Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[Bullza]

Damn. I'm kinda shocked about the lack of presence of Naruto has in Japan.

Yeah I didn't see all that much but when I went last year there was. There were big posters for advertising the Boruto movie and also the Naruto Exhibit at Roppongi.

Didn't see much see this time, I saw a few posters advertising the new Boruto manga though.

But otherwise from the shops I went in and the merchandise I saw it was mainly One Piece stuff, Dragon Ball stuff and those school girl/magical girl stuff.

I saw Dragon Ball clothing, I heard the Head Cha La song outside a clothes shop. There's those little machines you put money in and you get a little figure from it, again I saw One Piece and Dragon Ball ones that's it.

Last year I saw Yokai Watch everywhere, that red cat thing was everywhere. Hardly saw anything of it this year.

[DragonHermit]

Meh could never get into Naruto myself. Watched 20-30 episodes before giving up. DB was the OG "young goofy kid turns into a warrior" shonen, OP had amazing worldbuilding and attention to detail. Just never saw a niche for Naruto. It was sort of just a poorer version of these existing shows.

[Bullza]

Naruto doesn't even get going until about mid way through the Forest of Death bit. Then with all the Preliminary matches and the Tournament matches was when I started to like it.

The Land of Waves saga was pretty boring and was more of a standalone saga.

[Faisal Shourov]

I think Pokemon out beats DB with anime popularity worldwide. Dragon Ball may be a hot seller overseas, but One Piece still out sells it over in Japan.

In recognition, yes. In popularity, nope. Dragon Ball's fanbase attracts from kids to adults, very diverse like One Piece. Pokemon's anime primarily attracts kids upto 12. The games are very hot though, Pokemon games are still rocking.

Both pokemon and DBZ are more famous than the term anime itself. I know plenty of people who know Goku and DBZ but never watched a single anime, or don't even know what anime is. Same for pokemon and pikachu

[Araki]

I think Pokemon out beats DB with anime popularity worldwide. Dragon Ball may be a hot seller overseas, but One Piece still out sells it over in Japan.

In recognition, yes. In popularity, nope. Dragon Ball's fanbase attracts from kids to adults, very diverse like One Piece. Pokemon's anime primarily attracts kids upto 12. The games are very hot though, Pokemon games are still rocking.

Both pokemon and DBZ are more famous than the term anime itself. I know plenty of people who know Goku and DBZ but never watched a single anime, or don't even know what anime is. Same for pokemon and pikachu

Yeah, i think with Pokemon, there's a huge popularity gap between the games and the anime that we should have in mind. The games outsell pretty much everything out there, but the anime had a quick popularity peak, worldwide, as it doesn't have the same appeal. In Japan it lasted longer, but the anime isn't more popular than Dragon Ball there either, as we can see by ratings and recent box office.

[Kuririn Fan]

Dragon Ball may be a hot seller overseas, but One Piece still out sells it over in Japan.

We all know that, there's no need to go to Japan to be 100% sure, the numbers say it all. I just think that the world is a little bit bigger market that Japan.
And Dragon Ball in its prime was responsible for the Golden Age of Jump.

[Bullza]

The Pokémon anime at it's peak is something that I don't think any anime will ever rival again. Look how much the Pokemon First Movie made in US, even the second one made a good chunk of money.

That said the series was a fad, it showed up in force and then after a few years it really went quiet. It still airs now but you don't really hear about it.

On the other hand DBZ maintained it's popularity very well despite it finishing years ago. It's definitely more popular than it now. In fact it's likely the most popular DBZ has ever been.

[kinisking]

It's strange that one piece is huge in japan, but extremely dead here in the states. I don't think I've ever heard someone talk about it while I've heard a lot of people talk about dragonball and naruto.

[Nejishiki]

According to most One Piece fans, it's first censored run gave the series a negative portrayal which it never recovered from once it came back. I'm not sure how accurate that is though.

[Chuquita]

It's a combination of 4Kids run, the cartoony art style, and it being a slow burn of a show. Things don't really get moving imo until the Arlong arc and waiting that long causes a drop off.

Also, ninja are more exotic/exciting to kids in the U.S than pirates are, imo.

[Bullza]

I do think it has gotten a lot more popular over the years outside of Japan. I became a fan in 2008 and at the time it was largely unheard of, I remember there was only one One Piece video on YouTube that had more than 1 more million views.

Now there's 22 pages worth of One Piece videos that have over 1 million views. They make more of the games now and bring more of them out outside Japan.

It's got an enormous niche fanbase, just not a mainstream one. It's way bigger than Bleach now.

It could have taken advantage of how popular Pirates of the Caribbean was at the time but the dub it had killed it.

[Theophrastus]

As shitty as the 4Kids dub was, I feel reasonably confident that One Piece completely disappearing from the airwaves in the US from 2008-2013 was much more damaging to its popularity here than the initial bad dub. Kinda hard to develop a fandom when one of the main means of mainstream exposure is cut off.

[Greninja22]

I dont know about the U.S, but One Piece is very popular in Europe, specially in France and Germany. it was the best selling manga for the past few years in France. More popular than Naruto/Bleach/DBZ

http://www.lefigaro.fr/bd/2016/01/18/03 ... ct_premium

[Kuririn Fan]

I dont know about the U.S, but One Piece is very popular in Europe, specially in France and Germany. it was the best selling manga for the past few years in France. More popular than Naruto/Bleach/DBZ

http://www.lefigaro.fr/bd/2016/01/18/03 ... ct_premium

Dragon Ball Manga ended 21 years ago.

[DragonHermit]

I dont know about the U.S, but One Piece is very popular in Europe, specially in France and Germany. it was the best selling manga for the past few years in France. More popular than Naruto/Bleach/DBZ

http://www.lefigaro.fr/bd/2016/01/18/03 ... ct_premium

Dragon Ball Manga ended 21 years ago.

If they added some loud Faulconer music to One Piece in US it wouldve been a hit.

[Kuririn Fan]

I dont know about the U.S, but One Piece is very popular in Europe, specially in France and Germany. it was the best selling manga for the past few years in France. More popular than Naruto/Bleach/DBZ

http://www.lefigaro.fr/bd/2016/01/18/03 ... ct_premium

Dragon Ball Manga ended 21 years ago.

Like exactly 21 years, May 23rd 1995.

[Greninja22]

I dont know about the U.S, but One Piece is very popular in Europe, specially in France and Germany. it was the best selling manga for the past few years in France. More popular than Naruto/Bleach/DBZ

http://www.lefigaro.fr/bd/2016/01/18/03 ... ct_premium

Dragon Ball Manga ended 21 years ago.

I'm sorry, I did not make myself clear. Currently its more popular than DBZ with the younger audiences and it has been breaking records there. Thats what I heard from my French friend, I can't say myself because I'm not from there.


Lets not forget if not for DBZ, One Piece would not exist today

[Xeztin]

I just actually finished the Naruto manga about 3 days ago. I've got to say I love the series but I can see how it's not as popular after its end because there's not much left to be wanted. It's not like Dragon Ball where you had those SSJ 5 drawings floating around after the end of GT, I mean where would you go? Ultimate 9 tails mode? Where would you go with the villains? Revive Madara again? The anime dragging out isn't helping though I am enjoying the current backstory. As for One Piece, I like it too and I'm surprised it's not a religion over there! Hunter X Hunter is what I'm curious about, I heard the dub has been doing good on Toonami, hopefully the anime fires back up in Japan too.

[Psykomatik]

I dont know about the U.S, but One Piece is very popular in Europe, specially in France and Germany. it was the best selling manga for the past few years in France. More popular than Naruto/Bleach/DBZ

http://www.lefigaro.fr/bd/2016/01/18/03 ... ct_premium

Dragon Ball Manga ended 21 years ago.

I'm sorry, I did not make myself clear. Currently its more popular than DBZ with the younger audiences and it has been breaking records there. Thats what I heard from my French friend, I can't say myself because I'm not from there.

That ain't true. DBZ is way, way, wayyyyy more popular than One Piece, here in Saint-Denis (a city near Paris). There's people who don't even know what is One Piece...
DBZ, when it was airing on Direct Star in French, broke records: http://www.animeland.com/2012/03/22/rec ... -pour-dbz/
While One Piece is doing terrible ratings on the same channel... the tv show has been cancelled 4 months ago: http://www.toutelatele.com/d17-deprogra ... ence-64371

[Bullza]

Where would you go with the villains? Revive Madara again?

Well they've been having the villains in the new movies be members of the same clan as Kaguya which if I'm not mistaken (I haven't seen the Boruto movie) are actually beings from another world.

So basically they could pull a Dragon Ball and have aliens as villains.

I don't see it happening though.