The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:15 am

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Saiga wrote:Yeah, that's the point. It isn't given much attention, though.
That seems to be Chiaotzu's theme as the story goes on :P
More like anyone besides Goku and Vegeta.
Nah, everyone else had at least one moment to shine.
Krillin had his own little mini-arc during the Cell Arc.
Tien delayed Cell and saved Dende from Buu.
Piccolo got to play uncle.
Yamcha suffered from a bad case of hole-in-the-chest.
Yajirobe took down Oozaru Vegeta, and was the Senzu Bean delivery guy.
Popo came up with the idea for Goten and Trunks to fuse.


Chiaotzu....where was he after the 3 year timeskip again? All I can remember is that he was Roshi's cook in some filler episode.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:36 am

Well, in Yamcha's case, he became the only person in history to recover from having a massive hole in the chest.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:39 am

Kid Buu wrote:Well, in Yamcha's case, he became the only person in history to recover from having a massive hole in the chest.
Goku got over that after the 23rd Budokai, and Piccolo got over that after getting back from Namek.
If you count being resurrected, so did Vegeta when he got wished back to life after Freeza killed him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:41 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Well, in Yamcha's case, he became the only person in history to recover from having a massive hole in the chest.
Goku got over that after the 23rd Budokai, and Piccolo got over that after getting back from Namek.
If you count being resurrected, so did Vegeta when he got wished back to life after Freeza killed him.
Goku was shot in the shoulder. It looked to be the same with Piccolo.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:44 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Well, in Yamcha's case, he became the only person in history to recover from having a massive hole in the chest.
Goku got over that after the 23rd Budokai, and Piccolo got over that after getting back from Namek.
If you count being resurrected, so did Vegeta when he got wished back to life after Freeza killed him.
They're not human though, bullets bounce off Goku's head in Episode 1 of DB.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:45 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
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Kid Buu wrote:Well, in Yamcha's case, he became the only person in history to recover from having a massive hole in the chest.
Goku got over that after the 23rd Budokai, and Piccolo got over that after getting back from Namek.
If you count being resurrected, so did Vegeta when he got wished back to life after Freeza killed him.
Goku was shot in the shoulder. It looked to be the same with Piccolo.
I dunno. Looking at Goku's, it looks like the upper chest to me.

Piccolo definitely got hit in the chest in the manga. Are you looking at the anime?

Edit: Nope. Piccolo got hit in the chest in the anime too. Just off the middle of the pectoral.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:47 am

Vegeta got over that when Dende healed him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:51 am

Saiga wrote:Vegeta got over that when Dende healed him.
Oh yeah. That was a different hole in the chest though; I had forgotten about that one. I was talking about when Freeza killed him :P
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Kid Buu wrote:Well, in Yamcha's case, he became the only person in history to recover from having a massive hole in the chest.
Goku got over that after the 23rd Budokai, and Piccolo got over that after getting back from Namek.
If you count being resurrected, so did Vegeta when he got wished back to life after Freeza killed him.
They're not human though, bullets bounce off Goku's head in Episode 1 of DB.
I beg to differ. If Ginyu is a "human," then so are the Saiyans. :P
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:51 am

Looking at Goku's, it looks like the upper chest to me.

Piccolo definitely got hit in the chest in the manga. Are you looking at the anime?

Edit: Nope. Piccolo got hit in the chest in the anime too. Just off the middle of the pectoral.
Ah, my mistake. But I'm fairly sure Goku got hit in the shoulder. Piccolo missed his vital organs. All of them!
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:52 am

Post Namek:

Goku Vs. Vegeta

In a "who does more stupid shit" contest.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:59 am

Kid Buu wrote:Post Namek:

Goku Vs. Vegeta

In a "who does more stupid shit" contest.
Let's see here....

Goku
-Doesn't investigate this huge larger than Freeza ki at all that he feels on Earth.
-Lets Gero live
-Gives Cell a senzu
-Doesn't tell Gohan about his plan.
-Goes along with Kaioshin's dumbass plan; Vegeta at least had the sense to say "screw 'em", even if he didn't do anything about it.
-Stopped Vegeta from intervening against Dabra.
-Willingly fought Vegeta, leading to Buu's release.
-Held back massively on Vegeta.
-Didn't finish off Fatso when he had the chance.
-Refused to use Potara on Buu.
-Went along with Vegeta's stupid as hell Genki Dama plan.
-Refused to launch the Genki Dama while Vegeta was in the way.

Vegeta
-Lets Gero live
-Lets the androids be released
-Helps Cell become perfect.
-Sells his soul to Babidi, and demands to fight Goku, because he's a crybaby.
-Punches out Goku to fight Buu alone. Fails badly.
-Recommends having SS3 Goku fight Super Buu, only to be shot down because that's a terrible plan.
-Doesn't use Potara against Buuhan until Goku specifically tells him that Trunks and Bulma were eaten.
-Refuses to use Potara against Pure Buu.
-Comes up with the dumbest plan ever to defeat Pure Buu.

While overall Goku has done more stupid shit, a lot of it consists of "not objecting to Vegeta's stupid shit" (Genki Dama plan, not using Potara vs Pure Buu, fighting Majin Vegeta) and Vegeta has screwed up more in terms of helping the villains; he was instrumental in the success of Gero, Cell, and Buu, while Goku was only vital to the success of Buu. Sorry Vegeta, it looks like Goku's got you beat in the intelligence department.

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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Kid Buu » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:01 am

That maybe the best post on the entire forum, if I could sig that, I would.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:02 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Looking at Goku's, it looks like the upper chest to me.

Piccolo definitely got hit in the chest in the manga. Are you looking at the anime?

Edit: Nope. Piccolo got hit in the chest in the anime too. Just off the middle of the pectoral.
Ah, my mistake. But I'm fairly sure Goku got hit in the shoulder. Piccolo missed his vital organs. All of them!
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This was the only halfway decent picture I could find. Personally, I'd consider this a chest wound. A shoulder wound would be higher up, I think. Although judging by the URL of this picture, the guy who posted it seems to disagree.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:37 pm

Mr Satan vs That Ninja Guy(The one Goku put a power pole in his ass)

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Post by ZombieVito » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:44 pm

Mister Satan gets killed.

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Post by Kakashi » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:27 pm

BOD Goku > Satan

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:30 pm

Kakashi wrote:BOD Goku > Satan
Says what? Back up your statements. I don't see how it's that hard. I'd say this one's debatable anyway.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:36 pm

Goku- 260

Yamcha- ~177


Yamcha gets stomped. There's a shocker.
That maybe the best post on the entire forum, if I could sig that, I would.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kakashi » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:38 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Kakashi wrote:BOD Goku > Satan
Says what? Back up your statements. I don't see how it's that hard. I'd say this one's debatable anyway.
Goku survived bullets from Bulma. Satan would get killed

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:39 pm

Kakashi wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Kakashi wrote:BOD Goku > Satan
Says what? Back up your statements. I don't see how it's that hard. I'd say this one's debatable anyway.
Goku survived bullets from Bulma. Satan would get killed
Satan survived being pimp slapped into a mountain by Cell. Goku would have been killed.
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