mute_proxy wrote:HeroR wrote:
Wouldn't it be more important for Gohan to learn the Solar Flare in the present timeline since he was personally trained by both Goku and Piccolo during that time to prepare for the androids? Why would future Gohan feel the need to learn it, but not present Gohan who knew a major threat was coming.
Cell used it, twice, against Trunks. That was how he escaped Piccolo and absorbed Android 18.
Who cares for whats and ifs?? The fact is, future Trunks did learn it from Gohan, and there's an explanation without plot holes, regardless of how much you dont like it.
Cell is a villain. I'm talking about the heroes finding it useful. Gohan could've not found it useful and not used it as did everyone else, regardless if he knew it.
He could have used it against Super Buu when he was trying to buy time for his fusion to break. There is no explanation other than fans making up reasons when Future Gohan learned it, when his present counterpart didn't.
Draconic wrote:Reading the translation, especially in script form, finally made me pinpoint what never sat well with me, outside of the boring paneling and story choices I don't find done as well as the anime. There is no character present in the manga. Everything is an exposition dump! Characters are fighting? Make sure you explain every single thing they are doing. Characters are standing around? Make sure to have them talk about something the audience doesn't know. Cut out to something else? Someone is explaining something to someone else. No one has enough room to talk about how they feel, what they think about the events that are happening. This got especially blatant in this arc, with Zamasu/Black. In the anime you have most of everything that the manga is doing with them, but Black/Zamasu still can go on a rant about what he thinks about mortals, Trunks' sins, Goku and Vegeta standing against them etc. In the manga, I can't think of a single time their dialogue has not been either exposition or just stating the obvious.
The only exceptions I can think of is stuff that's coming from Toriyama, as it's both in the manga and anime: Piccolo asking Frost not to use his final form against him, Vegeta's Saiyan cells rant, Zuno being an asshole and counting all the stupid questions Bulma asks, Vegeta swearing Magetta, Vegeta fake-threatning Planet Sadal to motivate Cabba, Goku giving up against Hit.
It seems to be the exact reverse of the anime. While the anime barely explains anything for the sake of cool character moments, the manga explains way to fucking much, turning every character into a boring words machine.
Also, on an unrelated note, complaining about Trunks' Taiyoken is the very definition of nitpicking.
The dialog isn't that big of a deal since the manga only has so many pages and it's monthly. So everything that comes out of everyone's months needs to be important, although the cuts to Beerus and the Supreme Kai were unneeded since it assumed that the audience can't figured out this stuff themselves. Then again, maybe that is true since a lot of fans can't read behind the lines.
I really don't care it's a nitpick. Gohan knowing the Solar Flare and teaching it to Trunks is a big deal since if he knew it, Gohan could have used it against Super Buu who he was getting his butt kicked.
