Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Post by Zelvin » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:01 am

Doctor. wrote: He saw Gotenks in Super.
Did he? I don't think he did. Gotenks wasn't around in the RoF arc and never fought. Then Freeza was dead again and only brought in by Goku for the ToP. And Goten and Trunks went off to the island to watch over it in place of Android 17.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:05 am

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Doctor. wrote: He saw Gotenks in Super.
Did he? I don't think he did. Gotenks wasn't around in the RoF arc and never fought. Then Freeza was dead again and only brought in by Goku for the ToP. And Goten and Trunks went off to the island to watch over it in place of Android 17.
Gotenks takes down Tagoma, Freeza's seen him.
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Post by Doctor. » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:06 am

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Doctor. wrote:
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How is Frost an example of not understanding that Freeza's forms are repression forms?
Frost, even though he is a completely different person from Freeza and has no connection to him at all besides being from the same race, coincidentally has the same amount of forms with the exact same design.
Well, no he doesn't. He doesn't have the same number of forms, and he doesn't even refer to his forms as "2nd" or "3rd" or anything like that, he has this First form, his Assault form and then his Final Form. He said that he doesn't use his Final Form because he accidentally killed somebody with the power of it. That is completely 100% in line with what we know of Freeza and the purpose of his forms, in Frost's case he has suppression forms for the purposes of not accidentally killing people with his overwhelming power.(Or at least, that's the facade he was putting on to people.) Therefore, he has forms to suppress it. Not the slightest clue how you managed to somehow misconstrue this to be Frost being a clone of Freeza with the same forms but not actually using them as suppression forms. He has 3 forms, not 4, and he also uses them for suppression purposes.
Toyotaro showed his second form in the manga, and Frost showed 100% full power in the anime, so between all the continuities, he shares all of Freeza's forms.

I don't care about the reason he has those forms, that's not on Toriyama's part, that's on Toei's writers who I'll commend for remembering that the forms are supposed to be suppression forms. Toriyama evidently designed Frost with the same number of forms as Freeza and with the same designs. I won't believe that it was a simple coincidence that the two had the same idea about suppressing their power, chose the same number of forms and designed them in the exact same way. I'll believe the likely option that Toriyama forgot Freeza's true form is his last and that Freeza created his forms, instead viewing Freeza's forms as a transformation tree like the Saiyans and based Frost around that for convenience.

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Post by Zelvin » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:17 am

ekrolo2 wrote: Gotenks takes down Tagoma, Freeza's seen him.
Eh, he wasn't in the movie that I can remember and I pretty much skipped over the RoF arc of the anime. But yes, correct, seems Freeza knows about Fusion in this version. And he knows about potara from the ToP. We know Freeza wants to acquire UI, and if it can't be done with the Dragon Balls his only course of action is to learn in through observation since Freeza has no desire to put himself in danger to learn it. Since being killed again wouldn't serve his purpose any.
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Post by Kinokima » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:30 am

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Nickolaidas wrote:Frieza: MAKE ME GOD OF D-
Beerus: (appears behind him)
Frieza: erm.. MAKE ME TALLER!!! (smiles comically at beerus)
Shenron: Your wish is granted.
Frieza: (dammit ...)
Freeza: Make me stand ABOVE all!
Shenron: Your wish is granted *TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL*

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Post by vashter » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:37 am

Has anyone watch geekdom101 about spoilers he mention when gogeta fuse their scene gonna look like another dimensional something like that? I could've sworn he mention that, curiously what that gonna look like

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Post by Galan007 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:49 am

Geekdom said that at least one of the battles appears to take place in an alternate dimension. I'd imagine that once the powers-that-be reach a certain level and start threatening to destroy the earth/universe, Whis will teleport them to a place where said battle cannot cause any collateral damage.

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Post by vashter » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:51 am

Galan007 wrote:Geekdom said that at least one of the battles appears to take place in an alternate dimension. I'd imagine that once the powers-that-be reach a certain level and start threatening to destroy the earth/universe, Whis will teleport them to a place where said battle cannot cause any collateral damage.
lol now i can imagine how insane gogeta is

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Post by zarmack » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:02 pm

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zarmack wrote:Exactly. I hate how hypocritical this fandom can be.
There's no hypocrisy in respecting and/or appreciating the author's take on his own character over someone else's take as mere fans (assuming this is true and does come from Toriyama).
Just because the original author does something doesn't mean it can't be criticized.

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Post by Lukmendes » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:06 pm

Doctor. wrote:Toyotaro showed his second form in the manga, and Frost showed 100% full power in the anime, so between all the continuities, he shares all of Freeza's forms.
He didn't use any equivalent to Freeza's second form in the manga, he skipped to the third one, just check out chapter 9.
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:15 pm

Lukmendes wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Toyotaro showed his second form in the manga, and Frost showed 100% full power in the anime, so between all the continuities, he shares all of Freeza's forms.
He didn't use any equivalent to Freeza's second form in the manga, he skipped to the third one, just check out chapter 9.
Second Form Frost appears in one of the end-of-chapter bonus pages. Krillin is thankful that he didn't use 'that' form and there's a little drawing of Frost.

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Post by Lukmendes » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:18 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:
Lukmendes wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Toyotaro showed his second form in the manga, and Frost showed 100% full power in the anime, so between all the continuities, he shares all of Freeza's forms.
He didn't use any equivalent to Freeza's second form in the manga, he skipped to the third one, just check out chapter 9.
Second Form Frost appears in one of the end-of-chapter bonus pages. Krillin is thankful that he didn't use 'that' form and there's a little drawing of Frost.
Ah, didn't know that, thanks.
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Post by Luso Saiyan » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:16 pm

zarmack wrote:Just because the original author does something doesn't mean it can't be criticized.
No, it doesn't. Who said it can't be criticized? Who's stopping you from criticizing anything? That has nothing to do with my comment. You accused others of hypocrisy when there's nothing to back that up.

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Post by vashter » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:18 pm

Think tom Wednesday, you best avoid any spoilers because later today it gonna be fucking chaos with twitter, this, reddit/r/dbz, youtube, anything else gonna be wildfire spreading faster when spoilers is leak, I can say 500% someone at world premier WILL screenshot part of "goku finally", and "gogeta"

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Post by CTAkuma » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm

vashter wrote:Think tom Wednesday, you best avoid any spoilers because later today it gonna be fucking chaos with twitter, this, reddit/r/dbz, youtube, anything else gonna be wildfire spreading faster when spoilers is leak, I can say 500% someone at world premier WILL screenshot part of "goku finally", and "gogeta"
Don't we already know what's going to happen in the movie, what's left there to spoil other than "goku finally"?

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Post by FrostByte » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:11 pm

CTAkuma wrote:
vashter wrote:Think tom Wednesday, you best avoid any spoilers because later today it gonna be fucking chaos with twitter, this, reddit/r/dbz, youtube, anything else gonna be wildfire spreading faster when spoilers is leak, I can say 500% someone at world premier WILL screenshot part of "goku finally", and "gogeta"
Don't we already know what's going to happen in the movie, what's left there to spoil other than "goku finally"?
We might get to know what happens to Broly after Chelye makes her wish to save him. Will he be teleported back to planet Vampa/Banpa, or if he's still on Earth and gets to interact with Goku and gang after he calms down.

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:25 pm

vashter wrote:Think tom Wednesday, you best avoid any spoilers because later today it gonna be fucking chaos with twitter, this, reddit/r/dbz, youtube, anything else gonna be wildfire spreading faster when spoilers is leak, I can say 500% someone at world premier WILL screenshot part of "goku finally", and "gogeta"
Hopefully it'll be simple enough to sort the true spoilers from the sea of bullshit. The worst part will be the storm of hot takes based on incomplete second-hand information.

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Post by vashter » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:36 pm

CTAkuma wrote:
vashter wrote:Think tom Wednesday, you best avoid any spoilers because later today it gonna be fucking chaos with twitter, this, reddit/r/dbz, youtube, anything else gonna be wildfire spreading faster when spoilers is leak, I can say 500% someone at world premier WILL screenshot part of "goku finally", and "gogeta"
Don't we already know what's going to happen in the movie, what's left there to spoil other than "goku finally"?
Well there is massive of people doesn't believe geekdom101 spoilers i don't know why even he claim he got source from someone in funimation in another country on his youtube channel I could've sworn I heard him said Funimation that bout it, even reddit confirm geekdom101 got source from some foreign guy who a engineering on something

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Post by RecolorSaiyan » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:46 pm

vashter wrote:
CTAkuma wrote:
vashter wrote:Think tom Wednesday, you best avoid any spoilers because later today it gonna be fucking chaos with twitter, this, reddit/r/dbz, youtube, anything else gonna be wildfire spreading faster when spoilers is leak, I can say 500% someone at world premier WILL screenshot part of "goku finally", and "gogeta"
Don't we already know what's going to happen in the movie, what's left there to spoil other than "goku finally"?
Well there is massive of people doesn't believe geekdom101 spoilers i don't know why even he claim he got source from someone in funimation in another country on his youtube channel I could've sworn I heard him said Funimation that bout it, even reddit confirm geekdom101 got source from some foreign guy who a engineering on something

He got it from a engineer working at a foreign dub studio. I don't think he'd put this info out without being totally confident in this guy cause otherwise it would really hurt his channel going forward and most of what he said happens seems very believable

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Post by AnimeNation101 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:06 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote:
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Shaddy wrote:That's an amazing wish for Freeza. I missed Dragon Ball being funny and wacky, it's a great punchline for a movie so built to cater to the "I WANT LE EPIC LORE FAIGHTS" crowd. Bonus points if Shenron does a monkey's paw and makes him 0.002 of a centimeter taller because fuck Freeza.
Lol, this movie is definitely NOT catering to the fans who want epic and lore fights. It’s been made clear this is catering to Broly fans. And just fans in general as most of this movie is just fanservice.
It’s not for Broly fans either as spoilers clearly reveal he’s going to lose to Gogeta Weak Blue and even needs to get “saved” by a wish from the dragon. Even though he’s supposed to have infinite zenkais that he could spam indefinitely, ensuring his victory against Gogeta Blue. If that is not a dent into a Saiyans pride, i don’t know what is. If Vegeta were dead he would be rolling in his grave in disgust.
“Gogeta Weak Blue”. Must be annoyed UI Goku doesn’t happen and what Baggie, me, and many others were telling you came true.

And yeah, just Broly coming back makes this a Broly movie. Him staying alive, if anything, is an even greater bonus.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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