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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draken » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:22 am

Friezacooler wrote:Hirudegarn > Birusu
Are you trying to make a versus battle or just making a pointless and random post?

Goku > Hirudegarn

Beers > Goku

Goku > Hirudegarn > Beers???

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Friezacooler wrote:Hirudegarn > Birusu
Are you trying to make a versus battle or just making a pointless and random post?

Goku > Hirudegarn

Beers > Goku

Goku > Hirudegarn > Beers???
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:00 am

There are arguable valid reasons that make the statement we made above discussable, which versus threads are for right so our point stands till someone can disprove it with a 100% certainty.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draken » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:16 am

Friezacooler wrote:There are arguable valid reasons that make the statement we made above discussable, which versus threads are for right so our point stands till someone can disprove it with a 100% certainty.
Goku SSJ3 beat Hirudegarn.

Beers stomped SSJ3 with much less than 70% of his full power.

Hirudegarn beats Beers???

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:23 am

Goku used a technique against Hirudegarn that he never used against Beers.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:31 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Goku used a technique against Hirudegarn that he never used against Beers.
Well said, feat wise Hirudegarn did as impressive or more impressive by one shooting ssj3 gotenks and Mystic Gohan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draken » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:34 am

Friezacooler wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Goku used a technique against Hirudegarn that he never used against Beers.
Well said, feat wise Hirudegarn did as impressive or more impressive by one shooting ssj3 gotenks and Mystic Gohan.
Beer's literally spanked Gotenks' ass. He spanked his ass. He wasn't even trying.
Beers didn't even need to hit Mystic Gohan. He tossed him into a hill and there was no visible hard impact. He also did the cartoon-ey head slam.

And feat wise Beers beat SSJ3 Goku. Feat wise Hirudegarn LOST to Goku.

So Hirudegarn > Beers > Goku > Hirudegarn > Beers???

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:37 am

Draken wrote:
Friezacooler wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Goku used a technique against Hirudegarn that he never used against Beers.
Well said, feat wise Hirudegarn did as impressive or more impressive by one shooting ssj3 gotenks and Mystic Gohan.
Beer's literally spanked Gotenks' ass. He spanked his ass. He wasn't even trying.
Beers didn't even need to hit Mystic Gohan. He tossed him into a hill and there was no visible hard impact. He also did the cartoon-ey head slam.

And feat wise Beers beat SSJ3 Goku. Feat wise Hirudegarn LOST to Goku.

So Hirudegarn > Beers > Goku > Hirudegarn > Beers???
Spanked SS Gotenks. Hirudegarn one-shotted a version of Gotenks eight times stronger than that.

He smashed his face into Buu and then kicked him. Hirudegarn just lightly smacked him once with his tail.

Again, that's just because Goku used the Dragon Fist on Hirudegarn and not Beers.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:38 am

Draken wrote:
Friezacooler wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Goku used a technique against Hirudegarn that he never used against Beers.
Well said, feat wise Hirudegarn did as impressive or more impressive by one shooting ssj3 gotenks and Mystic Gohan.
Beer's literally spanked Gotenks' ass. He spanked his ass. He wasn't even trying.
Beers didn't even need to hit Mystic Gohan. He tossed him into a hill and there was no visible hard impact. He also did the cartoon-ey head slam.

And feat wise Beers beat SSJ3 Goku. Feat wise Hirudegarn LOST to Goku.

So Hirudegarn > Beers > Goku > Hirudegarn > Beers???

Birusu never spanked a SSJ3 gotenks.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draken » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:40 am

Friezacooler wrote:

Birusu never spanked a SSJ3 gotenks.
SSJ3 Gotenks < Mystic Gohan.

Beers > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks

SSJ3 Goku > Hirudegarn

Beers > SSJ3 Goku

SSJ3 Goku < SSJ3 Gotenks < Mystic Gohan

SSJ3 Gotenks > Beers > Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku > Hirudegarn > Beers/Mystic Gohan/SSJ3 Gotenks??????????

What's the point you're trying to make again?
Hirudegarn just lightly smacked him once with his tail.
I dunno about you but that didn't look like a light smack once. He wrapped Gohan in his tail, squeezed him, then threw him into a building. The building was cracked upon impact.

Gohan landed almost lightly on that hill... there was no impact, no dust, no dirt flying. A few strands of grass was thrown into the air I guess?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:53 am

SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan, in both BOG and Wrath of the dragon.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draken » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:56 am

Friezacooler wrote:SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan, in both BOG and Wrath of the dragon.
How so? SSJ3 Goku lost to Beers without even touching him. In BoG, you notice that Beers flicked his head backward as Gohan flew up to him, indicating that Beers noticed Gohan coming. Yet Gohan was still able to grab hold of Beers.

In M13, Goku used a heavily amped special attack to defeat Hirudegarn. In GT, SSJ4 Goku was around 10x weaker than Omega. His Dragon Fist 1 shot Omega. That's a pretty fucking big amp.

And I'm still not sure where you're getting Hirudegarn > Beers.

Beers beat SSJ3. Hirudegarn did not.

Beers beat SSG. HIrudegarn certainly did not.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:02 am

I dunno about you but that didn't look like a light smack once. He wrapped Gohan in his tail, squeezed him, then threw him into a building. The building was cracked upon impact.

Gohan landed almost lightly on that hill... there was no impact, no dust, no dirt flying. A few strands of grass was thrown into the air I guess?
He didn't even hit him? That makes it so much worse. Hirudegarn easily one-shotted Gohan by just throwing him. That's actually more impressive than anything Beers managed. Heck, basic physics determine that that shouldn't even have worked...
Beers beat SSJ3. Hirudegarn did not.

Beers beat SSG. HIrudegarn certainly did not.
Again, that doesn't actually matter, since Goku didn't use his heavily amped attack against Beers (he may not have even had it).
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:04 am

Goku landed punches and kept up with Bills much longer than Gohan's 2 seconds of fame.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draken » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:06 am

Uh what? Goku never even touched Beers. Except when Beers hit him I guess that counts :D. Or the time Beers stood absolutely still and allows Goku to punch him, only to easily grab his fist without looking. Unless you're talking about SSG in which case no shit.

Also if you're going by feats Frieza solos the entire Z-cast :lol:
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:09 am

Draken wrote:Uh what? Goku never even touched Beers. Unless you're talking about SSG in which case no shit.

Also if you're going by feats Freeza solos the entire Z-cast :lol:
Pure Buu's planet buster was actually calculated at 50 times a Jupiter buster, which is far more power than Freeza displayed in the anime or manga, and in the anime, he destroyed several stars (or at least he was heavily implied to; the sequence depicts the galaxy full of lights that disappear as Pure Buu rampages). Anime Buuhan could also destroy the universe.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draken » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:11 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Draken wrote:Uh what? Goku never even touched Beers. Unless you're talking about SSG in which case no shit.

Also if you're going by feats Freeza solos the entire Z-cast :lol:
Pure Buu's planet buster was actually calculated at 50 times a Jupiter buster, which is far more power than Freeza displayed in the anime or manga, and in the anime, he destroyed several stars (or at least he was heavily implied to; the sequence depicts the galaxy full of lights that disappear as Pure Buu rampages). Anime Buuhan could also destroy the universe.
Yea but those are villains not the Z-cast. Sorry by that I meant like the actual main protagonists.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:20 am

Oh. Well in that case, Vegeta blew up a planet with his finger in filler, just like Freeza did. Gohan blew up the Makyo planet. Goku blew up a planet in GT. SS2 Vegeta and Goku caused a supernova/caused several supernovas/created ki blasts on par with supernovas according to the DBO timeline. We never actually saw Freeza bust a planet under his own power in the manga (we're told, but we don't explicitly SEE the feat).
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Draken » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:30 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Oh. Well in that case, Vegeta blew up a planet with his finger in filler, just like Freeza did. Gohan blew up the Makyo planet. Goku blew up a planet in GT. SS2 Vegeta and Goku caused a supernova/caused several supernovas/created ki blasts on par with supernovas according to the DBO timeline. We never actually saw Freeza bust a planet under his own power in the manga (we're told, but we don't explicitly SEE the feat).
Don't remember gohans feat, third and fourth I said Z so Gt/Dbo is out, and attacking the core still did blow up the planet which is better than we've ever seen. Filler ish filler.

And I'm still not sure how Hirudegarn > Beers, which is the main issue I'd like to be enlightened upon.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:03 am

There's nothing saying Hirudegarn > Beers. Excepting a V-Jump comment that was later proven false, there's also nothing saying Beers > Hirudegarn.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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