The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:02 am

Rocketman wrote:Impossible situation. Yamcha has no dick.
...Scissoring?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:46 am

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Rocketman wrote:Impossible situation. Yamcha has no dick.
...Scissoring?
Maybe he had a fake one?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Godo » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:14 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Herms wrote:Tenshinhan's BP at the start of the Saiyan arc is 250.

Farmer With a Shotgun's BP is 5.

The Super Saiyan transformation multiplies one's BP x50.

5x50=250.

So...

Tenshinhan versus Super Saiyan Farmer With a Shotgun.
Is the shotgun 50x stronger than a normal shotgun?
I believe that it would have to be a stronger shotgun.
The shotgun is an extension of the man himself, much like a third arm of his. That holds true to such an extent that it should be affected by his bodily ki.
If this is the case, Farmer could spam shots at Tenshinhan as a distraction then punch his shiny and bald head in like a steam train vs. a watermelon.
Kid Buu wrote:Bulma Vs. Chichi, Bulma's got a rage boost because she found out the woman Yamcha had an affair with was Chichi.
Even if a rage boost made Bulma 10 times stronger, she would lose to Chichi (if we assume Bulma is 5 and Chichi is 139).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:16 pm

Godo wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Herms wrote:Tenshinhan's BP at the start of the Saiyan arc is 250.

Farmer With a Shotgun's BP is 5.

The Super Saiyan transformation multiplies one's BP x50.

5x50=250.

So...

Tenshinhan versus Super Saiyan Farmer With a Shotgun.
Is the shotgun 50x stronger than a normal shotgun?
I believe that it would have to be a stronger shotgun.
The shotgun is an extension of the man himself, much like a third arm of his. That holds true to such an extent that it should be affected by his bodily ki.
If this is the case, Farmer could spam shots at Tenshinhan as a distraction then punch his shiny and bald head in like a steam train vs. a watermelon.
Didn't you make the Farmer w/Shotgun power level list? If so, I suppose that would make you the authority on the matter.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:21 pm

Yamcha & Bulma Vs. Master Roshi. 21st Budokai.

This time around Yamcha knows Chun is 100% Roshi so he has Bulma take her top off as a distraction, does the strategy work? Keep in mind Bulma's boobs have given Yamcha a victory here, so the jobber rule doesn't apply.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:23 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Yamcha & Bulma Vs. Master Roshi. 21st Budokai.

This time around Yamcha knows Chun is 100% Roshi so he has Bulma take her top off as a distraction, does the strategy work? Keep in mind Bulma's boobs have given Yamcha a victory here, so the jobber rule doesn't apply.
Roshi starts flailing around, and accidentally knocks Yamcha out of bounds.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:24 pm

On a more serious note, how would Yamcha and Kuririn faired against Chun at the 22nd Budokai?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Strife1 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:15 pm

Kid Buu wrote:On a more serious note, how would Yamcha and Kuririn faired against Chun at the 22nd Budokai?
It would've been similar to Yamcha vs. Shen. Yamcha would've put up a seemingly good fight, but in the end, Chun would defeat him. Kuririn might've done almost as well as Goku did in the Budokai before. I see it as a mirror to the Goku vs. Tenshinhan match in the 23rd Budokai, with Chun holding back.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:Evidence?

Did you mean to say "bear hug", like he did with Gohan?
Bojack is Cell's counterpart, his base state should be ahead of SSjin Gohan
Again, evidence?
I wouldn't put him on Par with Cell. Bojack's group stick together, so they were able to easily defeat Gohan. Gohan put up a better fight than the other Z-Senshi, but he was still helpless to stop them. I put FP Bojack Somewhere in between FP Cell and Ssj Gohan. Although Goku had achieved the same form as Gohan during the Buu Saga, he probably wouldn't have been able to defeat Dabra, who was compared to Cell. Goku takes this with his various techniques, but Bojack is superior to him in terms of brute strength and durability.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:17 pm

Yamcha vs life
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:27 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Yamcha vs life
King Emna wins this.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:26 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Yamcha vs life
He gets screwed.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:29 am

Strife1 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:On a more serious note, how would Yamcha and Kuririn faired against Chun at the 22nd Budokai?
It would've been similar to Yamcha vs. Shen. Yamcha would've put up a seemingly good fight, but in the end, Chun would defeat him. Kuririn might've done almost as well as Goku did in the Budokai before. I see it as a mirror to the Goku vs. Tenshinhan match in the 23rd Budokai, with Chun holding back.
I skimmed through the 22nd Budokai to examine, Kuririn actually says he and Yamcha are around the same skill, so:

Kuririn Vs. Yamcha 22nd Budokai: Equal Power Levels

Scenarios:
1.) Yamcha loses because he is Yamcha
2.) Kuririn loses because he is Kuririn
3.) Draw, they both lose because they are Yamcha and Kuririn
4.) Yamcha loses, but Kuririn dies.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:34 am

Yamcha attempts to fight Krillin, but trips and breaks his neck. Krillin then goes off to get some babes.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:36 am

Majin Vegeta Vs. SS2 Goku if the fight continued, no SSJ3.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:39 am

Kid Buu wrote:Majin Vegeta Vs. SS2 Goku if the fight continued, no SSJ3.
I'm actually going with Vegeta for this one. He was waaaaay more motivated, and his ruthlessness would give him the edge, IMO.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:40 am

Kid Buu wrote:Majin Vegeta Vs. SS2 Goku if the fight continued, no SSJ3.
Goku's techniques are far superior, and his Instant Transmission should give him a decisive mobility advantage.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Kid Buu » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:41 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Majin Vegeta Vs. SS2 Goku if the fight continued, no SSJ3.
Goku's techniques are far superior, and his Instant Transmission should give him a decisive mobility advantage.
But would he...

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...if he lost, and found out Goku was holding-back?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:42 am

Kid Buu wrote:Majin Vegeta Vs. SS2 Goku if the fight continued, no SSJ3.
Draw. I can ser Vegeta being ruthless and Goju using skill attacks. So...they Ko each other

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:43 am

Kid Buu wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Majin Vegeta Vs. SS2 Goku if the fight continued, no SSJ3.
Goku's techniques are far superior, and his Instant Transmission should give him a decisive mobility advantage.
But would he...

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...if he lost, and found out Goku was holding-back?
Well of course. Isn't that pretty much what he did in the Janemba movie anyway?
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:45 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote: But would he...

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...if he lost, and found out Goku was holding-back?
Well of course. Isn't that pretty much what he did in the Janemba movie anyway?
Against Freeza, against Cell, against Broly, against Janemba. Yeah quite a lot.
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