I wouldn't take those numbers to heart if I were you. Just seems like another one of those things that Toriyama made up on the spot. There will probably be an occasion in the movie that somehow contradicts those numbers to a certain extent.Bullza wrote:I was wondering if they'd make Freeza stronger than Beerus. Usually you'd expect the next villain to be the strongest yet but the last movie was different in that Beerus never lost.
Maybe they'll up the ante by making Freeza stronger than what Beerus fought at in the last movie but not as strong as him at full power so it'd be like...
Whis - 15
Beerus - 10
Freeza - 8
Goku may have risen from a 6 to a 7.5 by training with Whis. Maybe Vegeta will be an 8.5 if he wins in this one.
Perhaps we'll get a Beerus rematch in the next film.
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So Gohan, Trunks and Goten can reach SSJG level, really? I though was only pure Saiyans not half-breedsfadeddreams5 wrote:Any pure-hearted saiyan can achieve SSJG through the same ritual as Goku. However, only the talented few will be able to absorb that power into themselves after it wears out. I base that on absolutely nothing.
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Except that Toriyama has recently begun to use some of those ideas he came up with on the spot.
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It's never implied that only full-blooded saiyans can achieve it. After all, the half-breeds (including an unborn fetus) participated in the ritual to give Goku the power in the first place.Kakarot9001 wrote:So Gohan, Trunks and Goten can reach SSJG level, really? I though was only pure Saiyans not half-breedsfadeddreams5 wrote:Any pure-hearted saiyan can achieve SSJG through the same ritual as Goku. However, only the talented few will be able to absorb that power into themselves after it wears out. I base that on absolutely nothing.
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Actually you're basing that on Battle of Gods.fadeddreams5 wrote:Any pure-hearted saiyan can achieve SSJG through the same ritual as Goku. However, only the talented few will be able to absorb that power into themselves after it wears out.
I base that on absolutely nothing.
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Have you not watched Battle of Gods? All of them were part of the ritual to give Super Saiyan God to Goku, which needed 6 pure Saiyans. It's pure of heart, not pure in that sense.Kakarot9001 wrote:So Gohan, Trunks and Goten can reach SSJG level, really? I though was only pure Saiyans not half-breedsfadeddreams5 wrote:Any pure-hearted saiyan can achieve SSJG through the same ritual as Goku. However, only the talented few will be able to absorb that power into themselves after it wears out. I base that on absolutely nothing.
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Nothing has been stated officially, but I would assume that the Half-Saiyans ability to contribute energy to make someone else a Super Saiyan God, would also mean they're capable of being given the form themselves.
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I dunno about that Beerus was said to have fought at 70% his full power in the movie which would be a 7 and he was stronger than Goku who is a 6. The movie does match up with that at least.Doctor. wrote:I wouldn't take those numbers to heart if I were you. Just seems like another one of those things that Toriyama made up on the spot. There will probably be an occasion in the movie that somehow contradicts those numbers to a certain extent.Bullza wrote:I was wondering if they'd make Freeza stronger than Beerus. Usually you'd expect the next villain to be the strongest yet but the last movie was different in that Beerus never lost.
Maybe they'll up the ante by making Freeza stronger than what Beerus fought at in the last movie but not as strong as him at full power so it'd be like...
Whis - 15
Beerus - 10
Freeza - 8
Goku may have risen from a 6 to a 7.5 by training with Whis. Maybe Vegeta will be an 8.5 if he wins in this one.
Perhaps we'll get a Beerus rematch in the next film.
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If Pan is a prodigy. Bra isn't really special so maybe Pan might not be....plus she has Gohan and Mr. Satan genes in her, so she's bound to be brushed aside cause of that. Also lacks G-O-K-U in her name.Doctor. wrote:Well yeah it is. As far as we know, all the Saiyans can get SSJG. Even Pan. Unless there's another thing about the transformation that we don't know about.
Because then we don't have someone going "Ooooo what power, incredible." Cheerleaders gotta come from somewhere, and unfortunately it demeans the ones who were turned useless.TheGmGoken wrote:Why do the other characters even fight anymore? Anytime it's a new threat just call Vegeta or Goku. Just seem pointless fighting a losing battle unless you're holding them off. We probably going to get a scene where someone attacks Freeza and we get the classic smoke scene. "GUYS! I did it! I beat Freeza!". Only to show that Freeza wasn't hurt and everyone forgot how to sense ki.
Considering how the next generation are super prodigies who grow in power faster than Goku and master abilities faster than he does, they shouldn't have a problem logically. Goku takes 7 years for SSJ3, Gotenks does it in a week.fadeddreams5 wrote:Any pure-hearted saiyan can achieve SSJG through the same ritual as Goku. However, only the talented few will be able to absorb that power into themselves after it wears out.
I base that on absolutely nothing.
If half breeds can contribute to forming SSJ God, then there's no reason why they can't assume the form either.Kakarot9001 wrote:So Gohan, Trunks and Goten can reach SSJG level, really? I though was only pure Saiyans not half-breedsfadeddreams5 wrote:Any pure-hearted saiyan can achieve SSJG through the same ritual as Goku. However, only the talented few will be able to absorb that power into themselves after it wears out. I base that on absolutely nothing.
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I would like one of the rules about SSJG to be: Only full-blooded saiyans can become one.
Any saiyan can join the ritual, but the one who will become a God must be a full-blooded saiyan. The ones that are directly connected to the race and born in Planet Vegeta.
Nothing would be more stupid that Gohan, Goten and Trunks get SSJG. I still don't even know for sure if I like the idea of Vegeta becoming one.
Super Saiyan God should be the representative of their race. One of a kind, not everyone.
I guess I would like the idea of Vegeta become one if we got SSJG Gogeta in the future. But Goku is the main star, he should have something of his own.
Any saiyan can join the ritual, but the one who will become a God must be a full-blooded saiyan. The ones that are directly connected to the race and born in Planet Vegeta.
Nothing would be more stupid that Gohan, Goten and Trunks get SSJG. I still don't even know for sure if I like the idea of Vegeta becoming one.
Super Saiyan God should be the representative of their race. One of a kind, not everyone.
I guess I would like the idea of Vegeta become one if we got SSJG Gogeta in the future. But Goku is the main star, he should have something of his own.
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I hope they do the ritual on Pan in this movie, so she can take out Frieza.
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That doesn't matter, I mean... Goku was the center of the ritual if he changed place with Kid Trunks, Trunks would become a God? It seems a little pointlessDoctor. wrote:Have you not watched Battle of Gods? All of them were part of the ritual to give Super Saiyan God to Goku, which needed 6 pure Saiyans. It's pure of heart, not pure in that sense.
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Goku does have something own it's own. Genki Dama and Kaioken. Goku has lots of attacks that only he knows. His main star status ain't affected trust me. Gohan, Goten/Trunks, and Oob tried to take his place. It ain't happening.FortuneSSJ wrote:I would like one of the rules about SSJG to be: Only full-blooded saiyans can become one.
Any saiyan can join the ritual, but the one who will become a God must be a full-blooded saiyan.
Nothing would be more stupid that Gohan, Goten and Trunks get SSJG. I still don't even know for sure if I like the idea of Vegeta becoming one.
Super Saiyan God should be the representative of their race. One of a kind, not everyone.
I guess I would like the idea of Vegeta become one if we got SSJG Gogeta in the future. But Goku is the main star, he should have something of his own.
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I second this. What I'm asks waiting on.Beerus-sama wrote:- BeerusSuper Saiyan Swagger wrote:I'd like to ask to the people of this thread, what are you anticipating the most out of this movie? I'm looking forward to seeing Goku and Vegeta training with Whis.
-Vegeta and Goku's interactions with eachother and with Beerus and Whis
-Bulma's role in the movie.
Gokû and Vegeta barely interacted in BOG, but when they did it was wonderful. X3
Just the idea of them as classmates (or even roommates if they're living on Beerus' planet while they train) screams of entertainment potential.
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Didn't even think to mention it but, if this movie does turn out to be 'The Vegeta Movie' as some have predicted...I'm actually kind of excited for that. I mean, I'm not a fan of Vegeta normally, by any means, but this is a post-BOG Vegeta. And seeing as how he finally came to a place where I could like him in that movie, I'm excited to hopefully see more of that new Vegeta here.
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Vegeta needed this treatment, for all we saw since the beginning of Buu saga, counting all Buu saga movies he appeared (though it were only 12, 13 and 14. Lol.). He needs and deserves to shine for once at least. 
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From Buu arc until now, he already shone 3 times:Dyno wrote:Vegeta needed this treatment, for all we saw since the beginning of Buu saga, counting all Buu saga movies he appeared (though it were only 12, 13 and 14. Lol.). He needs and deserves to shine for once at least.
- His sacrifice against Majin Buu
- His respect for Goku
- Puts a better fight against Beerus than ssj3 Goku
He became such a cool guy to the point everyone claps him in BOG.
You meant kill a main villain for once?! That yes, still didn't happen.
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Isn't post Majin Vegeta and BoG Vegeta the same in personality though? BoG Vegeta just had a lil' bit of more character development, but their personality is pretty much the same.Gyt Kaliba wrote:Didn't even think to mention it but, if this movie does turn out to be 'The Vegeta Movie' as some have predicted...I'm actually kind of excited for that. I mean, I'm not a fan of Vegeta normally, by any means, but this is a post-BOG Vegeta. And seeing as how he finally came to a place where I could like him in that movie, I'm excited to hopefully see more of that new Vegeta here.
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Y'know, I can't help but wonder what sort of potential this movie would've had if Sorbet and Tagoma had chosen to revive King Cold. We got so little of him, I'd imagine there's a lot more freedom for exploring and expanding on his character. Who knows what crazy transformations they could've come up with for him.
But on the movie at hand, I really hope that Freeza has an actual plan this time, rather than just train and then launch an all-out assault on Earth. Who knows, maybe he collects the Dragon Balls again and revives his father.
But on the movie at hand, I really hope that Freeza has an actual plan this time, rather than just train and then launch an all-out assault on Earth. Who knows, maybe he collects the Dragon Balls again and revives his father.
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Since we are talking about Freeza, it would be satisfatory to see Vegeta just standing up while Freeza is lying down, kind of what happened when Freeza cut himself. That would be enough for us, and for Vegeta himself.FortuneSSJ wrote:From Buu arc until now, he already shone 3 times:
- His sacrifice against Majin Buu
- His respect for Goku
- Puts a better fight against Beerus than ssj3 Goku
You meant kill a main villain for once?! That yes, still didn't happen.
And I must say... If Freeza dies, then this could turn out to be the most pointless movie of all. Even more than the movies of that "thing"...









