"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by pacz360 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:34 pm

MaGyunia wrote:Hey guys and everyone. This might not be the best place to talk about this, which definitely falls out of any Dragonball-related stuff, but I found nowhere else or any other way to convey the message to as many of you as possible.

Some of you might have noticed that I haven't posted here for a month and a half. I had an intellectual collapse along with several simultaneous other issues on a number of different aspects of my life. The intellectual collapse could be considered the final culmination of a process of all kinds of not-so-healthy obsessions, which, for example, resulted in the fact that, during the time I posted here, between July and September, I wrote huge walls of text, while constantly repeating myself so that nobody would forget the main points I was trying to get at - too many at the same time, too. One small part of an enormous, gigantic wave of intellectual insanity came from the fact that I had such an active part in the numerous discussions in the threads here, which I've kept, all of them, in a document for posterity, but that's really not even 1% of the reason.

For one, I'll from now on try to be less repetitive of my ideas and concepts when addressing all the issues I want to discuss about Dragonball, DBSuper in general and each episode or each specific theme, so that I may became more "readable" (not self-criticizing my way or writing or my carefully-thought and valuable ideas and concepts, just the huge amounts of texts, the excessive themes approached in the same, or in a few posts, and especially the degree to which I constantly repeat the points I really, really wanted and still want to put across.

Finally, and most importantly, I've deeply missed interacting with you in this forum, as I see it as the best way to feel somehow connected to the Dragonball fandom. I obviously continued watching every episode as it aired in Japan in real time since I decided to quit posting, but I very deliberately chose not to continue to discuss anything with you here, for the intellectual strain it, among many other issues, produced.
The fact that I view my participation in the discussions with you, just as we did thoroughly between July and September, as the best way to feel somehow connected to the Dragonball fandom instead of just watching everything and keeping up-to-date with all the news and leaked info, etc., led me to reverse my decision and now I'm ready to come back, although, like I said before, I'll try to adjust the levels of repetition and the amount of text and themes I'll be addressing within the same post.

I hope most of you recall the numerous, thorough discussions we had, the way I wrote and participated, all my points and concepts (if you don't, that's fine, but I know most of you do, at least a big percentage and chunk of it, and besides I have the entire thing documented with me) and I also hope that you value the fact that I missed this to the point of "giving up" on fighting it and finally decide to come back with this announcement and subsequent return to regular and normal participation in the discussions.

Watching it just doesn't quite do it, I need to feel a part of the fandom watching it and discussing it at the same exact time I do, I need to feel that I'm part of the same world we all belong to. I can assure I had a tough time after I deliberately decided to quit posting altogether. I can't do it anymore. I'm back. I missed this, and I missed you guys.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by irreality » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:48 pm

MaGyunia wrote: I'm back. I missed this, and I missed you guys.
Welcome Back!

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:50 pm

Zombie wrote:
The interview said that IF Roshi trained he would have been as strong as the movie depicted.
I must've remembered it wrong...still, doesn't that mean that he did train for the events of the movie? It sort of follows, right? "If Roshi trained he'd be as strong as he was in RF. In RF he is that strong. Soooo...?"
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:56 pm

Captain Space wrote:
Zombie wrote:
The interview said that IF Roshi trained he would have been as strong as the movie depicted.
I must've remembered it wrong...still, doesn't that mean that he did train for the events of the movie? It sort of follows, right? "If Roshi trained he'd be as strong as he was in RF. In RF he is that strong. Soooo...?"
No. It's clearly stated he did not train.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:59 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:If Freeza is not killed in the Super arc (doubtful), he can participate in the tournament. =D
I don't think he would want to willingly.
Oh, of course not. But Frieza is too scared of Beerus to decline. lol.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyanZ » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:03 pm

Wait, which interview are people talking about?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:05 pm

SaiyanZ wrote:Wait, which interview are people talking about?
People are talking about the new manga chapter. The dialogue has been leaked. You can read it in the link below if you don't mind having the chapter spoiled:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =#p1002104
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by MaGyunia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:18 pm

Sorry to deviate a little bit from the issues you were discussing just now, but is it me or in the last few days they made it virtually impossible to get a Fuji TV stream? All of the channels I've used, and they're numerous, have become offline, all of them, and the last time I checked, one week ago for the 14th episode, they were all fully online, working and functional. Any info on this? Are they hunting down streaming websites to tighten the grip and make it harder for fans to watch the episodes in real time?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyanZ » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:35 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
SaiyanZ wrote:Wait, which interview are people talking about?
People are talking about the new manga chapter. The dialogue has been leaked. You can read it in the link below if you don't mind having the chapter spoiled:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =#p1002104
Cool stuff! But where was the bit about Roshi said?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:42 pm

Anyone else think that the start of Champa seems to follow the movies then Super? Goku mentions that he remembers hearing about the other universes which was in BOG. However in Super, Beerus does not mention them at the end of his fight with Goku.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:47 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Anyone else think that the start of Champa seems to follow the movies then Super? Goku mentions that he remembers hearing about the other universes which was in BOG. However in Super, Beerus does not mention them at the end of his fight with Goku.
This is the manga version of the Champa Arc. Toyotaro had Beerus tell Goku about the other universes, so that only makes sense...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by MaGyunia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:01 pm

Not really sure why they're keeping the manga and the TV series versions so utterly different when it comes to the issue of Champa's introduction and actions, but I maintain my bet that Champa will only be introduced after the Freeza arc in DBSuper, in the lead-up and/or during the 6th Universe arc, since it's pretty obvious he's connected to it (either its Hakaishin, or past runner to the position of Hakaishin for the 7th Universe, a race which he lost to Beerus, thus explaining his bitterness towards the latter), so it would make perfect sense.

Would be cool, though, if we were being introduced to him just like we were to the Beerus + Whis duo in the first two or three episodes of DBSuper (ignoring BoG) as a lead-up to his full appearance as whatever he's going to be within the Dragonball universe.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:07 pm

MaGyunia wrote:Hey guys and everyone. This might not be the best place to talk about this, which definitely falls out of any Dragonball-related stuff, but I found nowhere else or any other way to convey the message to as many of you as possible.

Some of you might have noticed that I haven't posted here for a month and a half. I had an intellectual collapse along with several simultaneous other issues on a number of different aspects of my life. The intellectual collapse could be considered the final culmination of a process of all kinds of not-so-healthy obsessions, which, for example, resulted in the fact that, during the time I posted here, between July and September, I wrote huge walls of text, while constantly repeating myself so that nobody would forget the main points I was trying to get at - too many at the same time, too. One small part of an enormous, gigantic wave of intellectual insanity came from the fact that I had such an active part in the numerous discussions in the threads here, which I've kept, all of them, in a document for posterity, but that's really not even 1% of the reason.

For one, I'll from now on try to be less repetitive of my ideas and concepts when addressing all the issues I want to discuss about Dragonball, DBSuper in general and each episode or each specific theme, so that I may became more "readable" (not self-criticizing my way or writing or my carefully-thought and valuable ideas and concepts, just the huge amounts of texts, the excessive themes approached in the same, or in a few posts, and especially the degree to which I constantly repeat the points I really, really wanted and still want to put across.

Finally, and most importantly, I've deeply missed interacting with you in this forum, as I see it as the best way to feel somehow connected to the Dragonball fandom. I obviously continued watching every episode as it aired in Japan in real time since I decided to quit posting, but I very deliberately chose not to continue to discuss anything with you here, for the intellectual strain it, among many other issues, produced.
The fact that I view my participation in the discussions with you, just as we did thoroughly between July and September, as the best way to feel somehow connected to the Dragonball fandom instead of just watching everything and keeping up-to-date with all the news and leaked info, etc., led me to reverse my decision and now I'm ready to come back, although, like I said before, I'll try to adjust the levels of repetition and the amount of text and themes I'll be addressing within the same post.

I hope most of you recall the numerous, thorough discussions we had, the way I wrote and participated, all my points and concepts (if you don't, that's fine, but I know most of you do, at least a big percentage and chunk of it, and besides I have the entire thing documented with me) and I also hope that you value the fact that I missed this to the point of "giving up" on fighting it and finally decide to come back with this announcement and subsequent return to regular and normal participation in the discussions.

Watching it just doesn't quite do it, I need to feel a part of the fandom watching it and discussing it at the same exact time I do, I need to feel that I'm part of the same world we all belong to. I can assure I had a tough time after I deliberately decided to quit posting altogether. I can't do it anymore. I'm back. I missed this, and I missed you guys.
I really missed reading this longs texts :) , i am not complaining.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by MaGyunia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:12 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
MaGyunia wrote:Hey guys and everyone. This might not be the best place to talk about this, which definitely falls out of any Dragonball-related stuff, but I found nowhere else or any other way to convey the message to as many of you as possible.

Some of you might have noticed that I haven't posted here for a month and a half. I had an intellectual collapse along with several simultaneous other issues on a number of different aspects of my life. The intellectual collapse could be considered the final culmination of a process of all kinds of not-so-healthy obsessions, which, for example, resulted in the fact that, during the time I posted here, between July and September, I wrote huge walls of text, while constantly repeating myself so that nobody would forget the main points I was trying to get at - too many at the same time, too. One small part of an enormous, gigantic wave of intellectual insanity came from the fact that I had such an active part in the numerous discussions in the threads here, which I've kept, all of them, in a document for posterity, but that's really not even 1% of the reason.

For one, I'll from now on try to be less repetitive of my ideas and concepts when addressing all the issues I want to discuss about Dragonball, DBSuper in general and each episode or each specific theme, so that I may became more "readable" (not self-criticizing my way or writing or my carefully-thought and valuable ideas and concepts, just the huge amounts of texts, the excessive themes approached in the same, or in a few posts, and especially the degree to which I constantly repeat the points I really, really wanted and still want to put across.

Finally, and most importantly, I've deeply missed interacting with you in this forum, as I see it as the best way to feel somehow connected to the Dragonball fandom. I obviously continued watching every episode as it aired in Japan in real time since I decided to quit posting, but I very deliberately chose not to continue to discuss anything with you here, for the intellectual strain it, among many other issues, produced.
The fact that I view my participation in the discussions with you, just as we did thoroughly between July and September, as the best way to feel somehow connected to the Dragonball fandom instead of just watching everything and keeping up-to-date with all the news and leaked info, etc., led me to reverse my decision and now I'm ready to come back, although, like I said before, I'll try to adjust the levels of repetition and the amount of text and themes I'll be addressing within the same post.

I hope most of you recall the numerous, thorough discussions we had, the way I wrote and participated, all my points and concepts (if you don't, that's fine, but I know most of you do, at least a big percentage and chunk of it, and besides I have the entire thing documented with me) and I also hope that you value the fact that I missed this to the point of "giving up" on fighting it and finally decide to come back with this announcement and subsequent return to regular and normal participation in the discussions.

Watching it just doesn't quite do it, I need to feel a part of the fandom watching it and discussing it at the same exact time I do, I need to feel that I'm part of the same world we all belong to. I can assure I had a tough time after I deliberately decided to quit posting altogether. I can't do it anymore. I'm back. I missed this, and I missed you guys.
I really missed reading this longs texts :) , i am not complaining.
You mean from me, or any long texts from whoever? Do you mean to tell me I am or was actually the only one to write those huge texts discussing so many different issues within the same post and repeating myself over and over? :lol:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:21 pm

You mean from me, or any long texts from whoever? Do you mean to tell me I am or was actually the only one to write those huge texts discussing so many different issues within the same post and repeating myself over and over? :lol:
There are at least two other users who type as much as you. lol.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by MaGyunia » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:29 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
You mean from me, or any long texts from whoever? Do you mean to tell me I am or was actually the only one to write those huge texts discussing so many different issues within the same post and repeating myself over and over? :lol:
There are at least two other users who type as much as you. lol.

Welcome back, btw. =D
I highly doubt that. Did you follow closely all my posts from July to September? Most of them were called "essays" or "huge walls of text", gigantic, etc., full of repetitions. Lots of complaints were made about the way I wrote or the fact that I addressed too many subjects in the same post, etc.

But if you're talking only about quantity, regardless of quality or other aspects and factors, then yeah, it might be possible.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:38 pm

Zombie wrote:
Captain Space wrote:
Zombie wrote:
The interview said that IF Roshi trained he would have been as strong as the movie depicted.
I must've remembered it wrong...still, doesn't that mean that he did train for the events of the movie? It sort of follows, right? "If Roshi trained he'd be as strong as he was in RF. In RF he is that strong. Soooo...?"
No. It's clearly stated he did not train.
Really? Where? Besides, that makes not much sense...if Roshi trained, he would've been as strong as the movie depicted...but he didn't train, and...was as strong as the movie depicted...?
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SaiyanZ wrote:Wait, which interview are people talking about?
People are talking about the new manga chapter. The dialogue has been leaked. You can read it in the link below if you don't mind having the chapter spoiled:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =#p1002104
Cool stuff! But where was the bit about Roshi said?
No, we are talking about an interview though I can't recall exactly which one. fadeddreams5 is referring to the other information people are talking about on this thread, with the new universe 6 arc information.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:52 pm

Oh, I dug this up from Volume "F" searching for the Roshi quote (which I couldn't really find for certain). Super is specifically going against Toriyama's idea that it was Goku who sought out Whis first:
  • Akira Toriyama’s Inside Story: Tell us the details on how they started training with Whis!
    Goku was the one who asked Whis, of course. It was on condition that he give Whis tasty food! Vegeta didn’t want Goku to leave him in the dust, so he had no choice but to come train too.
Edit: I was right in thinking it was from Volume "F"", it's just not on any of Kanzenshuu's pages:
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:00 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Oh, I dug this up from Volume "F" searching for the Roshi quote (which I couldn't really find for certain).
Did it disappear?

Or was it never there to begin with...

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EDIT: Welp, damn it, that's ruined that joke XD Thanks though. I...think that supports what I'm saying. If he put his mind to it, he could've always been this strong at any time before, but he didn't until now. Now he did, so he's this strong.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:03 pm

Captain Space wrote:Did it disappear?

Or was it never there to begin with...
I found a quote, but looking over the post, I wasn't sure it was actually related to Roshi because the rest of of the post was talking about Freeza. I had to find a second source... xD
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