Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Kingdom Heartless]

Well, even if this special is lousy from a narrative point of view, I'm finding it hard not to appreciate it for at least the quality fan-art.

[rereboy]

Well, even if this special is lousy from a narrative point of view, I'm finding it hard not to appreciate it for at least the quality fan-art.

Its the best special so far overall, IMO.

[funrush]

By the way, is this Universe 1? I was thinking it's either 1 or 11.

He just said it supposed to be Universes 1 and 10.

Oh, sorry, I thought he just meant that U1 and 10 had little to tell, not that they were this chapter. I wasn't thinking into it very well.

[ChahikoDBZ]

I'm really hoping to see Mirai Gohan somewhere in the upcoming chapters.

No sign of him so far.

[testing223]

By the way, is this Universe 1? I was thinking it's either 1 or 11.

He just said it supposed to be Universes 1 and 10. And yeah, pretty much another pointless special depicting what we already knew by having at least half a brain. I would like these specials if any of them depicted the characters doing anything other than what is painfully obvious.

It's fanfiction, though. Salagir, who isn't the best writer in general, is working within a limiting medium. He doesn't have the talent to make the characters out out-of-character yet still make them work.

A good example of one of the VERY FEW times that fanfiction is pulled off correctly is the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by Alan Moore. It's not the best and it's gotten a bit poor in recent issues, but on the whole Moore managed to breath unique life into pre-established characters without having them be TOO alien as to be unrecognizable.

It's a Dragonball fanfic, which already has, let's be honest, a pretty poorly-written base. So...yeah, we shouldn't expect too much of Salagir.

[rereboy]

By the way, is this Universe 1? I was thinking it's either 1 or 11.

He just said it supposed to be Universes 1 and 10. And yeah, pretty much another pointless special depicting what we already knew by having at least half a brain. I would like these specials if any of them depicted the characters doing anything other than what is painfully obvious.

It's fanfiction, though. Salagir, who isn't the best writer in general, is working within a limiting medium. He doesn't have the talent to make the characters out out-of-character yet still make them work.

A good example of one of the VERY FEW times that fanfiction is pulled off correctly is the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by Alan Moore. It's not the best and it's gotten a bit poor in recent issues, but on the whole Moore managed to breath unique life into pre-established characters without having them be TOO alien as to be unrecognizable.

It's a Dragonball fanfic, which already has, let's be honest, a pretty poorly-written base. So...yeah, we shouldn't expect too much of Salagir.

That's not really the main point to be made regarding the specials chapters. The special chapters are like this because they are supposed to be like this. They are supposed to be filler, they are supposed to just explain a little bit better the different universes, they are supposed to be short or relatively short so that it doesn't take too long to get back to the main chapters... In short, they are supposed to be just a cool extra that we get to see instead of having less frequent updates in the main chapters or interruptions in the release schedule (since they do DBM in their spare time).

Most keep expecting the specials to be something different from this but the truth is that they aren't supposed to be anything more, and given the limited pages, time and, most of the time, inferior artists (compared to Gogeta Jr), that they want to dedicate to the specials, it wouldn't really work even if they tried for something more.

[SuppaSaiyanNerd]

So much wasted potential in these specials... Salagir and DBM really don't derserve all the fame they have.

[rereboy]

What I don't get is the importance that everybody keeps giving to the specials. They aren't important... at all. They are fillers, extras and don't really reflect what DBM is (DBM is the main chapters). Its fine to dislike DBM or consider it overrated, but to so just because of its specials (aka extras) doesn't seem right to me...

[DNA]

Let's not forget that, like I've previously discussed with rereboy, most of the big plot points in the main comic were ideas that Salagir gathered from other fanfic authors. So yeah, I also don't think Salagir deserves all the fame he gets, he just mooches off other authors and smashes it all together and sometimes he actually gets good interactions, other times he gets boring shit instead. He should at least acknowledge that he isn't that good, instead of trying to make the world believe he's "awesome writing skills".

And well, rereboy knows this (at least I think and hope he does). I don't think the specials affect the overall quality of the main comic, they do however affect the pacing, and they are a big blow to the pacing.

All in all, the main comic is good, but definitely not amazing. I still think Toyble is a much more skilled artist, he draws and writes himself, and he managed to grab a bunch of shitty fanfics and make something coherent. On the other hand you get GogetaJr. who is a pretty good artist and Salagir, who grabs boring or sometimes passable fanfics and manages to make them into watered down versions.

I believe GogetaJr. would be better off making his own fan comic.

[rereboy]

I'm not defending Salagir's writting or something like that, I just think it doesn't make much sense to judge DBM from its specials.

The only thing the specials affect regarding the main comic is the pacing but without them the pacing would be affected anyway by interruptions or less frequent updates. So, regarding the pacing, although it does affect the pacing of the comic, its basically a matter of picking our "poison" because the pacing would be affected anyway. Neither situation is ideal.

And ultimately, the kind of pacing it affects is only a temporary one, which we can call the "release pacing". When the comic is finished, this problem will be irrelevant because there won't be anything else to release and the only pacing that will matter at that point will be pacing within the actual comic (of the actual story and of the fights).

That's why I don't see how the comic can be justly judged from its specials.

As for Salagir's writing, you are absolutely right in saying that he is basically using many ideas from many sources. That makes it actually harder for me to judge his writing skills because I basically don't know if it was him that came up (by himself) with a certain idea, if it was one of the sources he uses, if it was one of his collaborators, if it was Gogeta Jr himself when he was drawing that came up with it, etc.
That being said, I would say that I don't think he is brilliant but he and his team do a competent job in making this comic enjoyable overall (and sometimes very enjoyable). At least so far. It will all greatly depend on where this is all going and just what is going to happen in the story in the future. Its possible that they end up ruining everything but I really hope not.

[jjgp1112]

[Scarz]

Like using a flamethrower to kill an ant.

[TrunksTrevelyan0064]

Like using a flamethrower to kill an ant.

Hey, a lv.100 Charizard vs a wild lv.4 Caterpie. It happens.

[Hades]

Like using a flamethrower to kill an ant.

Hey, a lv.100 Charizard vs a wild lv.4 Caterpie. It happens.

I have to sig that.

[SuppaSaiyanNerd]

I wasn't saying that the specials ruin the main "story", because it sucks even more. The specials really do have a fuck load of wasted potential. Isn't their purpose to give actual stories about each universe? Why make them into mindless killing fests if that is the whole idea of the main story? Just a bunch of random fan characters punching each other. What a let down.

[dprez]

Bibidi Babidi BOOM!!!

[Hellspawn28]

If Bibidi is dead now then I guess the special is over now?

[DNA]

If Bibidi is dead now then I guess the special is over now?

The rest of the special will be them destroying various threats around the universe, nothing out of the ordinary.

[dprez]

I think that would be cool to see.

Special Chapter Bibidi, 5 millions years ago

But we won't see it. I think this special is a page or two away from ending.

[rereboy]

I think that would be cool to see.

Special Chapter Bibidi, 5 millions years ago

But we won't see it. I think this special is a page or two away from ending.

There are still 4 pages left.