Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dyno]

I am more worried about the "1000-strong army" than the Super Saiyan subject. What in the world is happening with Son Gohan, though? Is his long-time without training affecting his mind?

[GokuRules987]

Some things just dont make sense in this movie. I hope we get a better explanation.

[Marco Polo]

You're taking the line to seriously.... Its just a Toriyama/Staff slap to everyone that thinks he couldn't do it anymore.

He's not taking it seriously or non seriously, he's just saying it makes no sense, which is fact. Since Toriyama/Staff already made Gohan turn SSJ in Battle of Gods during the SSJ God summoning.

[dbzfan7]

The stupid...the stupid just keeps piling up...my god. Do we even have to mention how stupid this Gohan comment is? But hey he mentions training...so there ya go to some people, he's gonna train? But this is Gohan, so even if his training gains are usually massive, I highly doubt he'll be different since they can't let Gohan be relevant. Now then...the pile of stupid.

Why the fuck would "Thinking" to become a Super Saiyan even BE a thing. It's second nature at this point, and in Battle of Gods he already was a Super Saiyan. This comment would make more sense if we followed what happened in the manga this whole time, but clearly they never cared about that since his name isn't Goku. What a coincidence that possibly Super Saiyan will be all that Gohan uses and Goku might not at all. I swear they won't use Gohan meaningfully, but they'll have characters steal his gimmicks. Can't sum it up better than this.



Why would Super Saiyan matter when his Ultimate State is beyond Super Saiyan 3 without any strain. So why even bother with Super Saiyan in general. I at least accept the fan reasoning for Battle of Gods that his Ultimate state makes him impure since he becomes more confident and battle savvy, but he ain't doing the god ritual. So why not use his actual power?

Then the 1000 mooks....the 1000 mooks all with power levels below Raditz. They can't be stronger than the new characters since they were in charge, and they still were only Zarbon level. It's 1000 ants vs a couple of titans. Who do you think is going to win? 1 titan can wipe them all out in seconds. Anyone remember how easy this was?

Spoiler:

All in 1 blow with hardly any effort. The Cell Junior were at least around Cell Games SSJ Vegeta tier. Now imagine those Cell Junior being literally millions of times weaker, but more numerous. Good lord it's a slaughter house on dull proportions. I say dull cause most of our heroes can casually wipe out 1000 weak Freeza minions with a single attack. They also can't even hurt our heroes with such low levels. Unless....did every mook get their own "happy fun time circle?" "Super Mook Gods?"

Just when I think things can't get any stupider, they always manage to find a way. My hype train, is a train wreck.

[TheGmGoken]

You're taking the line to seriously.... Its just a Toriyama/Staff slap to everyone than thinks he couldn't do it anymore.

Most probably don't THINK he can't but find it bullshit that he can. Don't get those confused. I also disagree about the staff part. Two years ago the fans made them correct Gohan to Mystic. They could have easily said the same thing.

Oh well. Not a big deal to me.

[Marco Polo]

I am more worried about the "1000-strong army" than the Super Saiyan subject. What in the world is happening with Son Gohan, though? Is his long-time without training affecting his mind?

Well if there are 1000 enemy soldiers flying around wrecking havoc on Earth, Gohan can't be everywhere dealing with each and everyone of them. I don't see a problem with this line. More help, with Piccolo and the other Z Fighters (hopefully Krillin, Trunks and co.) is welcome to stop them before Earthlings are hurt or killed.

[FortuneSSJ]

You're taking the line to seriously.... Its just a Toriyama/Staff slap to everyone that thinks he couldn't do it anymore.

He's not taking it seriously or non seriously, he's just saying it makes no sense, which is fact. Since Toriyama/Staff already made Gohan turn SSJ in Battle of Gods during the SSJ God summoning.

Yup and a lot of people thought it was a error. I think its pretty clear now it isn't, because he will tranform again.

[Dyno]

Well if there are 1000 enemy soldiers flying around wrecking havoc on Earth, Gohan can't be everywhere dealing with each and everyone of them. I don't see a problem with this line. More help, with Piccolo and the other Z Fighters (hopefully Krillin, Trunks and co.) is welcome to stop them before Earthlings are hurt or killed.

1000 enemies flying around whose power levels are weaker than Raditz's... Son Gohan killed Cell Juniors with one blow...
It is safe to say Son Gohan can be everywhere going by these facts. It is not the quantity of enemies, it is how he described them... "Strong".

[Kakarot9001]

It seems a bit odd that Cold is weaker than his son, but yeah... Makes sense, Trunks totally destroyed him, he could transform or whatever... Cold was an unnecessary character after all.

Cell Games Gohan was stronger than Goku.
Only because he's his father, doesn't mean the student can't surpass the master.

You don't understand what I mean... I mean that why would Freeza respect someone that is weaker than he? Freeza could simple kill Cold and take over of all his planets.

King Cold likely had transformations, as stated by Akira, he also possessed an abnormal power level and therefore he is a mutant in comparison to his race.

Wow. I'm surprised King Cold has become a mainly subject of conversations. I had never seen something like this for his character before.

I find this really disappointing, he was in danger against Trunks why he didn't transform for god sake?

Personally I can't see Goku getting weaker, and everything Toriyama has said regarding Goku and his God powers has never hinted at him losing power. Beerus even said Gokus latent power is immeasurable, so he won't get weaker. IMO he's going to be stronger than Beerus in base in the long run.

The Hell that Freeza and Cell were in is totally different than the one shown in the manga for this movie. Also I can't see Goku in GT beating this Freeza in base since he's only around SSJ3 level, unless you think that Freeza will lose this new power and form?
Also on the subject of power, since Beerus is the "strongest in the history of Z" he's above Vegetto who was stated in a GT guide to be as strong as a SSJ4 (well something to that effect ) if Goku gets stronger than that it really won't work.

I didn't say he would get weaker but is not confirmed that he will maintain this power forever in his base state like God form could disappear I don't see why not his base form could get a slowly decrease.

Why couldn't exist two Hells? I don't see a problem with that, a private Hell for Freeza and others and a Hell for all... All that stuff that Gero and Myuu did in Super 17 Saga could destroy this balance and cause the input to these portals. I don't think Freeza will lose power, I think he will be something around he will be in this movie and were in GT.

[Marco Polo]

Well if there are 1000 enemy soldiers flying around wrecking havoc on Earth, Gohan can't be everywhere dealing with each and everyone of them. I don't see a problem with this line. More help, with Piccolo and the other Z Fighters (hopefully Krillin, Trunks and co.) is welcome to stop them before Earthlings are hurt or killed.

1000 enemies flying around whose power levels are weaker than Raditz's... Son Gohan killed Cell Juniors with one blow...
It is safe to say Son Gohan can be everywhere going by these facts. It is not the quantity of enemies, it is how he described them... "Strong".

Cell Juniors were all in one place in the middle of the desert. Frieza's army judging from the leaked pages look like they'll spread everywhere they can and are obviously out to destroy cities and kill people rather than stay in the middle of a desert. Obviously Gohan can kill 1000 of them, but some help is always welcome to do it faster. Remember we are talking about the guy who couldn't find his battle dougi in his own house.

[FortuneSSJ]

1000 enemies flying around whose power levels are weaker than Raditz's... Son Gohan killed Cell Juniors with one blow...
It is safe to say Son Gohan can be everywhere going by these facts. It is not the quantity of enemies, it is how he described them... "Strong".

Compared to a normal earthling they are strong.
And since they are 1000, normal people will be in danger. Because Freesa soldiers compared to normal people are strong...

[dbzfan7]

This time, everyone will have to to turn out in full-force if we want to win against Freeza’s 1000-strong army!

Yeah...comment clearly seems to say they need their full power if they want to win against Freeza's army....even though a single person can do it with a wave of their hand.

[sintzu]

...no.

You can't argue facts.

[RandomGuy96]

"Let’s see… I think I can still become a Super Saiyan…"

"This time, everyone will have to to turn out in full-force if we want to win against Freeza’s 1000-strong army!
There are 55 days left, so I’ve got to do some serious training!"

Hahahaha. Wow.

[sintzu]

I swear they won't use Gohan meaningfully.

He doesn't really need to go Mystic to fight Freeza's men.

[dbzfan7]

I swear they won't use Gohan meaningfully.

He doesn't really need to go Mystic to fight Freeza's men.

*Clearly misses the point of the whole post.*

"Let’s see… I think I can still become a Super Saiyan…"

"This time, everyone will have to to turn out in full-force if we want to win against Freeza’s 1000-strong army!"

Hahahaha. Wow.

These have been the worst birthday gifts ever. Starts of shitty on the 20th...and still keeps getting worse.

[Cold Skin]

I think some of you guys are reading too much into it.
The blog acts like a next-episode preview, what characters say are comments that break the 4th wall as if the characters themselves could give their opinion about the writing, the future, etc...

So Gohan's "I think I can still turn Super Saiyan" is not forced to be in the movie itself, it's a remark aimed at fans to clarify this, as this blog is supposed to clarify and reveal bits and pieces before the actual movie.

So it's really the staff saying "don't be surprised if you see him be a Super Saiyan even out of the context of being 'contaminated' by the God ritual's Super Saiyan energy circling around, because he still can turn Super Saiyan and he will".

Watch out, it could also be a hint that his extended potential has been lost: he could actually imply "Okay, I lost the Elder Kai's extended powers... But let's see, at least I think I can still turn into a Super Saiyan". That could be why he says "let's see... I think I can still become a Super Saiyan."

[Kakarot9001]

I swear they won't use Gohan meaningfully.

He doesn't really need to go Mystic to fight Freeza's men.

"Mystic" is not a transformation it is his base state, dude

[shinmaru]

Then the 1000 mooks....the 1000 mooks all with power levels below Raditz. They can't be stronger than the new characters since they were in charge, and they still were only Zarbon level. It's 1000 ants vs a couple of titans. Who do you think is going to win? 1 titan can wipe them all out in seconds. Anyone remember how easy this was?


All in 1 blow with hardly any effort. The Cell Junior were at least around Cell Games SSJ Vegeta tier. Now imagine those Cell Junior being literally millions of times weaker, but more numerous. Good lord it's a slaughter house on dull proportions. I say dull cause most of our heroes can casually wipe out 1000 weak Freeza minions with a single attack. They also can't even hurt our heroes with such low levels. Unless....did every mook get their own "happy fun time circle?" "Super Mook Gods?"

You are saying it like the 1000 soldiers are all focused at Gohan and attacking him only. I think its different the soldiers are attacking earth, not Gohan, and they are fighting them off trying to protect the earth.Makes more sense.

[FortuneSSJ]

I think some of you guys are reading too much into it.

Thank you.