Basically my opinion. LSS is just a mutant SS2, and follows the same progression. LSS3 Broly gets MURDERIZED, my answers haven't changed. I think he'd be the absolute weakest SS3-tier fighter seen in the series, even lower than Mr. Buu.Kaboom wrote:There is no "Legendary Super Saiyan 3" form. Far as I'm concerned, Broly would just get to the Super Saiyan 3 version of him we've seen by using his "LSSJ" state as the bridge to it rather than Super Saiyan 2, but the resulting power in SSJ3 wouldn't be any different.
Normal Saiyan: Base --> SSJ --> SSJ2 --> SSJ3
Broly: Base --> SSJ --> LSSJ --> SSJ3
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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There is no LSSJ3 Broly but just SSJ3 Broly.TheGmGoken wrote:Instead of this Broly:Kakashi wrote:What do you mean regular SSjin 3?TheGmGoken wrote:I'm taking this as in regular SSJ3 btw.
Goku and Vegeta murders him in SSj3 and Gotenks fucking kills him so bad that he doesn't even make it to the check in station.I mean this wonderful Broly that will sadly will never be in a video game in favor of his muscle bound freak version. For that he needs 2 pictures:Spoiler:See the difference. One is LSSJ3 the other is SSj3. The game trailer said LSS3 so that what I take it as.Spoiler:
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He murderers brutally everyone but Gotenks. Gotenks powers down into Super Saiyan, and kicks the shit out of him.goku the krump dancer wrote:SS3 Broly runs the gauntlet.. Vs
SS3 Future Gohan
SS3 Future Trunks
SS3 Vegeta
SS3 Goku
SS3 Gotenks
I believe that Legendary Super Saiyan 3 is a thing, based on Goku naming him like that in an early trailer, and because of his appearance clearly being a hybrid of LSS & SS3, and it also comes after LSS. I actually don't believe that Broli's LSS & LSS3 are exclusive to him, Goku, Gohan, etc should have the ability to do it as well. LSS is a form beyond Super Saiyan Grade 3 IMO, which requires a pure evil heart to achieve (since it turns the user into a obsessed heartless maniac that loves blood & destruction). So, Goku & co. will never achieve the form not because it's not in their DNA, but because it's not their type. LSS3 comes after it, and while it skips "LSS2", it does take the power-up. So, while SS3 is "base x400", LSS3 is "base x400 x"LSS multiplier"".
The special thing about Broli isn't his forms, it's his power. He is born with much higher than usual BP, and he can transform easily into a Super Saiyan & beyond.
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Majin Vegeta Vs Base Gotenks, who fucks up first?
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Yeah, I would think that he loses at Vegeta. Unless it's pre-Majin Vegeta, I think he might have a shot at winning. I don't know, I'm terrible at gauging the strength of movie villains, although movie 10 Broli does seem more straightforward than most.
Oh and base Gotenks is killed immediately.
Oh and base Gotenks is killed immediately.
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M10 LSSjin Broly vs SSjin 2 Goku
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One of the oldest ones ever.Kakashi wrote:M10 LSSjin Broly vs SSjin 2 Goku
Anyway, Goku crushes.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Doubt it. Even if Goku might have the edge, he would not be much ahead of BroliRandomGuy96 wrote:One of the oldest ones ever.Kakashi wrote:M10 LSSjin Broly vs SSjin 2 Goku
Anyway, Goku crushes.
SSjin 2 Goku >=< M10 LSSjin Broli is plausible
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It is. But that's not how I see it. Broly did nothing to impress me or put him on Goku's level in that movie.Kakashi wrote:Doubt it. Even if Goku might have the edge, he would not be much ahead of BrolyRandomGuy96 wrote:One of the oldest ones ever.Kakashi wrote:M10 LSSjin Broly vs SSjin 2 Goku
Anyway, Goku crushes.
SSjin 2 Goku >=< M10 LSSjin Broli is plausible
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Broly three shotted SSjin 2 Teen GohanRandomGuy96 wrote:It is. But that's not how I see it. Broly did nothing to impress me or put him on Goku's level in that movie.
That's some feat
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I think that SS2 Goku would one-shot him. And no, I don't consider beating up early Buu Saga Gohan to be very impressive at all. Especially since Broly ended up losing to two half dead Super Saiyans.Kakashi wrote:Broly three shotted SSjin 2 Teen GohanRandomGuy96 wrote:It is. But that's not how I see it. Broly did nothing to impress me or put him on Goku's level in that movie.
That's some feat
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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LSSjin Broly tanked a punch to the face while smiling. SSjin 2 Goku can't one shot SSjin 2 Teen Gohan. Gohan is still relevant to the adults.RandomGuy96 wrote:I think that SS2 Goku would one-shot him. And no, I don't consider beating up early Buu Saga Gohan to be very impressive at all. Especially since Broly ended up losing to two half dead Super Saiyans.Kakashi wrote:Broly three shotted SSjin 2 Teen GohanRandomGuy96 wrote:It is. But that's not how I see it. Broly did nothing to impress me or put him on Goku's level in that movie.
That's some feat
Broly lost to SSjin 2 Teen Gohan + SSjin Goku (Boo Arc) + SSjin Goten
He was able to survive it until he arrived the the sun
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Goku can win by combining Instant Transmission and Super Kamehameha. I doubt he would win a beam struggle by himself. I think Broly is a bit stronger than Goku, but still weaker than Good Buu.Kakashi wrote:M10 LSSjin Broly vs SSjin 2 Goku
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PlausibleHugo Boss wrote:Goku can win by combining Instant Transmission and Super Kamehameha. I doubt he would win a beam struggle by himself. I think Broly is a bit stronger than Goku, but still weaker than Good Buu.Kakashi wrote:M10 LSSjin Broly vs SSjin 2 Goku
I think there is a huge gap between Goku to Gohan for Broli to be stronger than Goku though
SSjin 2 Teen Gohan=150
SSjin 2 Kid Gohan=200
M10 LSSjin Broli=230
SSjin 2 Goku=250
Good Boo=300
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Pure Evil Boo vs SSjin 2 Gohan (Post Z Sword)
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I'd think even good ol' Fat Boo would wreck SSJ2 Gohan. Goku had doubts about Gohan reaching Fat Boo's power even after his crazy training gains and Kid Boo is even stronger than that.Kakashi wrote:Pure Evil Boo vs SSjin 2 Gohan (Post Z Sword)
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This is Gray Boo, not Pure Boo. Well he had doubts but never said it was impossible so Gohan should be stronger than Goku in all formsKingsley wrote:I'd think even good ol' Fat Boo would wreck SSJ2 Gohan. Goku had doubts about Gohan reaching Fat Boo's power even after his crazy training gains and Kid Boo is even stronger than that.Kakashi wrote:Pure Evil Boo vs SSjin 2 Gohan (Post Z Sword)
SSjin 2 Gohan after is sword training is stronger than SSjin 2 Goku and so is Gray Boo
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I think Pure Evil is stronger than Pure anyway, so he stomps.Kakashi wrote:Pure Evil Boo vs SSjin 2 Gohan (Post Z Sword)
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Super Buu Gotenks Vs. Super Buu Gohan
Now the latter is obviously stronger, but a lot of people think he got dumber when he absorbed Gohan. Thoughts?
Now the latter is obviously stronger, but a lot of people think he got dumber when he absorbed Gohan. Thoughts?
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Pure Evil Boo is most of Fat Boo's power and Fat Boo is weaker than Pure BooRandomGuy96 wrote:I think Pure Evil is stronger than Pure anyway, so he stomps.Kakashi wrote:Pure Evil Boo vs SSjin 2 Gohan (Post Z Sword)