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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:29 am

Vegeta having not already finished this fight with SS1 is already bullshit enough. :roll:
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:56 am

Saiga wrote:Vegeta having not already finished this fight with SS1 is already bullshit enough. :roll:
I have no idea why you have such a problem with this fight. lol I mean, even Mr. Satan could "beat up" a SS2 if the Saiyan was basically letting him. Vegeta isn't exactly the same selfish bastard he used to be. This last page clearly shows he was just playing around, seeing what his "future" son had accomplished since he last saw him. Now that he's seen what Trunks can do, he's had enough and is ready to finish the fight.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:01 am

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Saiga wrote:Vegeta having not already finished this fight with SS1 is already bullshit enough. :roll:
I have no idea why you have such a problem with this fight. lol I mean, even Mr. Satan could "beat up" a SS2 if the Saiyan was basically letting him. Vegeta isn't exactly the same selfish bastard he used to be. This last page clearly shows he was just playing around, seeing what his "future" son had accomplished since he last saw him. Now that he's seen what Trunks can do, he's had enough and is ready to finish the fight.
Vegeta's reactions throughout the whole fight seem to suggest that he's not letting himself get hit or anything like that.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:51 am

hulkty wrote:We all already know Vegeta wins, but I think one of the following will happen now:
1. Vegeta stops going easy and easily wins.
2. They continue to have a good fight.
3. Vegeta goes SSj3.
4. Trunks goes SSj2.
5. Trunks skips SSj2 like Gotenks and goes straight to SSj3 along with Vegeta and they have a good fight.
Never going to happen. It is confirmed by Vegeta in DBM Novel that he doesn't even want to reach SS3 because of the rapid energy consumption. Trunks also confirmed in the beginning of this fight that he didn't have time for training to reach SS2, and of course not even SS3.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hleV » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:24 am

Salagir can't draw Vegeta.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:40 am

Saiga wrote:Vegeta's reactions throughout the whole fight seem to suggest that he's not letting himself get hit or anything like that.
And I disagree. Other than his surprise at what Trunks is doing with the form, he's had the same reactions as other fighters in the series who have done the exact same thing. I haven't seen a panel yet that implies Vegeta was really taking the fight seriously, up until the last one on the recent page anyway. I mean, yeah, he's getting bounced around and a little scuffed up, but his latest reaction doesn't seem like he's worried in the least and he's not even sweating, which Gogeta Jr. only seems to use for characters that are REALLY exerting themselves or stressing the situation they aren't in control of. (Apparently normal fighting doesn't cause perspiration in DBM, or at least in the most recent pages. I only checked for about 40 or so back. xD).
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:53 am

hleV wrote:Salagir can't draw Vegeta.
What are you talking about? Gogeta Jr. draws, not Salagir.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hleV » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:28 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
hleV wrote:Salagir can't draw Vegeta.
What are you talking about? Gogeta Jr. draws, not Salagir.
Gogeta Jr. can't draw Vegeta.

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Post by rereboy » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:04 am

hleV wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
hleV wrote:Salagir can't draw Vegeta.
What are you talking about? Gogeta Jr. draws, not Salagir.
Gogeta Jr. can't draw Vegeta.
Of course he can :roll: . He has done it pretty much flawlessly multiples times so far.

Sometimes he just doesn't draw as well as he has done in the past for some reason. Probably because of lack of time.

Btw, there's a upcoming page where the quality of the drawings decreases significantly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hleV » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:18 am

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hleV wrote: Gogeta Jr. can't draw Vegeta.
Of course he can :roll: . He has done it pretty much flawlessly multiples times so far.
Huh? Where? Because everytime I look at how he draws Vegeta, it's horrible. His face, at least.

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Post by rereboy » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:39 am

hleV wrote:
rereboy wrote:
hleV wrote: Gogeta Jr. can't draw Vegeta.
Of course he can :roll: . He has done it pretty much flawlessly multiples times so far.
Huh? Where? Because everytime I look at how he draws Vegeta, it's horrible. His face, at least.
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This is the first page I saw with Vegeta when looking for it to show you. He is drawn pretty well most of the time.

Also, there are several panels where Vegeta is drawn nicely even in the current chapter. So... "everytime I look at how he draws Vegeta, it's horrible" is a big exaggeration, IMO.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:45 pm

I think Gogeta Jr. draws Vegeta very well, especially in the recent page. Sometimes his Goku could be a little off but most of the male characters are drawn pretty well.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hleV » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:29 pm

rereboy wrote:
hleV wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Of course he can :roll: . He has done it pretty much flawlessly multiples times so far.
Huh? Where? Because everytime I look at how he draws Vegeta, it's horrible. His face, at least.
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This is the first page I saw with Vegeta when looking for it to show you. He is drawn pretty well most of the time.

Also, there are several panels where Vegeta is drawn nicely even in the current chapter. So... "everytime I look at how he draws Vegeta, it's horrible" is a big exaggeration, IMO.
Funny for you to say that, because only the Vegeta on the left side has his face drawn well. Okay, maybe it's not about drawing "well", but drawing "close to Toriyama's style". It's nothing like it most of the time, IMHO.

And the center Vegeta has camel toe. What the fuck.

EDIT: Anyway, nevermind. I guess you just can't see the quite big difference. I draw Vegeta a lot myself, so I kinda know.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:32 pm

hleV wrote:And the center Vegeta has camel toe. What the fuck.
Pretty sure that's a leg line. Or, at least it's intended to be one. Does go a little too far up though.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:35 pm

hleV wrote:And the center Vegeta has camel toe. What the fuck.
Can't unsee.

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Post by TonyTheTiger » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:15 pm

Guess that explains why he wasn't bothered upon being turned into a woman.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:28 pm

hleV wrote:Okay, maybe it's not about drawing "well", but drawing "close to Toriyama's style". It's nothing like it most of the time, IMHO.
There you go. I think that is your problem with it, but as even you admit, that has nothing to do with drawing well, it only has to do with how well he can copy Toriyama's style.

But even in this, you exaggerate. "Nothing like it most of the time". Really? Of course there are differences between them. Its noticeable. But a style that is nothing like it? Can't agree with that. Nothing like it is for example what we might say about some of the styles they used in the specials chapters (disregarding the overall quality of the drawings). Some of them were a pretty different style, even though there are styles of drawing out there that are even less like Toriyama's of course. Gogeta Jr.'s style however is pretty close, even though it has its own twists into it.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Attitudefan » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:46 pm

I think DBM' Vegeta is too tall and his hairline is too small. Vegeta has a more 'condensed' face unlike the other characters.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:53 pm

Those drawings aren't from Toriyama though. I'm not disagreeing with what you said, I'm just saying that there's also a difference between Toriyama and who drew the anime and such.

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Post by Attitudefan » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:11 pm

That's the whole point. The animators were able to capture Vegeta like Toriyama

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