"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[irreality]

Yeah, I don't care about Bulma's statement. Forgetting a character seems like more of a big deal, especially with how they have been playing up V/B so much.

You can always explain Bulma's statement as: a) Bulma is using ridiculous hyperbole because she sometimes exaggerates or lies to make a point or b) Goku just hasn't "hung out" with them in a few years, since Bulma's birthday, but they have seen each other for adventures and emergencies.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The "ten years of peace" thing still works as far as I'm concerned. Future story arcs could easily change this, of course, but I think we're still good.

The events of the JUMP special lasted maybe... a couple hours? In-Universe?

The events of "Battle Of Gods" were wrapped up within a single afternoon. Same with "Resurrection F" (of course, as I said, Super could change this).

So that adds up to, like, one day of danger, total? That's a pretty good track record for ten years. I'm not going to go out of my way to defend some of Super's inconsistencies, but that's something that I truly don't think they've ruined yet.

I don't really think it matters how long the threat lasts, just that there is an actual threat the poses real danger. Otherwise, if that's the way you choose to look at it, then all the events before hand weren't much different. From the moment Goku went off with Bluma, the actual days the characters/world spends in danger barely make up a month. That's miniscule in the ~30 years between the first DB hunt and Beerus' arrival.

One may be able to argue that Beerus doesn't actually pose a threat and may not have actually destroyed the Earth (at least in BOG, Whis teases him with the thought that he always intended to spare them because the food was so good), but even though Freeza's destruction of Earth gets reverse, he still succeed in killing people by blowing up the Northern Capital upon his arrival. People died and Dragon Balls need to be used (though they should probably go for Namek's because most the people there probably already died from Buu and can't be revived). That's not really peaceful to me.

[LightBing]

I would really like a timeline for Super. It's crucial! We aren't even sure if they following the BoG line of 4 years or not. Let's see if the next episode with Pan's birth sheds some light.

[Kuririn Fan]

I would really like a timeline for Super. It's crucial! We aren't even sure if they following the BoG line of 4 years or not. Let's see if the next episode with Pan's birth sheds some light.

I'm pretty sure it's Age 778. There's no reason to change that.No matter what some people say,i'm 100% sure EoZ won't get changed. Toriyama said this new material takes place in the 10 year gap because in EoZ everyone is old.

[LightBing]

I would really like a timeline for Super. It's crucial! We aren't even sure if they following the BoG line of 4 years or not. Let's see if the next episode with Pan's birth sheds some light.

I'm pretty sure it's Age 778. There's no reason to change that.No matter what some people say,i'm 100% sure EoZ won't get changed. Toriyama said this new material takes place in the 10 year gap because in EoZ everyone is old.

Why didn't they said anything yet? Could they be trying to keep it in the dark, so they have the flexibility to mold it. Mr.Toriyama might have just wrote the Universe 6 arc, they don't know if he calls it quits or gains inspiration to write 3 more sagas.

[alakazam^]

I would really like a timeline for Super. It's crucial! We aren't even sure if they following the BoG line of 4 years or not. Let's see if the next episode with Pan's birth sheds some light.

I'm pretty sure it's Age 778. There's no reason to change that.No matter what some people say,i'm 100% sure EoZ won't get changed. Toriyama said this new material takes place in the 10 year gap because in EoZ everyone is old.

Did he say that, though? If I rememer right, his complaint of them being old is an old one and doesn't necessarily mean that the events of the last chapters still happen that way. Well, in-universe, the 28th Tenkaichi Budoukai and Oob having been born still happen anyway, things might just take a different turn. I'd really like for Super to take place earlier than what Kami to Kami suggests.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I mean, they already contradicted the ending by not having it be 10 years of peace.

Well, it was called a "fragile peace" in Super's announcement, so technically, it's not contradicted. I guess the fact that the incidents were either insignificant (JSAT), or really small (BoG, FnF), and the U6 arc will apparently take place outside of Earth, the peace hasn't been broken.

[alakazam^]

I could agree with Kami to Kami preserving the peace but I think it's really hard arguing the same with Fukkatsu no F. Even if the Earth's destruction was reversed, it only happened because of Whis being there. Any other way and they'd be in big trouble.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I could agree with Kami to Kami preserving the peace but I think it's really hard arguing the same with Fukkatsu no F. Even if the Earth's destruction was reversed, it only happened because of Whis being there. Any other way and they'd be in big trouble.

The whole incident still happened within what, an hour? It was a really small incident, and the Earth's destruction was made so that it never happened, and the city that was destroyed was restored after the fight.

[Captain Space]

And the entire Buu arc took place over two days and everything was restored (hell, Goku was alive afterwards so it was better than restored), so that was barely any more significant than RF in that sense. But it was still a big deal.

[Makai]

And the entire Buu arc took place over two days and everything was restored (hell, Goku was alive afterwards so it was better than restored), so that was barely any more significant than RF in that sense. But it was still a big deal.

Buu was a way bigger threat than Frieza was in RF. The entire planet became extinct and then was blown up, along numerous other unknown planets in the galaxy by kid buu, and even other world was threatened by him. There was no Whis to rewind time, so if Buu won that was it for them.
In RF, it doesn't even seem like they were taking the fight with him that seriously, and like was said, if Goku and Vegeta worked together they could've easily defeated him.

[Captain Space]

Buu was a way bigger threat than Freeza was in RF. The entire planet became extinct and then was blown up, along numerous other unknown planets in the galaxy by kid buu, and even other world was threatened by him. There was no Whis to rewind time, so if Buu won that was it for them.
In RF, it doesn't even seem like they were taking the fight with him that seriously, and like was said, if Goku and Vegeta worked together they could've easily defeated him.

Same thing happened with Earth in RF, it was just quicker. And Buu destroying other planets and being a threat to the afterlife was only brought up in the anime, not even mentioned in the manga if I recall correctly.

Was Freeza less of a threat? Sure. But it was still a significant event and just as much a disruption of the peace.

[FortuneSSJ]

There's no reason to think they care about EOZ at this point. The other way around is likely though, because of Super episode 1/2 events and character ages.
The 10 years of peace part still works. BOG and ROF happened in one day. Two serious days in 10 years don't make it less peaceful.

[Zephyr]

Two serious days in 10 years don't make it less peaceful.

The Buu arc was only two days or so as well. Why then wouldn't they have mentioned the 17 years of peace experienced since the Cell arc? 4 serious days wouldn't make it less peaceful, following this reasoning.

[FortuneSSJ]

The Buu arc was only two days or so as well. Why then wouldn't they have mentioned the 17 years of peace experienced since the Cell arc? 4 serious days wouldn't make it less peaceful, following this reasoning.

Because Buu arc still happened and they wouldn't ignore it. BOG and ROF didn't exist back then, if they had. they would mentioned them too.
The point is, If someone wants to fit Super between Buu and EOZ, that statement should be their smallest concern.

[nato25]

Bluma only gets pregnant with her sometime during the year Resurrection "F" should take place on the timeline (AGE 779). So unless there is another timeskip (to AGE 780) after Golden Freeza to get us into the Champa/Universe 6/Super Dragon Balls material, she may not show up at all.

What if they forget about her and about Bulma statement in EoZ?

You would think they would have heavily researched the 3 episode or so that take place after the time skip and probably the 3 after the defeat of buu. But who knows honestly if I was going to make a series fitting in this time frame I would have studied those episodes like crazy.

[Kuririn Fan]

They did the 10 years after thing in Kai just before Super started, so i think they know that. 5 years thing is easy not to ruin, the longest arc happened in 2 days. Also, it is nowhere said that all 10 years were peaceful, just lately, at least those five years. But then again there were only 2 days of threat (muuuuuch less dangerous than Boo arc), and an arc that takes place in another universe . You can say whatever you like, but i'm 100% sure the EoZ won't be changed. Remember my words when the time comes

[Pannaliciour]

Who is following The Flash? In season 2 episode 2 there is, like dragon ball super, also a parallel/mirror/ universum. They explain it very well.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Who is following The Flash? In season 2 episode 2 there is, like dragon ball super, also a parallel/mirror/ universum. They explain it very well.

We still don't know whether Universe 6 is a parallel of Universe 7. All we know is it has or had an Earth. And the fact that Champa and Vados aren't Universe 6 versions of Beerus and Whis but siblings. Hopefully we get more answers in the next chapter.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

1-16 is Battle of Gods and 17 is the start of Resurrection F.