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by TheGmGoken » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:32 pm
RandomGuy96 wrote:Not even gonna list the form of Buu, are you? I suppose it doesn't really matter. Tullece and Slug, as well as their men, have no real useful special abilities, while absorbing the Ginyus gives Buu paralysis, the ability to stop time, and body switching. Ginyu-Buu wins.
I was thinking of Super Boo
It's fun thinking of Boo fusions what if
Super Boo(Babidi and Dende eaten) vs Fat Boo(Grand Elder and Moori eaten)
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:50 am
goku the krump dancer wrote:TheMightyOzaru wrote:Ginyu Buu. He can stop time
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And since he doesn't need oxygen to survive he could literally hold his breath forever and time would be stopped for eternity and thats fucking scary.
Gurd stopping time by holding his breath is anime-only. In the manga, he can do it it by consuming ki for a limited time.
But then again, Boo has infinite ki, so he should still be able to freeze time for as much as he wants.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:45 am
If Buu had unlimited Ki, he would be invincible. He has unlimited stamina.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:00 pm
TheMightyOzaru wrote:If Buu had unlimited Ki, he would be invincible. He has unlimited stamina.
The cyborgs had unlimited Ki. They was NOT unbeatable.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:10 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:TheMightyOzaru wrote:If Buu had unlimited Ki, he would be invincible. He has unlimited stamina.
The cyborgs had unlimited Ki. They was NOT unbeatable.
They had infinite energy reactors which replenished ki when some was used up. They still have a limit to how much power they can produce.
Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:12 pm
BBy infinite ki, I don't mean he can produce as much as he wants, I mean that it never ends.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:20 pm
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:BBy infinite ki, I don't mean he can produce as much as he wants, I mean that it never ends.
Who is BBY?
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:26 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:BBy infinite ki, I don't mean he can produce as much as he wants, I mean that it never ends.
Who is BBY?
Before the Battle of Yavin.James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:28 pm
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:BBy infinite ki, I don't mean he can produce as much as he wants, I mean that it never ends.
Who is BBY?
Before the Battle of Yavin.
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by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:04 pm
Cell(GT Goku Absorbed) vs Syn Shneron(Note Cell does that get to go over his limit like Goku did)
Super 16 vs GT. How far does he goes since 16 > 17
Arm wrestling contest.
LSSJ Broly vs USSJ Trnks vs USSJ Vegeta vs USSJ Goku vs 100 % Freeza
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by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:50 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:Cell(GT Goku Absorbed) vs Syn Shneron(Note Cell does that get to go over his limit like Goku did)
Super 16 vs GT. How far does he goes since 16 > 17
Arm wrestling contest.
LSSJ Broly vs USSJ Trnks vs USSJ Vegeta vs USSJ Goku vs 100 % Freeza
1. Yi Xing Long
2. Super 16 beats Yi Xing Long, but gets totally massacred by Super Yi Xing Long.
3. LSSJ Broly rips everyone's arms with his one arm.
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by Kakashi » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:25 pm
SSjin 2 Goku's On SSjin 2 Kid Gohan, SSjin 2 Vegeta, SPC
How big is the gap and can Goku take on them at once
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by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:28 pm
SSJ2 Goku would get slaughtered. He's not that much stronger than Gohan and Cell so both of them teaming Goku wouldn't end well.
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by RandomGuy96 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:30 pm
Any team-up of them could smash Goku. He's not much stronger than them, given that Piccolo couldn't even tell the difference between the power of SS2 Majin Vegeta and SS2 kid Gohan at first.
The Monkey King wrote:RandomGuy96 wrote:dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:33 pm
Kakashi wrote:SSjin 2 Goku's On SSjin 2 Kid Gohan, SSjin 2 Vegeta, SPC
How big is the gap and can Goku take on them at once
Wasn't this asked about 1 - 5 pages ago?
It's official. We've run out of in universe debates and are just repeating. More what if(s) then(Btw Goku would get murder. Kid Gohan is still in Boo Arc Goku's power range.).
Fat Boo(Bulma eaten) vs Good Boo(Chi Chi eaten)
Chazlinn(Cell + Chazou) vs Cellajoribe(Cell and Yajoribe)
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by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:37 pm
1. Bulma Buu
2. Chaozu Cell.
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by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:41 pm
TheMightyOzaru wrote:1. Bulma Buu
2. Chaozu Cell.
Wait Bulma Boo wins? Explain yourself please. I know Fat boo is stronger than Good Boo. But should't Chi Chi even the odds. I mean Bulma has to be around the average power level
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by rereboy » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:16 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:TheMightyOzaru wrote:1. Bulma Buu
2. Chaozu Cell.
Wait Bulma Boo wins? Explain yourself please. I know Fat boo is stronger than Good Boo. But should't Chi Chi even the odds. I mean Bulma has to be around the average power level
Good Buu is only has the minority of Fat Buu's Power. The majority went to Grey Buu. So, there's quite a difference between Good Buu and Fat Buu. Bulma or ChiChi are irrelevant.
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by Cursed Lemon » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:39 pm
RandomGuy96 wrote:Any team-up of them could smash Goku. He's not much stronger than them, given that Piccolo couldn't even tell the difference between the power of SS2 Majin Vegeta and SS2 kid Gohan at first.
Well now, Cell wouldn't be in the same league as any of the other three.
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by RandomGuy96 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:43 pm
Cursed Lemon wrote:RandomGuy96 wrote:Any team-up of them could smash Goku. He's not much stronger than them, given that Piccolo couldn't even tell the difference between the power of SS2 Majin Vegeta and SS2 kid Gohan at first.
Well now, Cell wouldn't be in the same league as any of the other three.
Cell is somewhere in the same general tier as Gohan. I think he's actually stronger than pre-Majin Vegeta.
The Monkey King wrote:RandomGuy96 wrote:dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
