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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:37 pm

Saiga wrote:I don't remember Goku being significantly different in the manga compared to anime, so I guess it goes the same as the anime.
But Anime Freeza most likely have more power and more stamina. Seeing as he did far better against Goku than his manga counterpart did
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Post by Kakashi » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:30 pm

Vegeta Post Earth vs Kaioken x3 Goku
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Post by Saiga » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:35 pm

Vegeta. He doesn't have the strain Goku does.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:52 pm

Yeah Vegeta takes this.

Piccolo (Post Kaiosama) vs Krillin (Trunks Saga).
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Post by Saiga » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:53 pm

Zombie wrote:Yeah Vegeta takes this.

Piccolo (Post Kaiosama) vs Krillin (Trunks Saga).
Kuririn one-shots.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:53 pm

Zombie wrote:Yeah Vegeta takes this.

Piccolo (Post Kaiosama) vs Krillin (Trunks Saga).
I think Krillin stomps.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:58 pm

Anime Mystic-Namek-Goten-Trunks Boo vs Manga Vegetto.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:00 pm

Really? Damn I have Krillin = to Piccolo there, 300K.

How much do you guys have them in those instances?
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Post by Kakashi » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:00 pm

Vegeta is slightly weaker though but I agree
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Post by Kakashi » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:02 pm

Zombie wrote:Really? Damn I have Krillin = to Piccolo there, 300K.

How much do you guys have them in those instances?
Piccolo is nowhere near this level. Frieza might have been less than 300,00 while beating Nail. Ginyu's level makes more sense IMO
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:02 pm

Zombie wrote:Really? Damn I have Krillin = to Piccolo there, 300K.

How much do you guys have them in those instances?
I don't do power levels but I don't have Piccolo super strong after Kaiosama. Just strong enough to impress Nail as the average Namkian was around 3k I think. So Krillin can take this during the Freeza fight.
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Post by Kakashi » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:04 pm

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Zombie wrote:Really? Damn I have Krillin = to Piccolo there, 300K.

How much do you guys have them in those instances?
I don't do power levels but I don't have Piccolo super strong after Kaiosama. Just strong enough to impress Nail as the average Namkian was around 3k I think. So Krillin can take this during the Freeza fight.
Piccolo is stronger than NIl and is said to be ale to beat Frieza if he fused with Kami
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:09 pm

Zombie wrote:Really? Damn I have Krillin = to Piccolo there, 300K.

How much do you guys have them in those instances?
Piccolo: 400,000

Krillin: 2.5 million
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:10 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Zombie wrote:Really? Damn I have Krillin = to Piccolo there, 300K.

How much do you guys have them in those instances?
Piccolo: 300,000

Krillin: 2.5 million
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:14 pm

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Zombie wrote:Really? Damn I have Krillin = to Piccolo there, 300K.

How much do you guys have them in those instances?
I don't do power levels but I don't have Piccolo super strong after Kaiosama. Just strong enough to impress Nail as the average Namkian was around 3k I think. So Krillin can take this during the Freeza fight.
Piccolo is stronger than NIl and is said to be ale to beat Freeza if he fused with Kami
Even if he's stronger. Doesn't change nothing. Nail was still impressed. And it was kinda obvious that Fused with Kami he can win against Freeza. Doesn't change anything as he didn't fused with Kami so his power with Kami fused ATM was irrelevant
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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:16 pm

2.5 mil. :shock:

How strong do you have Piccolo and Vegeta in the Trunks saga?
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:19 pm

Zombie wrote:2.5 mil. :shock:

How strong do you have Piccolo and Vegeta in the Trunks saga?
Piccolo 4 million, Vegeta 3.2 million.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:22 pm

Interesting, I just can't see the humans that strong.. Yet.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:27 pm

Zombie wrote:Interesting, I just can't see the humans that strong.. Yet.
I figure that if you're going to have them in the millions based on Piccolo's gains and Gero's comments anyway, like I do, you may as well have most of it come from King Kai or Guru rather than them magically getting better mountain training gains than the saiyans.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:30 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Zombie wrote:Really? Damn I have Krillin = to Piccolo there, 300K.

How much do you guys have them in those instances?
Piccolo: 400,000

Krillin: 2.5 million
How strong for Yamcha and Tenshinan, just curious?
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