"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[zamasu121]

Vegeta powering up from the ROSAT is here so that really, really blows. On the flip side, looks like there's no SSIkari in the manga!

The manga also have mai being unharmed from a head on attack from ssr black.

[ekrolo2]

Vegeta powering up from the ROSAT is here so that really, really blows. On the flip side, looks like there's no SSIkari in the manga!

Don't be surprised if Future Trunks gets a Zenkai from getting clobbered by SSJR Goku Black and some shenanigans happen in the next chapter lead to him getting Super Saiyan Ikari/Rage/Whatever-the-fuck.

I'll take the Zenkai over the anime's nothing.

[RehBeh]

she is unharmed, there are more leaks then what you saw.

Because she's up doesn't mean she's unharmed. We have to wait for full realise to be sure.

Vegeta powering up from the ROSAT is here so that really, really blows. On the flip side, looks like there's no SSIkari in the manga!

Don't be surprised if Future Trunks gets a Zenkai from getting clobbered by SSJR Goku Black and some shenanigans happen in the next chapter lead to him getting Super Saiyan Ikari/Rage/Whatever-the-fuck.

I'll take the Zenkai over the anime's nothing.

I second this.

[ekrolo2]

Okay, there is one way the manga could un-bullshit Vegeta's power up: if he trains with Whis for six months inside the ROSAT.

[TheMikado]

Mr Satan is a gag character, mai is not(well at least not in super).

So uh a 60 year old girl looks like a young woman, doesn't that scream gag character,oh and goku black ki force Mai,he did not attack Mai head on, but the question is, how trunks is surviving the brutal beatdown from Goku black

trunks is passable, although still kind of bs, but mai surviving black attack when he is right next to her is probably the biggest bs i have ever seen in dragon ball super.

Seriously guys? He used that ki push. He didnt even really touch her. Its like getting hit with a really strong wind. Its probably not going to kill her at all if she's even hurt. The Mai thing is kind of really reaching. When have we ever seen a ki push alone injure a character?

[RehBeh]

Seriously guys? He used that ki push. He didnt even really touch her. Its like getting hit with a really strong wind. Its probably not going to kill her at all if she's even hurt. The Mai thing is kind of really reaching. When have we ever seen a ki push alone injure a character?

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[zamasu121]

So uh a 60 year old girl looks like a young woman, doesn't that scream gag character,oh and goku black ki force Mai,he did not attack Mai head on, but the question is, how trunks is surviving the brutal beatdown from Goku black

trunks is passable, although still kind of bs, but mai surviving black attack when he is right next to her is probably the biggest bs i have ever seen in dragon ball super.

Seriously guys? He used that ki push. He didnt even really touch her. Its like getting hit with a really strong wind. Its probably not going to kill her at all if she's even hurt. The Mai thing is kind of really reaching. When have we ever seen a ki push alone injure a character?

That ki push created a big ass crater.

[mfwlegend3]

That ki push created a big ass crater.

No, it didn't. The crater was made from Black bashing Trunks' head into the ground repeatedly. Look again.

[Lord Beerus]

It's not about GT, it's about a character surviving a punch from a character miles stronger than him. Black didn't punch her, he simply pushed her back.

It still should have heavily injured her at the very least.

The thing that worries me most is that Vegeta training in the ROSAT is going to lead up to him beating Goku Black again. The problem with that is that... it won't mean anything. We've already seen Vegeta kick Goku Black's ass. So the catharsis factor of Vegeta returning much stronger and getting the upper hand against Goku Black again won't be there, much like how it was in the anime.I hope that Toyotaro take the unique route as has Vegeta just lose again to Black. But if the event will play out just like in the anime, then honestly I can't say that I care for the prospect of Vegeta beating up Goku Black again.

Other than that, I'm liking what I'm seeing in this chapter so far. Goku Black savagely beating up Future Trunks was great to watch... even though Black should have just killed him on the spot. I do have to wonder though, how did Kaioshin manage to bail out Future Trunks before Goku Black was seemingly about to kill him? Of course, if that's even the case to begin with. Because that happening make no sense as Kaioshin in dead in Future Trunks' timeline, and if it's Present Kaioshin, then how the hell was he able to time travel to Future Trunks timeline? Is this any ability that Kaioshin have? Because if so, I'm sorry, but I gotta call shenanigans on that bullshit. If Kaioshin are able to time travel then why the hell do the Time Rings even exist?

Present Kaioshin already travelled in time to Trunks future using a Time Ring just before exposing Present Zamasu's plans. And he said he would do it again to tell Goku and Vegeta about the second Zamasu.

I will never understand why people try to find plotholes without remembering/reading the rest of the chapters. Like seriously...

Completely agree on the Vegeta thing trough. Not only would it be bullshit power levels again just like in the anime, but also it would lack the plot-weight (I'm sorry, I don't know how to express this in English) that it had there, because we have already see the whole «Saiyan Cells» speech.

Mai surviving attacks from Black is not more bullshit that what happened in the anime when he fired a direct Ki blast to her. Then again, at this point neither Toriyama or any of the medias really cares about power consistency and logic...which is a same.

I really don't see the point of this chapter trough if it ends with Goku using the Mafuba.Just like I didn't see the point of Trunks dealing with both Zamasus and being rescuted by Yajirobe offscreen in the anime. I mean, Goku and Vegeta have a fucking time machine. Couldn't they just return to the point before they left instead of Trunks having to face Black and wait for them? Time in both timelines shouldn't flow at the same time if the time paradox (which is bullshit anyway, but...) is true. This arc has way more potential than any of the both mediums (and Toriyama itself) used. But oh well...

I've amended my previous comment about Kaioshin time-travelling. But Vegeta training in the ROSAT and closing the gap on the Black would be ridiculous, just as it was in the anime, because the gap in strength between SSJR and SSJB is fucking huge. I mean, it's even bigger than what we see in the anime. SSJ Goku Black was able to kick Vegeta's ass after one Zenkai boost; and then on top of that he achieves Super Saiyan Rose. There's no way in hell Vegeta should be able to catch up after a session in the ROSAT. Unless he suddenly attained a new form. Or he and Goku... fuse. Oh my God. I so see Vegetto or Gogeta happening now.

[The gr]

trunks is passable, although still kind of bs, but mai surviving black attack when he is right next to her is probably the biggest bs i have ever seen in dragon ball super.

Seriously guys? He used that ki push. He didnt even really touch her. Its like getting hit with a really strong wind. Its probably not going to kill her at all if she's even hurt. The Mai thing is kind of really reaching. When have we ever seen a ki push alone injure a character?

That ki push created a big ass crater.

No that crater was created when goku black smashed trunks [spoiler][/spoiler] [spoiler][/spoiler]so stop spreading misinformation

[Lord Beerus]

Okay, there is one way the manga could un-bullshit Vegeta's power up: if he trains with Whis for six months inside the ROSAT.

I don't think Whis would give a shit and Vegeta wouldn't even bother asking.

[mfwlegend3]

I so see Vegetto or Gogeta happening now.

People still believe in Gogeta? I always figured that since Blue would consume so much of the fusion dance's time limit that Gogeta wouldn't even last minutes, especially considering he's a 30 minute fusion.

[zamasu121]

Seriously guys? He used that ki push. He didnt even really touch her. Its like getting hit with a really strong wind. Its probably not going to kill her at all if she's even hurt. The Mai thing is kind of really reaching. When have we ever seen a ki push alone injure a character?

That ki push created a big ass crater.

No that crater was created when goku black smashed trunks so stop spreading misinformation

just looked again and you are right, my bad, though i still think its bullshit either way.

[ekrolo2]

Okay, there is one way the manga could un-bullshit Vegeta's power up: if he trains with Whis for six months inside the ROSAT.

I don't think Whis would give a shit and Vegeta wouldn't even bother asking.

Why am I the only guy who remembers that bribing with food is the reason Whis trains them at all?

[RehBeh]

I've amended my previous comment about Kaioshin time-travelling. But Vegeta training in the ROSAT and closing the gap on the Black would be ridiculous, just as it was in the anime, because the gap in strength between SSJR and SSJB is fucking huge. I mean, it's even bigger than what we see in the anime. SSJ Goku Black was able to kick Vegeta's ass after one Zenkai boost; and the on top of that he achieves Super Saiyan Rose. There's no way in hell Vegeta should be able to catch up after a session in the ROSAT. Unless he suddenly attained a new form. Or he and Goku... fuse. Oh my God. I so see Vegetto or Gogeta happening now.

Keep in mind that powerscale in Super is pretty much dead. The characters are strong as the plot wants them to be. Even if that makes little to no sense at all.

[The gr]

That ki push created a big ass crater.

No that crater was created when goku black smashed trunks so stop spreading misinformation

just looked again and you are right, my bad, though i still think its bullshit either way.

Apology accepted, how come no one is questioning about trunks surviving Goku black brutal attacks but I'll wait for the full chapter

[zamasu121]

No that crater was created when goku black smashed trunks so stop spreading misinformation

just looked again and you are right, my bad, though i still think its bullshit either way.

Apology accepted, how come no one is questioning about trunks surviving Goku black brutal attacks but I'll wait for the full chapter

Trunks attained the legendary super saiyan plot, so now he can take harsher beating than ssb vegeta and survive.

[The gr]

just looked again and you are right, my bad, though i still think its bullshit either way.

Apology accepted, how come no one is questioning about trunks surviving Goku black brutal attacks but I'll wait for the full chapter

Trunks attained the legendary super saiyan plot, so now he can take harsher beating than ssb vegeta and survive.

I knew it plot ki was part of toriyama manuscript

[zamasu121]

Apology accepted, how come no one is questioning about trunks surviving Goku black brutal attacks but I'll wait for the full chapter

Trunks attained the legendary super saiyan plot, so now he can take harsher beating than ssb vegeta and survive.

I knew it plot ki was part of toriyama manuscript

Plot ki>god ki

[Totamo]

No that crater was created when goku black smashed trunks so stop spreading misinformation

just looked again and you are right, my bad, though i still think its bullshit either way.

Apology accepted, how come no one is questioning about trunks surviving Goku black brutal attacks but I'll wait for the full chapter

I mean kid buu beat the living hell out of vegeta and that thing was fighting on par with ssj3 goku plus black is a sadist who loves playing with his opponents.