Dragon Ball Z Being Re-edited and Re-dubbed for HDTV

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:12 am

There are too many times when you're trying to discuss something in the Dragon Ball Questions section and someone will say, "But didn't they say this?" and the answer will be "Well that's dub only." If I really want to understand everything properly, I feel like I just can't watch the dub. Too much made up nonsense sneaks it's way in and you remember it later thinking it's fact. x_x

SHINOBI-03 · Post by **SHINOBI-03** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:23 am

I have one small comment about line re-recordings...

Let's hope Norio Wakamoto won't screw his 1st form Cell performance like he did the with the Sparking series because it was AWFULL. I enjoyed the voice samples from Podcast 64, but in Sparking series he sounded like he forgot how to do it with his "yawny/sleepy" voice instead of the "lizerdy" noises.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:55 am

Taku128 wrote:
ImmortalSandwich wrote:If Funi gets DBKai, they will probably re use the dialogue they used in the Orange Boxes, which still works for me despite not being ideal. If they do end up properly redubbing DBKai, I will forever fall in love with Funimation.
The only problem with that is that it would require them to go through episode by episode and cut out the correct audio from each episode for Kai. If Kai were just Z in HD, no altered pacing, no removed filler, I'd expect them to just use their current dub. To get it to match up with Kai's visuals would take a lot of work. FUNi's lazy remaster makes me think they'd just redub the series from scratch as it would take less effort on the production side of things (just translate the script and "adapt" it). For once something good might come of FUNi's laziness.

After all, this is basically what happened with "One Piece". FUNimation's One Piece dub is one of the best dubs there is.

B · Post by B » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:15 am

ShinRogafuken wrote:
Taku128 wrote:
ImmortalSandwich wrote:If Funi gets DBKai, they will probably re use the dialogue they used in the Orange Boxes, which still works for me despite not being ideal. If they do end up properly redubbing DBKai, I will forever fall in love with Funimation.
The only problem with that is that it would require them to go through episode by episode and cut out the correct audio from each episode for Kai. If Kai were just Z in HD, no altered pacing, no removed filler, I'd expect them to just use their current dub. To get it to match up with Kai's visuals would take a lot of work. FUNi's lazy remaster makes me think they'd just redub the series from scratch as it would take less effort on the production side of things (just translate the script and "adapt" it). For once something good might come of FUNi's laziness.
After all, this is basically what happened with "One Piece". FUNimation's One Piece dub is one of the best dubs there is.

In before "WHY CAN'T DRAGON BALL BE TREeTED AWSUM WUTZ So SPESHULL ABOOT ONE PEES AN EFF EMM AY??//QUESTIONmark"

It would seem like the more logical thing to dub Kai from scratch, as it's going to be cut around and such, and FUNi would have to sift through their dub audio.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:44 am

Kendamu wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Hardly. Schemmel would fly back down and the rest of the cast, sans Vollmer, Antonelli, and Nadolny do regular work for FUNimation.
If he wouldn't show up to do the re-dubbing on the Bricks then I don't expect him to come back to do Kai.

Well, I believe that was mainly because he felt his old stuff from 1999 was good enough. Now, if FUNimation decides to rewrite the scripts to be more accurate, I think he'd come.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:08 pm

Get somebody else to do it then. Hell, replace the whole cast. As long as they can act.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:16 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:Get somebody else to do it then. Hell, replace the whole cast. As long as they can act.

Have their standards gone up that much since they dubbed it last time?

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:21 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Get somebody else to do it then. Hell, replace the whole cast. As long as they can act.
Have their standards gone up that much since they dubbed it last time?

What do you mean? I wasn't saying that the FUNimation cast can't act, I don't think that at all, I meant that if they replace the whole cast make sure that they choose good actors.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:22 pm

Whether or not they could act is iffy when you talk about the cast in the beginning when they first got the series (Freeza Arc) but nowadays they've gotten much better, just watch One Piece.
Sabat is wonderful as Zoro (which may have something to do with the fact that he ONLY plays Zoro... it isn't "One Piece, Featuring Colleen Clinkenbeard as Luffy, Luci Christian as Nami, and Chris Sabat as EVERYONE ELSE)
But Sonny Straight (Kuririn in DBZ) is possibly the BEST voice in the series as Usopp
Eric Vale (Trunks) does an incredibly Job of acting when he plays Sanji
I think if they got another crack at it, but this time just fixed the horrid script and kept the Japanese music, I think we could have one great dub!... well, maybe they should also recast some of Sabat's 100 roles...

B · Post by B » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:29 pm

I don't really see a point in that. Sabat's big three are Vegeta, Piccolo, and Yamcha. All his roles, except MAYBE Karin, aren't very improtant characters.

Also, I learned Sabat was Karin, like, two months ago.

My mind was blown.

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:25 am

B wrote:I don't really see a point in that. Sabat's big three are Vegeta, Piccolo, and Yamcha. All his roles, except MAYBE Karin, aren't very important characters.

Also, I learned Sabat was Karin, like, two months ago.

My mind was blown.

He was also Popo and Kami, along with Jeice.

Personally, recasting all of Sabat's roles sounds good to me.

B · Post by B » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:28 am

Popo and Kami are pretty much in the same boat as Karin, and The Ginyu Corps I consider unimportant.

I forget, did Sabat do Gurd too?

DBHighDefinition · Post by **DBHighDefinition** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:29 am

B wrote:Popo and Kami are pretty much in the same boat as Karin, and The Ginyu Corps I consider unimportant.

I forget, did Sabat do Gurd too?

Nah, that was Bill Townsley.

RoarkVegeta · Post by **RoarkVegeta** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:13 am

Even though not many people own these, I think the episodes will be like the Ani-Manga numbers. The Saiya-jin arc would be done in 17 episodes. No filler at all.

Wasted Wisher · Post by **Wasted Wisher** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:56 am

Hey, folks. Wasted Wisher here again. Been busy,busy,busy lately.
Nothing new on my end, waiting to see what comes up.

All I know for certain is that Raditz dies by episode 3, and then there's the cameo of Nappa and Vegeta, munching away on some poor alien's arm.

Personally, I hope they take this opportunity to color-correct the armor Vegeta wears during his first appearance. I really hated looking at that blue-green-and-orange ensemble.

B · Post by B » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:07 am

You and me, dude.

Haha! Epsidoe 3! That's half the time it took to kill him!

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:12 am

Wasted Wisher wrote:Hey, folks. Wasted Wisher here again. Been busy,busy,busy lately.
Nothing new on my end, waiting to see what comes up.

All I know for certain is that Raditz dies by episode 3, and then there's the cameo of Nappa and Vegeta, munching away on some poor alien's arm.

Personally, I hope they take this opportunity to color-correct the armor Vegeta wears during his first appearance. I really hated looking at that blue-green-and-orange ensemble.

B wrote:You and me, dude.

Haha! Epsidoe 3! That's half the time it took to kill him!

Wow, that's pretty cool.

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:29 am

B wrote:You and me, dude.

Haha! Epsidoe 3! That's half the time it took to kill him!

http://www.daizex.com/guides/filler/com ... ting.shtml

http://www.daizex.com/guides/filler/dbz_tv/001.shtml
Episode 001: 65% filler

http://www.daizex.com/guides/filler/dbz_tv/002.shtml
DBZ Episode 002: ~8% Filler

http://www.daizex.com/guides/filler/dbz_tv/003.shtml
DBZ Episode 003: ~2% Filler

http://www.daizex.com/guides/filler/dbz_tv/004.shtml
DBZ Episode 004: ~10% Filler

http://www.daizex.com/guides/filler/dbz_tv/005.shtml
DBZ Episode 005: ~7% Filler
(Raditz dies)

In all, 17.6% filler, about 20 minutes filler if you count each episode to be roughly 22.30 long.
With that being said, I must say they stripped it down pretty nicely.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:35 am

Well, remember that's the Raditz Fight, it's still way before the Filler and dragging out got to the worst of it.
I expect the most drastic cuts will happen once the Training for the Saiyan Arrival begins, then of course, Namek's getting a chainsaw taken to it XD

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:55 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:He was also Popo and Kami, along with Jeice.

Personally, recasting all of Sabat's roles sounds good to me.

I can't imagine that happening. It's something that's been discussed to death throughout the Forums as a "What if DBZ was completely re-dubbed"...We may finally get to see something close enough to that in a Kai Dub. But I just don't see that happening or being fair to fans of the Dub. It's like I've always said, at this point people are solidified in their Fandom. Their preference either lies with the Dub or Original. So changing anyone in the cast would be an injustice to Dub fans who know the characters to sound like that. For the most part it would only please those who don't watch the Dub. I mean making voices, especially those of more minor roles (At least in comparison to Vegeta, Piccolo, & Yamcha) sound more like the Japanese isn't going to make people suddenly go..."Wow, cool. Screw the Japanese Version, I'm not a Dub Fan."

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