jcogginsa wrote:I don't see Tenkaichi 3 being this high on the list. Don't get me wrong, I love it to death, but I don't think the TFS crew are as enthusiastic about it.
Well, it’s either in the top 3 or not on the list at all, and while that would be funny as hell if they didn’t even include it on the list, I don’t see it happening.
3. Legacy of Goku II/Buu's Fury (if they count them both under the same number)
2. Budokai Tenkaichi 3
1. Budokai 3.
Hmm... Let me see... I don't think Legacy of Goku/Buu's Fury was a game that good to be on ToP 3 so I think it maybe be:
3. Dragon Ball GT: Transformation Infinite World or Burst Limit
2. Budokai Tenkaichi 2
1. Budokai 3
I’ve never actually played Legacy of Goku 2/Buu’s Fury but I was just going off of the comments of how many people are expecting that game to be on the list. Even if they aren’t good enough to be top 3 though, they’re either top 3 or not on the list at all, which considering even Sagas made the list, that would be something else.
I can’t imagine them excluding either of these games though. Maybe they’ll have Budokai and Budokai Tenkaichi tied for 1st?
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Infinite World is the Budokai series. Burst Limit was under deliberation but ultimately didn't make the cut for the list for multiple reasons. (Largely, it too is kinda just... a worse Budokai. Unbalanced characters and a terrible assist system.)
Asura wrote:Seems strange to have something like Sagas on the list whilst excluding Burst Limit completely, but alright.
Looking forward to the top 3
We basically just consider Burst Limit a Budokai game with a fresh coat of paint, and not as good as the best of it's series.
The various wikis do the same, since it was made by Dimps & seemingly based on their Budokai engine, so I don't blame you. It's like saying the Evolution game isn't a Budokai game, even though it used the engine & visuals from Shin Budokai.
Which, speaking of by the way, tell Lani, Kirran, & Grant about playing Shin Budokai - Another Road in the future for the gaming channel. Kirran & Grant, maybe Lani too, will probably like its storyline better than Super's Future Trunks Arc, since it takes the same concept of Trunks coming back from his time & brings the main Z Fighters to his time to help take care of his timeline's[ version of a lot of the threats from after the Cell Saga.
The epic tale of how Sean Schemmel blocked me on Twitter:
I tagged him in a thread explaining how his performance wasn't rerecorded when FUNi were redoing parts of the early Z dub for the Orange Bricks.
He thought I was misrepresenting his work by saying he wasn't in something he was in.
I explained how that wasn't the situation & did a bit of a sarcastic kinda thing involving the rerecordings FUNi did for the Z dub to show how stupid that was.
He said they didn't record him & not use his recordings.
Blocked & he deleted his response tweets to me.
???
Profit...?
Asura wrote:Seems strange to have something like Sagas on the list whilst excluding Burst Limit completely, but alright.
Looking forward to the top 3
We basically just consider Burst Limit a Budokai game with a fresh coat of paint, and not as good as the best of it's series.
I think that sounds fair enough. I hope you mention it in the Budokai video when it comes up, otherwise I bet people are gonna be real upset and confused, haha.
Scsigs wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:
Asura wrote:Seems strange to have something like Sagas on the list whilst excluding Burst Limit completely, but alright.
Looking forward to the top 3
We basically just consider Burst Limit a Budokai game with a fresh coat of paint, and not as good as the best of it's series.
The various wikis do the same, since it was made by Dimps & seemingly based on their Budokai engine, so I don't blame you. It's like saying the Evolution game isn't a Budokai game, even though it used the engine & visuals from Shin Budokai.
Which, speaking of by the way, tell Lani, Kirran, & Grant about playing Shin Budokai - Another Road in the future for the gaming channel. Kirran & Grant, maybe Lani too, will probably like its storyline better than Super's Future Trunks Arc, since it takes the same concept of Trunks coming back from his time & brings the main Z Fighters to his time to help take care of his timeline's[ version of a lot of the threats from after the Cell Saga.
Oh yeah! I totally forgot about Shin Budokai Another Road. I never played it but I thought the story was neat, even though it 100% looks like a Budokai clone. Definitely fits along the lines of the what-ifs in Supersonic Warriors 2. Hopefully an honorable mention?
KaiserNeko wrote:
We basically just consider Burst Limit a Budokai game with a fresh coat of paint, and not as good as the best of it's series.
The various wikis do the same, since it was made by Dimps & seemingly based on their Budokai engine, so I don't blame you. It's like saying the Evolution game isn't a Budokai game, even though it used the engine & visuals from Shin Budokai.
Which, speaking of by the way, tell Lani, Kirran, & Grant about playing Shin Budokai - Another Road in the future for the gaming channel. Kirran & Grant, maybe Lani too, will probably like its storyline better than Super's Future Trunks Arc, since it takes the same concept of Trunks coming back from his time & brings the main Z Fighters to his time to help take care of his timeline's[ version of a lot of the threats from after the Cell Saga.
Oh yeah! I totally forgot about Shin Budokai Another Road. I never played it but I thought the story was neat, even though it 100% looks like a Budokai clone. Definitely fits along the lines of the what-ifs in Supersonic Warriors 2. Hopefully an honorable mention?
Another Road's story? You mean the rehash of the Buu Saga except everything's dumber because everyone's already been through this and knows what they're doing is stupid? And there's possessed minions who don't really have any dialogue or interaction. Hell, Future Trunks is really only in it for the first half an hour, as soon as he gets help from the other timeline he is practically cut from the story.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Kanassa wrote:Another Road's story? You mean the rehash of the Buu Saga except everything's dumber because everyone's already been through this and knows what they're doing is stupid? And there's possessed minions who don't really have any dialogue or interaction. Hell, Future Trunks is really only in it for the first half an hour, as soon as he gets help from the other timeline he is practically cut from the story.
To be fair, I never played the game myself, since I didn't grow up a Sony kid & didn't have a PSP. I only saw a bit of a let's play on YouTube a few years ago, so I didn't know he was only in it that long.
In terms of it rehashing the Buu Saga, I can see where you're coming from, but the fact that the Future Trunks Arc of Super addressed it too shows that both writing teams were thinking the same things. It's just that Another Road kinda got carried away from having any sense of logic to include some of the characters, specifically the movie characters, from the amount of it I saw. Xenoverse at least has the excuse that since they dealt with time travel from the realm of the Kais, I assume that's where Tokitoki & Conton City are, they have the excuse of being able to go to alternate timelines where the movies could've happened. What's Another Road's excuse. Then again, someone could make the argument for the other way around. In any case, I'd still love to see them play through it at some point. Maybe next DBcember.
The epic tale of how Sean Schemmel blocked me on Twitter:
I tagged him in a thread explaining how his performance wasn't rerecorded when FUNi were redoing parts of the early Z dub for the Orange Bricks.
He thought I was misrepresenting his work by saying he wasn't in something he was in.
I explained how that wasn't the situation & did a bit of a sarcastic kinda thing involving the rerecordings FUNi did for the Z dub to show how stupid that was.
He said they didn't record him & not use his recordings.
Blocked & he deleted his response tweets to me.
???
Profit...?
Scsigs wrote:In terms of it rehashing the Buu Saga, I can see where you're coming from, but the fact that the Future Trunks Arc of Super addressed it too shows that both writing teams were thinking the same things
When I say rehash, I don't mean the idea of exploring Buu's resurrection in Trunks's timeline, I mean plot points are repeated in the same way no matter how non-nonsensical it is. Like Vegeta giving his soul to Babidy AGAIN to fight Goku, which helps revives Buu, before Goku is knocked out and Vegeta dies fighting Buu. Which is why
have a hard time believing that this could be considered a better Trunks story than Super's arc. In Super, Vegeta showed his development and made it clear he was fighting for his Son. In Another Road Vegeta doesn't give a shit and is happy to fuck Trunks over to fight Goku despite getting over this the first time he did it. It's even worse a plot point here because he doesn't have the excuse of underestimating Buu.
And I don't see how this suggests the writers of the two products were thinking the same thing. In Super, the mention of the Buu arc was there to simply show that someone as competent as Trunks stops almost all of the saga from happening by just being logical about it.
One of the few moments where they change it up is with Babidy reading Piccolo's memories, realizing that Buu is gonna betray him and decides to go to Namek and use the Dragon Balls to control Buu. It doesn't last long and leads to one of the most frustrating levels in the game, but it's a nice deviation.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote:Really? This game sure was fun, but it was way too easy. I prefer Legacy of Goku II
The only way it was more easy than LOG2 is because the level cap was raised & grinding was made more manageable by way of weighted training clothes, plus the fact that you can allocate stats. Other than those, the games are very much the same. As far as I'm concerned though, Buu's Fury is the better game because it feels MORE like an action RPG than LOG2 did, though some of the things aren't really intuitive, like the allocation of stats & the weighted clothes, since I had no idea you could do that as a kid until I saw their playthrough.
The epic tale of how Sean Schemmel blocked me on Twitter:
I tagged him in a thread explaining how his performance wasn't rerecorded when FUNi were redoing parts of the early Z dub for the Orange Bricks.
He thought I was misrepresenting his work by saying he wasn't in something he was in.
I explained how that wasn't the situation & did a bit of a sarcastic kinda thing involving the rerecordings FUNi did for the Z dub to show how stupid that was.
He said they didn't record him & not use his recordings.
Blocked & he deleted his response tweets to me.
???
Profit...?
Sorry if this was asked before, and I know that Kaiser(?) said they wouldn't be dubbing Super, but have you guys ever thought about doing a movie dub of BoG in the future?
Also, did the thought of doing an episode or a movie that was a pure serious dub ever cross your guys' minds?
Asura wrote:Sorry if this was asked before, and I know that Kaiser(?) said they wouldn't be dubbing Super, but have you guys ever thought about doing a movie dub of BoG in the future?
Also, did the thought of doing an episode or a movie that was a pure serious dub ever cross your guys' minds?
Battle of Gods does count as a Z movie...
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Asura wrote:Sorry if this was asked before, and I know that Kaiser(?) said they wouldn't be dubbing Super, but have you guys ever thought about doing a movie dub of BoG in the future?
Also, did the thought of doing an episode or a movie that was a pure serious dub ever cross your guys' minds?
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Asura wrote:Sorry if this was asked before, and I know that Kaiser(?) said they wouldn't be dubbing Super, but have you guys ever thought about doing a movie dub of BoG in the future?
Also, did the thought of doing an episode or a movie that was a pure serious dub ever cross your guys' minds?
Battle of Gods does count as a Z movie...
It’s a Z movie and a Super arc so I guess it gets rather confusing between the two, and I think most people associate the likes of Beerus, Whis, and SSG with Super and not Z.
Noah wrote:
ShadowBardock89 wrote:There's also the 2008 Jump Special.
And Ressurection of 'F'
Well yeah but those two kind of... sucked in comparison to BoG.
