Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[ArchedThunder]

I wonder whose style this is that shows up in all of Ono's episodes;
[spoiler][/spoiler]
I'm gussing it's Sawaki.

He said "we": https://twitter.com/benRG400/status/871218292165296128

Fair enough, interesting that they haven't already started on their next episode.

[Psykomatik]

Yeah! I think with what are saiying Toshio and Ono, we could know how many times are they taking for an episode of Super.
Some times ago, Toshio said he was scripting "the funniest fight". Perhaps he's talking about tommorow's episode? If so, he began writing on it back on April, 28th (https://twitter.com/toshio916/status/857898520509947904)
So the production time for next episode (if he's talking about this one) is of 7 weeks, from scripting to directing, animating etc.

Toshio already said that the script is taking 2 to 3 weeks on Super. So, if he's talking about episode 94, they had 4 to 5 weeks to storyboard and animate things. How's that? Is that OK?

[ArchedThunder]

Yeah! I think with what are saiying Toshio and Ono, we could know how many times are they taking for an episode of Super.
Some times ago, Toshio said he was scripting "the funniest fight". Perhaps he's talking about tommorow's episode? If so, he began writing on it back on April, 28th (https://twitter.com/toshio916/status/857898520509947904)
So the production time for next episode (if he's talking about this one) is of 7 weeks, from scripting to directing, animating etc.

Toshio already said that the script is taking 2 to 3 weeks on Super. So, if he's talking about episode 94, they had 4 to 5 weeks to storyboard and animate things. How's that? Is that OK?

I really doubt he was talking about tomorrow's episode, the episode in question is probably not going to air until July at the earliest. 4-5 weeks from script finish to air would be absolutely abysmal, there's no way Super's schedule is THAT bad, at least not at this point. I'm pretty sure Ono works on other shows as well, so it's probably just a case of them focusing on finishing up an episode of a different show before starting their next Super episode.

Toshio also said not long after his tweet talking about a funny fight that he had already scripted a lot of fights for the tournament, so I'm guessing the "funniest fight" he was talking about will come in August or September.

[Psykomatik]

So you do think he's not talking about tommorow's episode? I asked him just in case on Twitter, but perhaps he's talking about one fight from the ToP, you may be right!

[ArchedThunder]

So you do think he's not talking about tommorow's episode? I asked him just in case on Twitter, but perhaps he's talking about one fight from the ToP, you may be right!

Like at said, he also said in May that he had already written a lot of fights for the tournament, so the episode he was writing back then is definitely a ways off.

[Psykomatik]

So you do think he's not talking about tommorow's episode? I asked him just in case on Twitter, but perhaps he's talking about one fight from the ToP, you may be right!

Like at said, he also said in May that he had already written a lot of fights for the tournament, so the episode he was writing back then is definitely a ways off.

Forgot about that! Yeah, so he's probably talking about a fight from ToP.
I really wonder how many time they have from script to air.

[ArchedThunder]

Forgot about that! Yeah, so he's probably talking about a fight from ToP.
I really wonder how many time they have from script to air.

The fact that they are working with normal 3-4 week deadlines would seem to imply that they are at least not too far off from normal timing. I'm sure they're still not there yet, but knowing that the scripts themselves are no longer rushed is very good news. If they were still far off I'm sure the scripts wouldn't be given a full 3-4 weeks.

[SansrivaaL]

Manabe's huge mouths are needed! his work this ep was awesome, I'm normally not a fan of weird art despite the good animation but Manabe's was great.

[Mazingerdestro]

The huge mouths remind me movie 2. Goku getting electrocuted and yelling. Definitely, a trait underutilized after the Maeda era

[ArchedThunder]

Yeah, I love the big mouths, they look great.
I have a friend that was complaining about them, I was so confused by him.

[Mazingerdestro]

It's a stylistic trait that is more of a db leftover than dbz. You can't blame people for not appreciating.
I found it amazingly fitting and hope they will use it again.

Maybe this arc will finally be the one that will help the show gain it's own identity.

[ArchedThunder]

I'm pretty sure Ono is saying something about the state of production here, anyone care to translate?
https://twitter.com/benRG400/status/871225928998727680

[JazzMazz]

Manabe's exaggerated character art is a real treat and even makes simple dialogue scenes look interesting. To me, it's almost Tate-esque.
[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Ajay]

Rewatching the preview today, I may have jumped the gun saying it wasn't Karasawa. If it does turn out to be him, I'm never second guessing myself again. I already made that mistake this week where I said it would be Manabe, then went back on myself.

The thing that was throwing me off was the earlobes and ear shape on Roshi, and while the latter is still off in my eyes, the former was something that popped up in #71 a lot, and I simply forgot about it.

What changed my mind today was looking at the shading. Also in #71, we saw this two-tone cheek shading that's not very common outside of Karasawa -

[spoiler]
[/spoiler]

You can spot it in the NEP for the next episode, so perhaps it is him.

[ArchedThunder]

Rewatching the preview today, I may have jumped the gun saying it wasn't Karasawa. If it does turn out to be him, I'm never second guessing myself again. I already made that mistake this week where I said it would be Manabe, then went back on myself.

The thing that was throwing me off was the earlobes and ear shape on Roshi, and while the latter is still off in my eyes, the former was something that popped up in #71 a lot, and I simply forgot about it.

What changed my mind today was looking at the shading. Also in #71, we saw this two-tone cheek shading that's not very common outside of Karasawa -

[spoiler]
[/spoiler]

You can spot it in the NEP for the next episode, so perhaps it is him.

The thing that really makes me think it's him is Krillin's face.
The shading in general in the NEP looks really polished though, lots of depth.

[emperior]

Does anybody know who designed these?



Are them from Toriyama or Toyotaro?

[ArchedThunder]

Does anybody know who designed these?



Are them from Toriyama or Toyotaro?

The original designs? We don't know, but that particular art for Jiren is Yamamuro's design, surprisingly enough.
Considering Jiren seems to be the main enemy, I think he's probably a Toriyama design, but that's just an assumption.

[precita]

Rewatched the ep a second time, I literally don't get why so many people say, "This was a horribly animated episode" or "It looked awful."

I mean goddamn, I didn't notice anything bad or distracting in the ep at all, besides some brief inbetween frames that you literally only see on screen for 1-2 seconds. I honestly don't get it. Super really did used to look like crap during the first 30 episodes or so, this looked nothing like that.

[emperior]

Does anybody know who designed these?



Are them from Toriyama or Toyotaro?

The original designs? We don't know, but that particular art for Jiren is Yamamuro's design, surprisingly enough.
Considering Jiren seems to be the main enemy, I think he's probably a Toriyama design, but that's just an assumption.

And what about Kale? Is that particular art Yamamuro's design?

[Mazingerdestro]

Does anybody know who designed these?



Are them from Toriyama or Toyotaro?

The original designs? We don't know, but that particular art for Jiren is Yamamuro's design, surprisingly enough.
Considering Jiren seems to be the main enemy, I think he's probably a Toriyama design, but that's just an assumption.

And what about Kale? Is that particular art Yamamuro's design?

To be honest, excluding the arm muscles on Jiren, nothing looks Yamamuro to me. None of them has the glows everyone hates and their bodies are too skinny.
Kale could easily be a direct Toriyama model since she has all the skinny body traits that Toriyama adds to his characters since Jaco. Rebrianne also lacks detail.
Could it he that all of them are Toyotaro's ?