ego and his relationship with Cabba would have never happened in before the second half of the Buu arc. Nor would most of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0mSW30-uq4

And where the hell is he angry and rude at people all the time in Super? He wasn't particularity friendly in GT neither, its not his character.

And the complaints about DBS Goku are nostalgia driven double standards. Goku was ALWAYS an goofy manchild for much of the time in the original series and more so in GT. He was barely serious for most of the Buu saga (his carelessness is what dragged out the arc) and was even more childish in GT than he was in Early DB .
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ricky84 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:01 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Aman wrote:- Super was all round garbage and if it weren't for nostalgia and DB's success, it would have flopped.

- The Goku-Vegeta rivalry is overrated, Naruto-Sasuke, Deku-Bakugo-Shoto are far better.

- Super was the worst series for Goku and Vegeta character wise.

-SSB and SSG are by far the worst and weakest transformations of the entire series. Even as a big Gohan fan, I don't care if he gets it or not. IMO mystic is better, even though it's far weaker.
Agreed on all of these tbh.

Going off that I'd like to add one of my own. The Goku-Piccolo rivalry was better than the Goku-Vegeta rivalry.
The Goku-Piccolo rivalry was never a rivalry in the first place. Piccolo merely wanted revenge against Goku for killing his dad and once he did that against Raditz, the beef between them was over.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ricky84 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:04 pm

PsionicWarrior wrote:wow, everytime I read here I'm relieved this is the unpopular opinions thread lol :mrgreen:
Explain?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ricky84 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:24 pm

- Early DB (Vol. 1-16) is highly overrated, not better than Z at all
- Most of the complaints about DBS Goku are nostalgia driven double standards
- Future Trunks is the franchise's greatest character, next to Vegeta
- Broly is nowhere near as bad of a character as the haters think and I'm glad he's back
- The DBS anime believe it or not actually had somewhat more substance than the other 3 series
- Goku Black and Zamasu are the greatest DB villains ever
- Gohan vs Cell is the most overrated fight (not bad though)
- Super 17 is the worst main villain
- UI Omen is the best transformation
- The DBS Manga is the worst series in the franchise
- Caulifla and Kale are better characters than 90% of the franchise cast
- The Black Star saga (GT) is the worst arc in the franchise
- DB Multiverse is overrated
- There wasn't any regression with DBS Vegeta at all. People are overreacting about him.
- The Android/Cell arc is the worst arc in DB(Z).
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kudo6000 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:00 pm

ricky84 wrote:Goku Black and Zamasu are the greatest DB villains ever
That's not unpopular, really.

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