The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:16 am

Kid Buu wrote:Wasn't he shown as SSJ when he dies in HoT?
I think that's anime only.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:36 am

Yeah, we really have no idea if Vegeta reached Super Saiyan in the future. All we know is #17 thrashed him rather easily during their battle in the future, which was shown in the Anime.

Still, for this battle, I'd give him the victory. I'm sure a fresh Super Saiyan Vegeta would likely be more powerful than Super Saiyan Goku was on namek.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:27 am

I'd be really surprised if Vegeta didn't try to go Super after watching Goku stomp Freeza and Kold down.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:37 am

Rocketman wrote:I'd be really surprised if Vegeta didn't try to go Super after watching Goku stomp Freeza and Kold down.
I still wish we could have seen that fight.
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Enraged SSJ Vegeta (Bulma Slapped) Vs. SSJ3 Goku

Post by cesarcoronel07 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:38 pm

Ok in Battle of Gods Vegeta SSJ surpassed Goku as a SSJ3, if these 2 fight, with Vegeta being enraged, who would win?
P.S I thought Vegeta was going to become SSJ3 but sadly he didn't :cry:
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Re: Enraged SSJ Vegeta (Bulma Slapped) Vs. SSJ3 Goku

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:40 pm

cesarcoronel07 wrote:Ok in Battle of Gods Vegeta SSJ surpassed Goku as a SSJ3, if these 2 fight, with Vegeta being enraged, who would win?
P.S I thought Vegeta was going to become SSJ3 but sadly he didn't :cry:
Would have made more sense if he did go SSJ3.

Anyways he would lose. The boost was so short that he would hurt Goku, but not be able to put him down in time. So Goku still wins.
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Goku and Chichi Vs. Gohan and Videl

Post by cesarcoronel07 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:45 pm

If this happened it could have taken place after Kid Buu's defeat. So which couple do you guys think would win?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:49 pm

Yeah, that's how I figure it too. Vegeta's anger let him force his power up to levels that surpassed Goku, but only for a fleeting moment, and it burned up all his power in the process. Unless "stronger than Goku" meant something like ten times stronger, then Vegeta's not going to be able to finish off Goku in so short a time.
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Re: Goku and Chichi Vs. Gohan and Videl

Post by Kaboom » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:51 pm

For the record, we have a dedicated "Versus" thread for these sort of one-off "character against character" match-ups. I just merged your Goku VS Vegeta matchup thread with it already, but I'll give this one a few minutes so you can see this reply first.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:15 pm

I think the burst would be enough to kill Goku.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:42 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:I think the burst would be enough to kill Goku.
I agree but then I have Vegeta >> Gohan there.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:44 pm

SSJ4 Goku vs Nuova Shenlong (No Interruptions)

I think if Nuova doesn't get tricked by Goku again like he was underground, he'd probably win. He seemed to dominate Goku at hand to hand fighting as he was faster. Unless I'm missing something?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:50 pm

Nuova beats Goku until he reverts to Base Form, then Kid Goku one-shots him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:53 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:SSJ4 Goku vs Nuova Shenlong (No Interruptions)

I think if Nuova doesn't get tricked by Goku again like he was underground, he'd probably win. He seemed to dominate Goku at hand to hand fighting as he was faster. Unless I'm missing something?
Well Kid Boo already made the joke so now I can't do it. But Goku could just go beyond his limits like he did with Syn. Wait nevermind that required energy from the others. So yes Nuova wins this fight. Unless GOku does DragonFist.
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Re: Goku and Chichi Vs. Gohan and Videl

Post by Godo » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:54 pm

cesarcoronel07 wrote:If this happened it could have taken place after Kid Buu's defeat. So which couple do you guys think would win?
Gohan would defeat Goku easily, whereas Chi Chi would defeat Videl easily (although I would see Gohan jump in between them, since he wouldn't want to see his mom or girlfriend get hurt).
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:05 pm

For the couple question it depends on if Goku has his SSJ God powers and in what time period the fight takes place. If it's Pre-Ultimate Gohan, then Goku beats Gohan easily and Chi Chi beats Videl easily. If it's Post-Ultimate Gohan, then Gohan beats the shit out of Goku and Chi Chi still beats Videl (Gohan wrecks Chi Chi and wins for his team). If it's Post-SSJ God, then Goku annihilates Gohan and Chi Chi STILL beats Videl.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:12 pm

I can picture Chi Chi making Goku's team win. As I don't think GOhan would hit Chi Chi and Chi Chi and always use her Mom powers and send Gohan to his room
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:23 pm

I don't think Gohan would hit his mother, so Goku and Chichi take this.

Goten & Kid Trunks Vs. Cell after he absorbed Android #17.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:26 pm

Kid Buu wrote:I don't think Gohan would hit his mother, so Goku and Chichi take this.

Goten & Kid Trunks Vs. Cell after he absorbed Android #17.
Goten & Trunks.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:28 pm

Kid Buu wrote:I don't think Gohan would hit his mother, so Goku and Chichi take this.

Goten & Kid Trunks Vs. Cell after he absorbed Android #17.
Goten and Trunks. They're naturally strong.


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