The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[RandomGuy96]

Howzabout, Pure Buu (SSJ3 Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed) vs. Super Buu (SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta absorbed)

Well due to my... 'unique' look on Gotenks in general, Pure Buu would win. All other things would be close to equal (Goku really brings nothing to the table) and he'd have a slight power advantage. Not to mention that absorbing Vegeta and Goku should drop Super Buu's intelligence massively, while Pure Buu's will rise or remain the same.

Pure Buutenks- 113

Super Buuku- 102

[TheGmGoken]

Howzabout, Pure Buu (SSJ3 Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed) vs. Super Buu (SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta absorbed)

FUCK! Really. This a tough one.

SSj3Gotenks can give Pure Boo a much needed Boost but SuperBoo is already strong. And Gotenks can defuse. So...... I give it to SuperBoo.

[RandomGuy96]

Oh right, I forgot about that. Super Buu would be smart enough to blow himself up and hide out for 30 minutes. Or teleport to another planet and hide out for 30 minutes.

Changing my answer to Super Buuku. You effectively can't beat Super Buu if you're dependent on a time limit in any way.

[Kamiccolo9]

Oh right, I forgot about that. Super Buu would be smart enough to blow himself up and hide out for 30 minutes. Or teleport to another planet and hide out for 30 minutes.

Changing my answer to Super Buuku.

Pure Buu would have Piccolo's intelligence though, and would also be capable of teleporting after seeing Super Buu do it. Or he could just blow up the planet.

[RandomGuy96]

Pure Buu would have Piccolo's intelligence

...I'm not sure how that's supposed to be a point in his favor...

and would also be capable of teleporting after seeing Super Buu do it. Or he could just blow up the planet.

But how would he know to teleport to the exact same place as Super Buu? Also, Super Buu can still blow himself up and hide his ki for 30 minutes, like he did when Gohan was looking for him. Seems pretty foolproof.

I'm 99% sure this is filler, but Pure Buu couldn't even find Goku and Vegeta when they hid. He had to resort to tearing up the universe until they came out and found him.

[TheGmGoken]

Oh right, I forgot about that. Super Buu would be smart enough to blow himself up and hide out for 30 minutes. Or teleport to another planet and hide out for 30 minutes.

Changing my answer to Super Buuku.

Pure Buu would have Piccolo's intelligence though, and would also be capable of teleporting after seeing Super Buu do it. Or he could just blow up the planet.

Who's the better and smarter fighter? Goku or Piccolo? Since Pure Boo got Piccolo and Super Boo got Goku. These two play a MAJOR factor. I mean Super Boo would get Shudokan Ido and Goku's skill. Now Pure Boo would just be smart(Can't picture that).

[RandomGuy96]

Not likely. Buff Buu absorbed a presuambly very wise god, but he was nothing more than a feral berserker. And again, no amount of intelligence would help him find a Super Buu who was sufficiently devoted to hiding.

[Kid Buu]

Not likely. Buff Buu absorbed a presuambly very wise god, but he was nothing more than a feral berserker. And again, no amount of intelligence would help him find a Super Buu who was sufficiently devoted to hiding.

This Super Buu has both Goku AND Vegeta in him though, his arrogance will be over 9000.

[RandomGuy96]

He was still able to maintain some measurement of competency and guile with Goten and Trunks absorbed, so I doubt Goku and Vegeta will be that much of a hindrance. The critical point where Buu stops being smart seems to be 3-4 dumb people, 2 and he should still be fine.

[Friezacooler]

Hetappi and Toribot vs 12 gods of destruction vs Grand Kai and SSj God Goku after training.

[Draken]

Toribot solos before the fight starts.

[Kamiccolo9]

Who is Hetappi?

[Kakashi]

Saiyan Saga Tenshinhan vs Seripa

[RandomGuy96]

Saiyan Saga Tenshinhan vs Seripa

If Raditz at 1,500 was representative of a typical saiyan, I figure that Seripa must be far above that to be considered unusually strong for a low class. She's probably weaker than Nappa though, so 2,400-ish? Enough to easily beat Ten unless she gets arrogant and tries to tank a Kikoho. Which can happen, since Ten can always fool her by hiding his ki.

[Kakashi]

Saiyan Saga Tenshinhan vs Seripa

If Raditz at 1,500 was representative of a typical saiyan, I figure that Seripa must be far above that to be considered unusually strong for a low class. She's probably weaker than Nappa though, so 2,400-ish? Enough to easily beat Ten unless she gets arrogant and tries to tank a Kikoho. Which can happen, since Ten can always fool her by hiding his ki.

Raditz is the lowest level of a saiyan IMO. I disagree he is 1,500. He is stated in the Manga and Toriyama to be slightly superior to a Saibaman

Was it stated that Bardock's crew have a high power for low class Saiyans? I have Selypa at 1,800 making her barely weaker than Tenshinhan

[Draken]

Saiyan Saga Tenshinhan vs Seripa

If Raditz at 1,500 was representative of a typical saiyan, I figure that Seripa must be far above that to be considered unusually strong for a low class. She's probably weaker than Nappa though, so 2,400-ish? Enough to easily beat Ten unless she gets arrogant and tries to tank a Kikoho. Which can happen, since Ten can always fool her by hiding his ki.

Raditz is the lowest level of a saiyan IMO. I disagree he is 1,500. He is stated in the Manga and Toriyama to be slightly superior to a Saibaman

Was it stated that Bardock's crew have a high power for low class Saiyans? I have Selypa at 1,800 making her barely weaker than Tenshinhan

Yea their entire crew was becoming strong for low class scum, which made them a target.

[Kakashi]

Yea their entire crew was becoming strong for low class scum, which made them a target.

Low class Saiyans should be at minimum over 1,000 and at maximum 3,000 IMO so everyone except Bardock should be above that? Bardock was said to be strong for a low class Saiyan but his crew? Give me a quote

[Kid Buu]

SSJ Bardock Vs. Vegeta/Kuririn/Gohan when they fought 1st Form Freeza.

[Pantalones]

Power-wise, SSj Bardock has to be right around 1st-form Freeza's level minimum (since he was already at 10,000 before he went to fight Freeza.) So even if you assume he didn't get another near-death boost when Freeza blasted him, he's still got just as much an edge over Vegeta and company as Freeza did, he just can't transform again to power up more. So Vegeta is pretty much useless, Gohan could probably hurt him if he gets rage-boosted but otherwise is even more useless than Vegeta, and Krillin could probably kill him with a Kienzan but he'd have to have a lot of luck to actually hit him dead-on with it, and aside from that (or blinding him with a Solar Flare) would also be useless against somebody at that level.

Unfortunately for Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan... Bardock probably wasn't at the bare-minimum 10,000 or so when he went Super Saiyan... though there's no way of knowing where he actually ended up. He could be only 33% stronger (going by Vegeta's 18,000 ---> 24,000 boost) which would put him at 666,666 in Super Saiyan, a power level which would freak out both Vegeta and religious nuts. He could be 2.5x or 3x stronger (going by some of the other near-death boosts we see), which would mean he'd be over a million in Super Saiyan. Worst case scenario (for Vegeta and company), he could've followed in his son's footsteps and gotten an absurd 33x near-death boost, which would put him at sixteen million when he went Super Saiyan (and 330,000 in base, which would still probably be a bit too much for them to handle without ganging up on him and getting lucky... unless you think Vegeta was actually close to Freeza's 530,000 during their little arm-wrestling match, rather than the official 250,000 level for him.)

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Power-wise, SSj Bardock has to be right around 1st-form Freeza's level minimum (since he was already at 10,000 before he went to fight Freeza.) So even if you assume he didn't get another near-death boost when Freeza blasted him, he's still got just as much an edge over Vegeta and company as Freeza did, he just can't transform again to power up more. So Vegeta is pretty much useless, Gohan could probably hurt him if he gets rage-boosted but otherwise is even more useless than Vegeta, and Krillin could probably kill him with a Kienzan but he'd have to have a lot of luck to actually hit him dead-on with it, and aside from that (or blinding him with a Solar Flare) would also be useless against somebody at that level.

Unfortunately for Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan... Bardock probably wasn't at the bare-minimum 10,000 or so when he went Super Saiyan... though there's no way of knowing where he actually ended up. He could be only 33% stronger (going by Vegeta's 18,000 ---> 24,000 boost) which would put him at 666,666 in Super Saiyan, a power level which would freak out both Vegeta and religious nuts. He could be 2.5x or 3x stronger (going by some of the other near-death boosts we see), which would mean he'd be over a million in Super Saiyan. Worst case scenario (for Vegeta and company), he could've followed in his son's footsteps and gotten an absurd 33x near-death boost, which would put him at sixteen million when he went Super Saiyan (and 330,000 in base, which would still probably be a bit too much for them to handle without ganging up on him and getting lucky... unless you think Vegeta was actually close to Freeza's 530,000 during their little arm-wrestling match, rather than the official 250,000 level for him.)

We have to assume that Bardock got a near-death power-up, since to transform into a Super Saiyan, a requirement is to have power beyond the standard Saiyan level, which is between 30.000 & 90.000 (Goku was beyond that level at 90.000, but Vegeta still wasn't beyond that level at 30.000).